Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Minimania · 2022-09-12 02:39:37

I townlean Gikkle but I don't think Oli is even remotely as clear as him, I think it's bizarre he's on the assume list, especially after yesterday

Minimania · 2022-09-12 02:40:51

Idk, the whole thing with him flat out refusing to interact with MM rubs me the wrong way, and his post earlier today sucks

Minimania · 2022-09-12 02:47:31

Also, no, I'm not the fruit vendor

Minimania · 2022-09-12 03:14:42

Pqwerty wrote:

If I'm not the fruit vendor, and 2B isn't the fruit vendor, and Gandhi isn't the fruit vendor, and you're not the fruit vendor, and Gikkle and Oliver's slots were too afk to be the fruit vendor, does that mean BB is the fruit vendor?

Nosferatu

Minimania · 2022-09-12 12:07:22

Buzz how many games have you been in

Minimania · 2022-09-12 12:11:06

recently*

Minimania · 2022-09-12 17:02:54

Hi Im a vanilla

Minimania · 2022-09-12 17:06:02

7 people left, right?

So either we vote someone off and then tomorrow is LYLO

or we vote to skip, and then tomorrow is also LYLO... right? I think I counted this correctly. No wait, we would then be able to vote skip again.

I think maybe it wouldnt be a terrible idea to vote skip today and tomorrow, if for no other reason than to whittle our options down? I don't know I'm lost

Minimania · 2022-09-12 17:08:53

Man, I don't even know

Does someone have any insight on opportunity cost here?

We either get two tries at this, but we're unsure

or we get 1 try at this and we have to be 100% right on it, but we can be more sure

Minimania · 2022-09-12 17:09:42

wait wait wait I think we should go the lynch today lynch tomorrow route, because if we lynch today then we take away the choice from the mafia on one of the people who die

2b55b5g

Minimania · 2022-09-12 17:11:24

Oliwaz144 wrote:

Im very ill right now but i have very important information

Get well soon 🙏

Minimania · 2022-09-12 18:37:15

Technically we could still have a bus driver

Minimania · 2022-09-13 02:08:13

my bets are on Oli

Minimania · 2022-09-13 02:10:58

Gikkle I don't really know that I can trust your read on Oli. Not that I think you're scum defending him but his gameplay is super weird and pings me the wrong way

Minimania · 2022-09-13 02:15:25

I'm thinking it's Oli but I'm gonna try to look into who his teammate could be

Minimania · 2022-09-13 13:56:01

Pqwerty wrote:

BuzzerBee wrote:
scumreads
Marshmallow Marshall
for so many reasons. just today they voted to lynch Gandhi with the only reason being that Gandhi disappeared at the end of D2? which is totally unfair to Gandhi imo because they have been nothing but active and helpful and then swooped in at the last second to help hammer Shadow. Marshmallow is also going back and forth on their reads of 2b, and also is avoiding giving any kind of scumreads. i hate wishy washy players. it was the same with Shadow. our job is to lynch mafia, so scumreads are one of the most helpful things you can offer as town. if you're wrong then you're wrong but at least try to give us something. ANYWAY all this plus elijah pushing Marshmallow on D2 leads me to believe elijah might've gotten a red check on Marsh.
Oliwaz144
i don't have much to go off from their predecessor either i just need to see more before i come to a better conclusion. but jovi seemed scummy to me so that is carrying over to my opinion of oliwaz. as i mentioned before i appreciate them catching up on everything but other than their first post everything else hasn't been much of a contribution
townreads
Pqwerty
i really have no reason to not believe their miller claim. #1 on my town list for sure
2b55b5g
she helped hammer Shadow, made this very townie post, and was already sus of Marshmallow since D2. i don't have a lot of hard evidence for my townread on 2b, but i feel like it's mostly the way i interpret the tone of their posts. mostly calm, logical, and helpful. never defensive. 2b just wants to solve the game which is the most town thing you can do lol
Minimania
mini was immediately skeptical of shadow's claim, was townread by elijah HARD which leads me to believe if elijah didnt get a red check on Marshmallow n1, he definitely got a green check on mini n1, and mini has been skeptical of Marsh since D2
Grilyon2
honestly i thought grilyon died already lmao i just realized they're still alive. i don't see their inactivity as scummy at all though. i mean just take a look at their most recent post from D2. they hit the nail on the head with all of their reads and ultimately ended up voting for Shadow. i hope Grilyon comes back and gives us more insight on D3.
Nuclear Gandhi
no longer my top townread, but definitely still a townread. i talked about this a bit in my read for Marshmallow, but Gandhi has been nothing but helpful and helped hammer Shadow. this last post where they said they didn't feel like catching up was weird but the still voted correctly regardless so i can forgive it. hoping to see more from them today tho
neutral
Gikkle
i townread gikkle until their weird claim on D2. i do believe their explanation for the claim though but now that i see Gikkle is a very brilliant player, i wouldn't put it past them to do some kind of meta reverse psychology thing lol. this is all just conspiracy tho i definitely lean town for Gikkle but i wouldn't be surprised if they ended up winning the game as mafia and baffled us all
I just realized BB thought MM was the check and Mini was the check at the same time.

