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Nice job man, that must have taken a lot of time to research and edit. Much appreciated

First time I felt excitement about EE in years, looking forward to it. So many interesting topics to cover. I myself am curious about the difficulty creep, where basic 2011 levels were deemed impossible, to the "Pro" level era, which are now no problem for a handful of players, to the insanity that is the Perpetual Frustration campaign. Fun stuff!

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This seems rigged

I've been away from the EE community for a long time, and of course nothing has changed. I don't think the word "community" applies here anymore. A community is a positive term, but all of this is nothing but a toxic bubble. No-one seems to understand this is nothing like real life, while, sadly, it does deal with real people with real feelings.None of this is normal. The fact that a lot of you still use the nomenclature of "staff" and especially, "owner", just shows how much of a bubble this is. None of this is how an actual business is run.

Why are you all still here? These "discussions" aren't normal. In the real world you talk to someone in person, and settle matters privately. You both try to work things out and strive to get the best out of each other. All of this is just public mud-throwing under the guise of "transparency".

This isn't normal. A real business doesn't withhold information from their colleagues because of some petty personal bs.

So, again, why are you all still here? Even the phase where people stay because a train wreck can be enjoyable to watch has been stretched to the point of near-singularity. Everyone knows this toxicity is beyond the point of repair.

It's time to pull the plug.

Oh this is the thread that causes ppl to keep PMing me. Can any mod connect it to someone who can actually do things?

But not everyone's opinion is based on the same skill. The initial basic idea behind the difficulties (which I set up back in the days when we released campaigns) was to divide levels into 7 categories, starting with what was then arguably the hardest level, working down to the easiest levels, sub-dividing along the way.

Now, if you can actually beat the hardest levels, aka the entire Fractured Fingers campaign, having the hardest level of the hardest campaign means that's extreme, because it's an extreme challenge for the best players. This, ignoring the fact that some people have become even more amazingly skilled at this game that they can still breeze through that campaign.
Then, with the easiest levels, someone new to the game can beat the Basic campaigns with little effort. This was the foundation for the framework of the difficulties: Extreme would be what the most highly-skilled subset of players would find extreme, Basic would be no problem to beat for the most lowly-skilled subset of players.

If you take the middle section, let's say a Hard campaign, having a new or low-skilled player attempt a Hard level, let's say EX Crew Odyssey, for them that's an extreme challenge, so according to them that level should be in the Extreme category. Where does that leave the actual current Extreme campaigns? Uber Power Master Omfg Extreme? Nope, still extreme, because the framework was set up that way.
So, having people with vastly different skill levels vote won't work, because it's not based on a similar experience. That's why, especially in the beginning, highly-skilled players needed to form their opinions on campaign level difficulties, because then Extreme was actually Extreme. With the foundation having been lain, it is now much easier for lesser-skilled players to estimate whereabouts the difficulty really lies, because they can compare it to the current framework. So what might be an extreme challenge for one player might be just medium for someone else.

Master1 and Kirby are (I believe, I'm not around much) currently doing campaigns, and they are both highly-skilled players, so their reach is higher and therefore their estimation of difficulty is based on much more experience than for others. They might be getting biased about difficulty because they could be at the point where Extreme isn't an extreme challenge to them anymore, but that's something else.

That said, Anatoly and other players I've heard complain about this before, as far as I'm aware you're not nearly in the range of being able to beat the Extreme campaigns and therefore your experience is relatively lacking to form good judgement regarding campaign level difficulty. As far as I've seen, I think M1, Kirby, and Rava have been doing excellent work with the difficulty, with a few disagreements from my side as well, but hey, that's also just my opinion.

He spent EE money on buying a new gaming pc for himself and bought games for his girlfriend and lied about it. Some more stuff too

Not Enough Skeletons was built in ~8 hours time, without breaks, indeed while streaming. Obviously that doesn't produce the best results, especially the lack of testing while it has some puzzle elements

There's gotta be better levels out there.

Oh well

The problem is that there is a very limited amount of good extreme levels, let alone find enough with an overarching theme

I heard she also cut in line at Walmart in 2006, which is totally relevant

JFC do you people have nothing better to do than spending hours on this witch hunt? It's been going on for 6 pages. Ironically it's the same people that complain about EE having a toxic community. Congrats guys, you're part of the problem!

pls even blind people would hit the space bar
i dont believe ur rly blind