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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

I wasn't really ready for it, or it felt like. Its not worth it for the rewards and time I put onto. I like playing campaigns in increasing difficulty.

I think that the main issue, to me, with campaigns is that their difficulty didn't quite "scale." As mentioned in the Discord (and posted here by N1KF), the issue I find is that beating an Easy campaign won't necessarily equip me with the skills I need to beat the next campaign. There's no sense of continuity. It was the more extremely difficult campaigns where this exact issue is more noticeable, ones that require you to know specific nuances of the engine that weren't covered before, they just appear out of nowhere because they became a trend.

If we were to reintroduce campaigns (no promises, I highly doubt that we will), I'd want them to have some continuity amongst each other, and involve the community a tad in their creation, as long as they are set within a consistent theme. Say, there's a Medium campaign set in a desert, I want it to gradually shift towards a forest, and have the next campaign take place there. I'd want the skills you pick up in Medium campaign and the practice you get be enough to let you pass through the first world in Hard campaign.

I'm not sure how many worlds you've built (not many if I look at https://archivee.sirjosh3917.com/player/Satanya ), but I feel you might be a little naïve here. Building a single world with a gradual difficulty (while maintaining creativity/fun) is already incredibly hard, especially considering the variability between the types of challenges that players prefer/find easier. Try that with 2 or more, good luck. If you want to involve the community (which you should), then this idea of scaling the difficulty smoothly just goes out of the window. If you also want to to a transition thematically (desert->forest you mentioned), good luck!

Furthermore, how do you define "skills" that players can pick up? There are a few moves that have names because they're common/infamous, but most of it is sheer experience. The beauty of almost limitless creativity is that it can't be defined exactly. You might have some overarching themes at best.

Insane campaigns were a mistake. They made the median difficulty Medium-Hard (if I remember correctly) and that's just so yikes, most people have trouble finishing even those

Thinking long-term, yes. Considering the game was dying and only a handful of hardcore players were left, it's a logical and fun thing to do to cater to those players in a last dying breath. For a new version of EE, I'd definitely leave that difficulty out; extreme was more than enough.

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

No one said it would be easy. But I don't believe "difficult therefore impossible" is a valid point to make! As mentioned, it's how I'd handle it. I wouldn't make the worlds on my own, of course, similarly to how I don't make the art, programming, and other fields. I leave those to the professionals, and so far it's working out.
As others have mentioned, campaigns have had many more issues past that with execution, which is predominantly why we're doing away with them and not bringing them into EE!. Instead, we're doing something that involves the community and their created worlds and putting an emphasis on worlds that handle the game's mechanics well.

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

do NOT use the EEU physics engine, do NOT use anything close to the EEU physics engine. the only thing that matters is the physics engine and the game also has to run and have multiplayer and optionally a chat feature.

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

▼Just the images

Funposting

▼2022-06-30 - Fake news

ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE NEWS ABOUT EVERYBODY EDITS! (NOT NOT CLICKBAIT) (SOURCE: WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO KNOW?)

We have decided to scrap the familiar circular shape of the smileys and instead give the player, at the time of profile creation, the choice of having a triangular, square, or hexagonal avatar shape. There are also plans to release a $99.99 DLC (plus shipping and handling) that, among other things, would allow player avatars to assume an octagonal shape.

Also, development speed is likely to increase henceforth. The keyboard we are using to craft our code has recently been upgraded and now includes an "E" key. You wouldn't believe how hard it was to code without using the letter "e".

Also, regarding in-game music, Hugh, our "musician", is on a "vacation" to "Hawaii" and should be "back soon". Until then, the game shall be as silent as a wise defendant.

beautifully said Tony

real

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▼2022-07-02 - Marketing, professionalism, support, and usernames

1000 members, pre-release, and contests

Could we reach on this server with 1000 ppls?

Well we're at like 870 and we always see gradual growth each day and week, so why not

What would it happen in that peak ? It's going to be new channels or something special ?

Who knows. I'd be down to showing some content when it happens. Idk what content yet

I think if EE! releases this server will also see a pretty major boost in members

And yeah. But they already know this server exists right?