BB's post does not indicate that he thought MM was redchecked and I was greenchecked at the same time. The way it's worded makes it clear that he thinks first and foremost that MM was redchecked, and that if he wasn't, then I was definitely greenchecked

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:00:52

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Alright I'm cool with this plan, if not just for getting a collective idea of the elim, it also forces people to think more about their reads in a more coherent manner (since I'm still very confused about some of the reads right now)
Also just for ease of use, I'm spoilering reasons, just so that my order can be seen clearly.
▼ Onjit
Pretty Meta-gamey, but iirc, Onjit has a tendency to be inactive as town, afaik he's usually more active as an evil one because of interest and two because I think he doesn't like to make his teammate do all the work.
▼ Pqwerty
Looking through Pqwerty's iso, a lot of his actions clearly have the intent of trying to solve the game, my *only* hesitancy with his slot is from past experience, knowing that he can drum up a plan to make himself appear town-like.
▼ Marshmallow Marshall
Gonna preface this off and say I literally do not understand Mafia terminology so when MM starts talking about OMGUS'ing my brain does not comprehend any of that, so my read on this could be inaccurate.
They seem interested in pushing for information, such as pushing Elijah to explain their reads on Mini, or pushing people to explain their reads on me.
▼ Nuclear Gandhi
My town-read on them was stronger before, and that was mostly because I was just skimming the thread and their response to things gave me a good vibe, though now looking at their iso I can't point a finger at any one thing that made me think of them as town. Its not to say I think they're not town, but I'm not as certain of it now as I was before.
▼ Grilyon02
Pretty clear just because of new-player-syndrome, but I'm still being alert of them as the possibility of them swindling us could still bite us in the future.
▼ 2B55B5G_TNG
Townlean only because she does seem somewhat interested in scumhunting but its very minimal (probably due to being busy or something)
▼ Big Bon Jovi
null because they have yet to say anything of value
▼ Buzzerbee
Mostly null, I don't know BB's playstyle well, but their posts have seemed to try to help, but a lot seems like filler.
▼ Minimania
Their iso really doesn't have a lot, most of it seems to be defending, one thing I'll give credit for is still trying to figure things out even while being under accusation, because as town I think they'd be more interested in solving the game rather than staying alive, though the heavy focus on his defense is what's making me scumlean
▼ ElijahBaley
Most of his iso just seems off to me, a lot of it gives off frustration, which normally I would associate as a town-trait, but most of the frustration comes from being suspected or asked about their stances, both of which he wasn't very forthcoming of iirc. I don't know their playstyle, but it just doesn't seem right to me
Sorry for the wait, I decided to go into everyone's iso to get a better grasp of my reads

I thought of something. I'm gonna use this list as a thought experiment, give me some time to collect my thoughts

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:05:34

1. Gikkle
2. Pqwerty
3. Marshmallow Marshall
4. Nuclear Gandhi
5. Grilyon02
6. 2B55B5G TNG
7. Oliwaz144
8. Buzzerbee
9. Minimania
10. ElijahBaley

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:06:42

Maybe I'm thinking way too far into this but I think the list might have some sort of evidence that could help us

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:20:53

In any given game, if i am a member of the Mafia and I have two scum teammates, whenever I make a readslist, I generally separate my two partners on the list significantly.

In my only champs game, game 7 in season 9, I was a member of the Mafia paired up with Illario and Wisp. I died on day 1. I had a readslist (fabricated, obviously) that placed Wisp near the top, but Illario in the middle.

Minimania wrote:

Yus
Wisp
Spiderz

Bus
supershorty
illario
Kowboy
schiavetto
shinichi
Sus
an_gorta_pratai
Seven
Lag

as for everyone else, head empty ask later

I post this because I'm trying to get into a scum headspace. I was scum this game.

I think, because I don't want my teammates to be associated, I split them apart in my readslist, and I made sure to place one in the middle. I don't remember why, but I think I didn't want to draw attention to him. I'm honestly not sure anymore

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:22:26

Minimania wrote:

1. Gikkle
2. Pqwerty
3. Marshmallow Marshall
4. Nuclear Gandhi
5. Grilyon02
6. 2B55B5G TNG
7. Oliwaz144
8. Buzzerbee
9. Minimania
10. ElijahBaley

so, if I assume that I'm not alone in my line of thinking there, then it's probably someone smack in the middle and someone at the top (cant be bottom because that's me and Elijah)

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:24:04

so, for me, the likely possibilities are as follows under this theory:

Gikkle/Gandhi (less likely)
Gikkle/2B
Gikkle/Oli
Gikkle/Buzz
Gandhi/2B
Gandhi/Oli
Gandhi/Buzz

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:26:28

However, I'm not done, because I have one more theory.

This game differs from my champs game in that it had a traitor.

Shadow knew his teammates, but they didn't know him

So, maybe to signal to his teammates, he put them next to each other, which provides drastically different possibilities

2B/Oli
Oli/Buzz

But Buzz and Oli's interactions today make it seem like it's not s/s

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:29:44

under the 2nd theory, the only plausible team combination would be 2B and Oli

under the first theory, Gikkle is likely not Gandhi's teammate, but he could be Oli's teammate (with the defense thing)

I don't scumread Gikkle, so I'm not that comfortable voting him

2B is a little too close in the list to Gandhi for me to accept a vote on her

I already have my sus on Oli, so maybe this is bias speaking, but I think Oli would give us the most information because if he flips Mafia, we are left with two viable candidates to lynch (Gikkle and 2B) and one slightly less viable teammate (Gandhi) according to both theories

If he flips town, then this flip dispels both theories

Minimania · 2022-09-13 14:30:28

Thus, if I haven't yet already did this

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