Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-05 19:06:52

someone said we should all be posting townreads right now instead of scumreads. i disagree. everyone is townreading each other and it's preventing us from making any kind of progress

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-05 19:22:29

okay looking back, i think my top scumread right now is ShadowsEdge

huge flip flop for me because I townread them on D1

but did anyone read Shadow's reads in this post?

every single read was so wishy washy. they didn't want to swing any particular direction with anyone. it was "this person has been helpful but i could be wrong." or "i don't know their play style very well"

not to mention they voted Elijah today for being defensive i guess? but then they were still very wishy washy even on that vote saying "i don't entirely scumread you"

i don't know, nothing from Shadow seems very helpful today at all

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-05 19:24:30

!vote ShadowsEdge

sorry for changing my vote off Pqwerty so fast, but i'd rather lynch Shadow, who i'm more confident is scum, than Pqwerty, who is like 50/50 to me right now

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-05 19:35:45

ShadowsEdge wrote:

And if you would see I did go a particular direction with everyone, stating everyone as either a Town-read/Townlean or Scumlean, the only ones who I didn't lean on were you and Bon Jovi since both of you had very little information in your posts to clearly make a read on either of you.

your read on Marshmallow gives no indication of which way you lean to me. you were just kind of stating facts like "they're pushing for information"
your read for Gandhi was "i thought they were town, but i'm not certain anymore as to why i thought that"
your read for 2b was "townlean but it's very minimal"
your read for mini was "scumlean but i give them credit for still trying to figure things out"

you leaned certain ways for mostly everyone, and slightly leaning versus a hard read on someone is definitely not a crime. but it was the fact that you did it for everyone except elijah, and your read on elijah didn't sit right with me. elijah is actively trying to solve the game and has had some really good, although sometimes mislead, insights

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-05 19:51:58

pretty much all of our accusations are baseless though, Shadow. we’re just trying to get somewhere because we don’t have any concrete evidence all we have is social deduction.

Grilyon2

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-06 10:17:09

Minimania wrote:

2b55b5g wrote:
there’s only 2 mafia? meaning 1 mafia and 1 traitor? or 2 mafia who know each other, meaning 2 mafia and 1 traitor?
this comes off as a townslip to me

i agree

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-06 12:20:24

!unvote

Gikkle claimed mason here, and then a few posts later claimed to have protection (which i'm assuming would be along the lines of a bulletproof role?)

even the mason claim by itself was sketchy considering the only person who could back them up on it would be Bon Jovi, someone who has made a whopping four (4) posts so far

Shadow's informer claim is weak, but i don't think letting Gikkle be the one to hammer is a wise idea before they explain why they made two contradicting claims

i'm up way too late but i'll check back in when i wake up to see what Shadow and Gikkle have to say

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-07 18:57:25

i feel like marshmallow is the biggest wildcard right now

thanks gikkle for explaining your claim. was an interesting move but i believe you especially after you put the nail in the coffin for shadow

we’re in a really good spot today. losing a cop is maybe worst case scenario but we’ve made it clear that we can scumread pretty well based on who we lynched yesterday.

bon jovi (now oliwaz) and marshmallow being the only two people not to vote for shadow could be an easy mafia team

but jovi was so inactive that i can’t actually theorize anything from their posts.

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-07 19:03:14

BuzzerBee wrote:

bon jovi (now oliwaz) and marshmallow being the only two people not to vote for shadow

oops just realized mini didn’t vote for shadow either but given that Mini probably got a clear from Elijah and that mini was sus’ing shadow at the end of D2 i find mini as scum unlikely

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-07 19:04:28

and obviously at the end of the day my vote was off shadow but i hope i explained that well enough with the Gikkle thing

however that’s behind us with the new info from Gikkle today

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-07 23:18:12

i can give another long reads list later tonight! definitely need to update from my old one on D1

at first glance i like Oliwaz so far. i appreciate them for jumping right in and catching up on everything so fast.