We do plan on having marketing prior to release

So hopefully!

ee! marketing? 😳

contest or riot

i could make an ee! banner ad maybe

would be pretty cool

Maaaaybe contest

[...]

might see about trying to make an EE! banner ad soon just for fun

wont make it animated or anything like that i'm not that skilled

wait until we have a vid out :BombSmirk:

Why professionals take longer

wouldn't a team of professionals have at least something after a year and a half of getting paid, when a single hobbyist can make a full demo in like a few days for game jams and stuff

This might be a troll post, but I'll bite.
the difference between a hobbyist doing something for a game jam is that they typically use an existing engine that has an existing renderer.
I can whip something up in GameMaker and have a decently functioning demo fairly quickly. Will it be quality? Probably not. It'll only be as good as the amount of time we spend on it.
We are using our own engine, which requires, believe it or not, time and coding to get many of the systems done: renderer, physics, backend, frontend, client. Past that, we need art, music, and we aren't done yet with the latter aspects.

Platform support

do you at least plan on linux support?

Mac, Linux, and Windows, possibly consoles and mobile, yes

Restrictions on screen names

what'll the restrictions be for ee! screen names? A-Z and 0-9, or will symbols be legal too?

We'll see, but go with the default. A bit less restrictive than EE was maybe

Don't know what "the default" is.

▼2022-07-04 - Patience, smileys, and amount of stuff

Excitement and patience

hi

I'm so excited for Everybody Edits! Release!

Can't wait to make levels for the game, it looks super promising

Keep up the good work, much love

-Kira

Eventually. For now our devs aren't in a safe enough space to code

But, hopefully soon!

The more time we have to work on the game, the more time we have to create more content than we initially anticipated to have, and more ideas than we had

Which is exciting! Naturally the more we have to work on the game, the more flexibility we get to experiment with what works and what doesn't

Like that whole switch from vector to pixel. It only happened because we had the time to experiment with several different directions for pixel art until we landed at one we wanted. Had we rushed development, that flexibility wouldn't have been afforded

It gets better with more development time that passes, not worse. Just requires a little patience!

Absolutely @Musearys
This amount of patience is needed from the community to bring out the best possible game, with the help of the community and the staff team, I am sure that the final product will be a massive success.

I can't wait for it.

I can't.

I CANNOT! Viva el Everybody Edits!

Viva la revolucion!

- Kira

I seriously hope so!
I admit, I am stressed, with most of the dev team being out of commission and in the war, so I worry for their wellbeing. Seeing mean messages like, "WHEN GAME" or "lol u guys arent doing anything" kinda hurts at times, but positive messages like yours make me smile! 😄

Gameplay footage, and "largest part of the game"

musearys can we plz see snippet of gameplay

Nuh uh, not until I'm comfortable

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i will make ee! videos !!!!

do it. I don't think it'll take too long before we start showing stuff. There's a feature I really really really want to showcase when it's ready to be shown. It makes up the largest part of the game

Would've shown off stuff sooner but most of it is so prototypical and devs have been away for months 🙃

🙃

Yeah.... How are the devs anyway? Are they currently in safe positions?

only a couple are in a safe position, but the rest are still conscripted

There's some jokey stuff about smileys having arms and legs.

Smileys

I want the artist to finish a clown smiley alreaaaddyyy

that way I can add it as an emote here

enjoy this BEAUTIFUL creation

a bunny with a bunny hoodie and sunglasses lmao

Hahahahaha

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last cosmetic leak for today, this is Robert. Be nice to Robert.

he's a slime that loves to sit on people

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/ext … -slime.mp4

is what it is based off of

nope, based off of Brain Slugs from Futurama

the amount of references in cosmetics

is astounding

We're nerds

🤓

Too much stuff?

hope u guys dont just drop 9000 hats and smilies of content day 1

we won't

We will 8700

true

There's seasonal stuff in there for holidays and seasons, etc...

I think ahead

it sounds like u guys are making content years ahead of time lmfao

there's a slurplus of smileys, not so much of cosmetics yet.
And of tilesheets and BGs, not really enough to launch a game with

▼2022-07-05 - Community and new experiences

Ritoru and Musearys talk about the community for a moment.

I also care about the game a lot, it was part of my childhood

I'm even more surprised that the community is growing, maybe people are remembering it again?

In its prime, EE had a lot and a lot of users and players. Once we're ready for it, we plan on creating marketing to reach those people, and new ones!

Yeah, I feel like the game depends a lot on its playerbase to keep things fresh

That's how things work in multiplayer games, ya need people

I miss the times when there were 1k people active at the same time

Stair key maps and all that

Same!!!!!

