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#576 2019-09-16 15:57:56

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

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The black color is always transfered to empty block. It was a thing I added because else it would fill the world with black blocks. But sure I can make an option for that.

Except that if the image's background is another color then it would fill with that color while black pixels get their blocks removed, which is messy. And even if the user selects an image with a black background in a world with a non-black background, they wouldn't want all black pixels having their blocks blindly removed, they would rather preserve all pixels of the image. Keep in mind, preserving black blocks doesn't fill "the world", it only affects the image itself. I always assumed it is bad coding that caused black pixels to be always removed blocks. The nearest color block selection should treat the removed block (ID 0) as the background color, not black. This way if an image with a white background gets added into a white background world then the white pixels get to be removed blocks which doesn't affect the minimap itself as the background is white, and black pixels don't get distorted.


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#577 2019-09-16 21:51:05

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

If you don't like it, feel free to create a new tool yourself.
Personally, I think it's largely a waste of time to continue developing a tool for a game that approximately 12 people play at any given time.


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#578 2019-09-17 11:13:00

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:
capasha wrote:

The black color is always transfered to empty block. It was a thing I added because else it would fill the world with black blocks. But sure I can make an option for that.

Except that if the image's background is another color then it would fill with that color while black pixels get their blocks removed, which is messy. And even if the user selects an image with a black background in a world with a non-black background, they wouldn't want all black pixels having their blocks blindly removed, they would rather preserve all pixels of the image. Keep in mind, preserving black blocks doesn't fill "the world", it only affects the image itself. I always assumed it is bad coding that caused black pixels to be always removed blocks. The nearest color block selection should treat the removed block (ID 0) as the background color, not black. This way if an image with a white background gets added into a white background world then the white pixels get to be removed blocks which doesn't affect the minimap itself as the background is white, and black pixels don't get distorted.

If you are so unhappy about this tool with. Move to: Tiken's EEPainter or why not Plugit by Lukem.
Or continue on the tool self, like I wrote in the other post. Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

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#579 2019-09-17 12:27:27

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

capasha wrote:

Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

The purpose of software development is not to make people "happy", not at all.


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#580 2019-09-19 23:48:48

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:
capasha wrote:

Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

The purpose of software development is not to make people "happy", not at all.

Then you don't know anything about software developing.

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#581 2019-09-20 00:03:13

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:
capasha wrote:

Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

The purpose of software development is not to make people "happy", not at all.

The purpose is to satisfy the requirements and tasks put forward by the client
So yes, it is to make people, aka the users/clients happy


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#582 2019-09-20 05:08:01

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

TaskManager wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:
capasha wrote:

Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

The purpose of software development is not to make people "happy", not at all.

The purpose is to satisfy the requirements and tasks put forward by the client
So yes, it is to make people, aka the users/clients happy

If everyone were "happy" everyone would be long dead of depression already.


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#583 2019-09-20 09:13:41

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:
capasha wrote:

Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

The purpose of software development is not to make people "happy", not at all.

The purpose is to satisfy the requirements and tasks put forward by the client
So yes, it is to make people, aka the users/clients happy

If everyone were "happy" everyone would be long dead of depression already.

You just couldn't think of a more edgy reply, could you?


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#584 2019-09-20 17:06:45

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

The purpose of software development is to give your clients depression.

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#585 2019-09-20 17:48:15

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PiotrGrochowski wrote:
capasha wrote:

Whatever I do, you are never happy. So yeah I don't feel to do much more.

The purpose of software development is not to make people "happy", not at all.


I continue on EEditor because I thought people would be "happy". We talk about some years ago, when I worked hard on updating this tool.
When robotkoer joined he helped me with design and spelling issues, and then he got a job and I have nearly worked alone.
I don't know how many days I have put my free time on this tool, to update it to newest version of EE. I have a job too but most of my free time goes to EEditor.
I know that there are some issues in EEditor that I can't fix. Which mean I need to recode EEditor to get it working. I don't feel to recode it because, just look in lobby in EE. Max 10 people what I can see.

I'm trying to fix EEditor to work like you requested, but it's hard when the code of EEditor is crap because of my earlier noob coding ways.
And also when there isn't enough of people that play EE anymore.

If you continue with your madness I will stop the coding of the latest update of EEditor and close this thread and quit this ****.

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#586 2019-09-20 18:19:58

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

Who the hell even use executable which is mainly for Windows OS for anything other than that. Not only that but every smart person know to use Windows 10 because they're the most latest up to date, I don't care about security or privacy (cough) but if it's reliable then so be it. EEditor work really fine for me on my windows 10 PC and I don't even have any problem at all. Also you were complaining about high contrast, like who in their sane mind would use that mode? It's normally for people that have visual impairment

Conclusion, Capasha is just doing fine with his eeditor and there isn't any problem, you're the only one that has loads of problem that doesn't even work for this type anyways.