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 07:04:11

here's the ISO list again for easy access

Host
(0.) Norwee

Alive
2. Onjit / Gikkle
3. Marshmallow Marshall
4. 2b55b5g
5. Pqwerty
6. Minimania
8. Big Bon Jovi / Oliwaz144
10. BuzzerBee
11. Nuclear Gandhi
12. Grilyon2

Dead
1. ShadowsEdge (Traitor Watcher)
7. AllenCaspe9510 (Vanilla Townie)
9. ElijahBaley (Town Cop)
13. Lumi (Vanilla Townie)

time for me to make my reads list again
damn i forgot how much work this game is lol

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 07:27:38

2b55b5g wrote:

fruit vendor visited me last night (N2) btw

also i just saw this post what does this mean lol

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 07:47:06

2b55b5g wrote:

BuzzerBee wrote:
2b55b5g wrote:
fruit vendor visited me last night (N2) btw
also i just saw this post what does this mean lol
fruit vendor is basically someone that gives fruits to other people (it does nothing), so i received a fruit last night

what the hell that's so cute

AllenCaspe9510, Grilyon2

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 07:48:16

Oliwaz144 wrote:

Oh and Mods, please lower the cooldown on posting.
I aint an invader

done

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 07:57:05

scumreads

Marshmallow Marshall
for so many reasons. just today they voted to lynch Gandhi with the only reason being that Gandhi disappeared at the end of D2? which is totally unfair to Gandhi imo because they have been nothing but active and helpful and then swooped in at the last second to help hammer Shadow. Marshmallow is also going back and forth on their reads of 2b, and also is avoiding giving any kind of scumreads. i hate wishy washy players. it was the same with Shadow. our job is to lynch mafia, so scumreads are one of the most helpful things you can offer as town. if you're wrong then you're wrong but at least try to give us something. ANYWAY all this plus elijah pushing Marshmallow on D2 leads me to believe elijah might've gotten a red check on Marsh.

Oliwaz144
i don't have much to go off from their predecessor either i just need to see more before i come to a better conclusion. but jovi seemed scummy to me so that is carrying over to my opinion of oliwaz. as i mentioned before i appreciate them catching up on everything but other than their first post everything else hasn't been much of a contribution

townreads

Pqwerty
i really have no reason to not believe their miller claim. #1 on my town list for sure

2b55b5g
she helped hammer Shadow, made this very townie post, and was already sus of Marshmallow since D2. i don't have a lot of hard evidence for my townread on 2b, but i feel like it's mostly the way i interpret the tone of their posts. mostly calm, logical, and helpful. never defensive. 2b just wants to solve the game which is the most town thing you can do lol

Minimania
mini was immediately skeptical of shadow's claim, was townread by elijah HARD which leads me to believe if elijah didnt get a red check on Marshmallow n1, he definitely got a green check on mini n1, and mini has been skeptical of Marsh since D2

Grilyon2
honestly i thought grilyon died already lmao i just realized they're still alive. i don't see their inactivity as scummy at all though. i mean just take a look at their most recent post from D2. they hit the nail on the head with all of their reads and ultimately ended up voting for Shadow. i hope Grilyon comes back and gives us more insight on D3.

Nuclear Gandhi
no longer my top townread, but definitely still a townread. i talked about this a bit in my read for Marshmallow, but Gandhi has been nothing but helpful and helped hammer Shadow. this last post where they said they didn't feel like catching up was weird but the still voted correctly regardless so i can forgive it. hoping to see more from them today tho

neutral

Gikkle
i townread gikkle until their weird claim on D2. i do believe their explanation for the claim though but now that i see Gikkle is a very brilliant player, i wouldn't put it past them to do some kind of meta reverse psychology thing lol. this is all just conspiracy tho i definitely lean town for Gikkle but i wouldn't be surprised if they ended up winning the game as mafia and baffled us all