The boss maps were always the best part

Back when 20 people would try to stay alive in a bridge and they slowly turned tiles red

Someone even made a snake bot that allowed them to turn blocks red immediately

I also vaguely remember a yoshi mario galaxy art map

All of that is basically gone

Not sure if that will ever come the same way to the new EE

Hopefully it'll recreate some of those old experiences and create some cool new ones!
Besides EE!, there's another cool thing. Can't say anything though. Just that it exists and it is being nurtured

▼2022-07-06 - Lore, banhammer

Lore

There's some lore in EE!

Banhammer cosmetic

There's some nonsense about Marvel smileys, DC Comics smileys, and emoji.

tbh

I'd give myself a banhammer cosmetic

▼2022-07-07 - Anticheat

There's some misunderstandings about anticheat. Musearys also states that illegal kinds of hacks (not simple cheats), such as account breaching will be taken seriously and reported.

Here, Musearys clarifies what she meant in one of her previous messages:

You misinterpreted what I said in the message Izzy quoted.

I said that movement that isn't consistent with what server expects will be filtered. That's all. That's why cheating largely would be hard. The game will simply snap you back to where it remembers you being. And on that note, your client is just a renderer. You don't store any physics client-side, so there's not much to alter or change.

If you bypass the filter, that'll be treated with a ban likely

If you just lag and have packet loss, and teleport around, that's nothing scary. A lot of games treat it the same way. Rubberbanding in multiplayer games is usually the server "correcting" your movement to be consistent with its own calculations

Difference is, most of those games run the physics engine on your pc and cross check it with a server. We don't store anything client-side, so there's really nothing to compare movement with. You just see what the server sees. Changing what the server sees comes with its own challenges.

To triple clarify because I just know someone will misinterpret— if you teleport around, the server will ignore that movement and cancel it. Most types of common hacks in EE just get reversed in EE!, like TP, speed hacks, etc. And even so, there's nothing to hack. You have a front end, a renderer. The server that runs it all has its own security and hacking that would likely get you into trouble with the server owners, not us.

What kind of movement is deemed illegal? I can't say. The inner workings will remain under wraps. Common argument I see is "people can mash buttons fast" — the server doesn't check how fast you press buttons beyond a certain physical threshold. (I don't expect any human to be able to draw an entire painting with blocks in a single frame.)

It isn't so sensitive that game is unplayable, but it is very preventative of common type of cheats

I hope this clarified some things

▼2022-07-10 - Tutorials and crossovers

Tutorial

Suggestion : Spend a lot of time working on the EE! tutorial to make it the best thing ever, because it's one of the most important thing in any game ever and previous EE tutorials made by me were quite meh/bad.

You have no idea. The tutorial is something I've been planning for a while, there's so many features to go over, both old and new, and they have to be taught in such a fluid and natural way

Crossovers

Could EE! have crossovers with another games?

Likely, there's one we've been talking to

Like Kongregate , Rotmg , Minecraft or something nearly ,(Omori).

We'll see about others but so far the one we're doing is really cute!

Do you think what games could corelate with the graphics of EE?

I mean, with our artist, I imagine most games' characters or enemies can be turned into smileys. He does an epic job.

I'm excited to see how he tackles Crown Smileys, though I've seen one already. Only smileys so far too use a 64x64 template

To*

Had to test it to make sure hitbox isn't confusing

Though I forgot to disable the component that spawns petals whenever you move

(Petals? Hmm...)

▼2022-07-12 - 32-bit systems

I have a question: Do I need 64 bit version of Windows and/or 64x OS and/or 64x processor to play EE! ?

Nope, it can run on 32bit systems as well

▼2022-07-13 - Pooey GUI

spent a while ironing out the UI, I think it came out better than EEU's

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What'll the block selection UI look like, Boss?

I gotchu

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Chocolate confirmed for EE!

I'm sure the writer meant to spell "Fairytale" but probably gave up halfway through and had a stroke

▼2022-07-14 - Development update

EE! will be developed as long as it needs to, but hopefully not too long. We really don't have all that much left, it's really just a matter of finding a time when the devs can be safe enough to get back to work.

So far, it started development in around March of last year, and has had a few months of hiatus in Summer of 2021, and now here. In total, dev time has been less than a year

Maybe 9 months if I had to estimate?

It's not like we've been sitting and doing just that 24/7. If we had, the game would've been out long ago. But, with a larger team, you have to schedule meetings with everyone, direct tons of people who, at the end of the day, are still people and can get sick or have family emergencies, etc...