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#587 2019-09-21 07:36:09, last edited by Tomahawk (2019-09-21 12:02:42)

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

Growler wrote:

Also you were complaining about high contrast, like who in their sane mind would use that mode? It's normally for people that have visual impairment

Are you seriously saying theme customization is for visual impairments? That doesn't make any sense.

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capasha wrote:

If you continue with your madness I will stop the coding of the latest update of EEditor and close this thread and quit this ****.

Sounds much better than making up excuses as to why deleting black pixels makes people "happy".


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#588 2019-09-21 11:24:41

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:

Are you seriously saying theme customization is for visual impairments? That doesn't make any sense.

I never said theme customisation is for visual impariments, only high contrast. High contrast change what you see on windows by the colour ( i assume ) and theme customisation let you change few things but it has limit as well.


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#589 2019-09-21 11:51:16, last edited by TaskManager (2019-09-21 11:54:38)

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

bruh capasha just ignore him and do whatever you like doing

piotr is arrogant and wont stop **** wherever he can even though nobody cares


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#590 2019-09-21 11:59:44

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

Growler wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:

Are you seriously saying theme customization is for visual impairments? That doesn't make any sense.

I never said theme customisation is for visual impariments, only high contrast. High contrast change what you see on windows by the colour ( i assume ) and theme customisation let you change few things but it has limit as well.

By saying that you are being disrespectful to people who customize the Microsoft Windows theme with High Contrast. High Contrast is the only official way to truly customize the Microsoft Windows theme AFAIK. After all, High Contrast is available for all people to use, it doesn't request a doctor's signature or anything.


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#591 2019-09-21 12:35:55, last edited by LukeM (2019-09-21 12:36:40)

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:
Growler

By saying that you are being disrespectful to people who customize the Microsoft Windows theme with High Contrast. High Contrast is the only official way to truly customize the Microsoft Windows theme AFAIK. After all, High Contrast is available for all people to use, it doesn't request a doctor's signature or anything.

Just so you know, Microsoft themselves say that high contrast mode is "for people with low vision", it's not something meant to be used for customisation.

There are plenty of other ways to customise Windows though, there are whole skins you can install to get it to look completely different, I believe people have even used these to make their Windows computer look almost identical to a Mac, so they're pretty powerful.

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#592 2019-09-21 12:40:59

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

LukeM wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:
Growler

By saying that you are being disrespectful to people who customize the Microsoft Windows theme with High Contrast. High Contrast is the only official way to truly customize the Microsoft Windows theme AFAIK. After all, High Contrast is available for all people to use, it doesn't request a doctor's signature or anything.

Just so you know, Microsoft themselves say that high contrast mode is "for people with low vision", it's not something meant to be used for customisation.

There are plenty of other ways to customise Windows though, there are whole skins you can install to get it to look completely different, I believe people have even used these to make their Windows computer look almost identical to a Mac, so they're pretty powerful.

This isn't a legal statement though, so for all intents and purposes it is a customization tool and anyone with Microsoft Windows can customize the theme with High Contrast. This is also off-topic to the topic as the topic is about EEditor, not Microsoft, so keep this on-topic.


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#593 2019-09-21 12:57:55

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

We're talking about high contrast which was your problem regarding to EEditor so it's still a bit on topic


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#594 2019-09-21 13:04:49

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

Growler wrote:

We're talking about high contrast which was your problem regarding to EEditor so it's still a bit on topic

It wasn't a "problem" at all it was a minor graphical issue.


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#595 2019-09-21 13:18:32

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

PiotrGrochowski wrote:

It wasn't a "problem" at all it was a minor graphical issue.

Oh my bad, so if it was a 'minor' issue then it shouldn't matter at all //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue


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#596 2019-09-21 14:07:41

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

Growler wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:

It wasn't a "problem" at all it was a minor graphical issue.

Oh my bad, so if it was a 'minor' issue then it shouldn't matter at all //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

If all software developers were thinking like this, the world will end up with lots of minor issues in every software.


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#597 2019-09-21 21:06:36

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Re: [Release] EEditor 4.1.0 - Offline Editor

Growler wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:

It wasn't a "problem" at all it was a minor graphical issue.

Oh my bad, so if it was a 'minor' issue then it shouldn't matter at all //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

It wasn't minor, just some steps up. I forgot to replace the theme with control text instead of just black color.

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