Minimania

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 19:08:58

dude voting me just because i scumread you isn’t helping your case lol

i’m not scumreading you because you arrived late, but considering that there are 2 mafia left, someone else has to hold that second slot. everyone else has made a case as to why they should be town, and i don’t have much information from you yet. that’s it. you’re not my primary sus at all, im just waiting for more

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-08 21:42:31

2b55b5g wrote:

uhhh
are we trying to lynch him right now?

the day just started, i’d prefer to chat some more and get some more reads

2b55b5g

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-09 08:35:36

hot take but i'm starting to second guess Nuclear Gandhi. being busy and becoming less active is one thing but to straight up say you lost interest in the game sounds like mafia burnout, especially with such a strong town & after losing a mafia teammate

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-09 10:01:54

Gikkle wrote:

BuzzerBee wrote:
hot take but i'm starting to second guess Nuclear Gandhi. being busy and becoming less active is one thing but to straight up say you lost interest in the game sounds like mafia burnout, especially with such a strong town & after losing a mafia teammate
He's saying he lost interest 30 hours into day 2? Which correlates with when he lost activity. And that's well before we got a cop check on Mini and a mafia member flipped.

yeah i guess you’re right. still the way he phrased it “lost interest” is kinda to me. and then gave a d3 catch up post and then disappeared again

the golden D1 townread for Gandhi is starting to crumble in my opinion

anyway i’m really just trying to make more conversation right now while i wait for grilyon to post their thoughts. i don’t wanna crucify marshmallow until grilyon gets some words in

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-09 21:12:07

Gikklel wrote:

Despite this, I still don't think MM/Gandhi is likely to be S/S

this i agree with. but i do think if it’s not one it’s the other

2b55b5g

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-10 03:09:11

what are common tactics traitors use to let their teammates find them?

i could imagine randomly voting a teammate, or talking about specific people more than others, etc

i’m looking through Shadow’s ISO trying to find those little hints but nothing is really popping out at me.

he did immediately townread Gandhi but honestly that doesn’t say a lot to me

has anyone else looked through shadow’s ISO for anything like this?

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-10 15:48:08

!vote Marshmallow Marshall

72 hours always goes by way faster than i expect holy ****

anyway i think this is a good lynch based on the information we’ve received today.

honestly i think i would prefer a gandhi lynch but it’s a little late to change the wagon

if MM flips scum then Gandhi is probably fine tho so we shall see

if i don’t make it to D4 tell the fruit vendor i love them

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-10 15:53:21

Pqwerty wrote:

Idk if this is useful, but if we're doing NKA and according to MM, anyone would've killed Lumi out of fear, why would they kill Elijah over Gikkle? Was Elijah not a fear kill?
Also, if it was a fear kill, then the team can't be two people who have never played with Lumi because at least 1 mafia had to be afraid of Lumi.

would you mind rewording this? i’m having a hard time following lol sorry. also what is NKA

BuzzerBee · 2022-09-10 15:55:50

Gikkle wrote:

Pqwerty wrote:
I think BB was the only person who doubted your claim Gikkle. Idk if this is WIFOM territory, but the fact that you're still alive could mean that the mafia believed you and didn't kill you. Hence BB couldn't be mafia since he didn't believe your claim. Is this too speculative?
It means wolves didn't believe me and saw me as a potential mislynch (or just otherwise not worth killing), or they did but had a kill in mind that took priority over a mason (maybe they rolecopped Elijah, or maybe they had a non-mechanical reason for it).
For the first case - it means wolves are either aligned with Jovi, know Jovi's role somehow as town, or somehow figured out via logic that I wasn't being truthful about the mason claim (dunno how likely this is for anyone except MM, who has played with me before in a game where I've done a reaction fish).
For the second case - It means they either had a good reason to kill Elijah for a non-mechanical reason (I'll have to think for a while about what this could mean), or they found elijah was cop bc of a role cop or vanilla cop (totally plausible in a role list like this).

@Pqwerty if you’re asking why they killed Elijah over Gikkle, Gikkle made a post about it

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scumreads

townreads

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