At the end of the day, as hard as it is for some to believe, we're human. There's always something that slows down development. It isn't perfect smooth sailing

And at the end of it, the quality of product will reflect how much time and care went into it. Sure, we can finish a rough version or hire a freelancer to do it in a month. Will it be a quality game? More than likely, no.

Right now exists a really weird and fatal bug in the renderer. If we shipped the game as is, it'd only take a minute of game time before it crashes, or less, depending on how many objects it needs to render. The dev in charge of the renderer's been out of commission for months now.

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

A lot happened last night, and here it is:

▼2022-07-14 - Minisaurus development graphics for EEF and EEU

People are talking about Minisaurus here.

The original version of the golden dragon was supposed to be a cyborg

and boy was that something

let me find it

found it

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baby smiley Minisaurus made

there was this test thing

(you know who took their time to make every single one)

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I liked these blocks Minisaurus made

Are these... Chocolate??

gingerbread pack

I think Minisaurus proposed a gingerbread pack for Christmas 2018

but Xeno shot it down quick

▼2022-07-14 - EE! graphics

I wonder do you always keep in mind to check how the blocks look in a cluster lets say?

in EEU, design principle was just to make a 5x5 block structure with those tiles and see if they connect, if they do it got added in

In EE!, we test all assets together to make sure palettes work well and that the artstyle works

I often suggest palette changes for smileys and tilesets, mostly because I want to make sure we don't introduce too many needless colours and keep reusing ones that work

We try to limit it to about 10 colours per graphic, but, let's say we have two different bushes in a given pack. I don't think that bush 1 needs a different kind of green that's slightly more yellowish than bush 2, when both can use the same colours from a bush done a while ago.

Same with smileys-- instead of using a brand new red, we can use a red we'd already done that looks nearly identical

Often times when I suggest palette changes, I literally just pull up a graphic we did a while ago, lay out both palettes to compare them, and offer a comparison. Often times, the colours are very close to the point that changing them to the original ones doesn't affect the art much.
It ensures everything ties in stylistically

I don't like to manage things like that typically, I prefer to leave artists to do art stuff, but I like to make sure everything holds up to scrutiny every now and then

so we don't stray too far from the original principle of using few colours with no noisiness and lots of hue shifting

The only things that break this principle of "as few colours as possible" would be the auras, and the Crown Smileys (the latter of which have 20+ colours per graphic)

other than that, even particles have very few colours

I was a bit surprised to discover each sprite had a different palette. normally I think of pixel art sharing a common palette across its various sprites.

I'm not sure how large our palette is currently. I'd say 200 colours, or less. We try to keep it contained in that area and not add more unless absolutely needed

the idea is if you look at a graphic we made a year ago, and a graphic we will make two years from now, you wouldn't be able to tell which was done first

Futureproofing the artstyle as much as we can

▼2022-07-14 - Crown Smileys and lore (THE COOL PART)

Crown Smileys are cool

Since their design is tied to some faint lore, I wanted to design them myself. The artist then basically made my concept art go from crappy to actually super great with his talent. I tried to keep him from changing their looks too much, because I had a solid vision for their design and purpose

I bounced some ideas with others like @Stellaria but I tackled a lot of it on my own

There is lore for crowns? Damn

Crown Smileys, not crowns. 😉 Two different things

Crown Smileys are a new feature I love

only 7 can exist in any given time

Bruh what

So yo uare telling me

Only 7 can exist

Mmhm, they cycle hands

Musearys hesitates a bit to reveal more.

so Crown Smileys are a smiley you gain temporarily if you achieve a specific task. There's three different types atm. As I mentioned before, and N1KF and Anti_Dragon kinda cracked, yep-- one of the criteria is setting the highest time in Time Trials of a curated world in a 24hr period. Assuming you do, you get the Crown Smiley for a week, at which point it passes hands. Only 7 can exist because one person can win one in 24hr period and they last in your profile for a week

So if you set the best time out of everyone in a 24hr period in a curated world's Time Trials, you're rewarded a Crown Smiley for a week

but while you have it, you cannot earn it for a month afterwards, to give new people a shot at earning it

I love features like that whooh

Do we also have crown smileys for world builders?

Because I am never going to get the time trail one 🥺

The first Crown Smiley, a green one, is rewarded for setting best times in a Time Trial

then there's one related to worlds, yes

and one related to a brand new feature I still can't mention

In the lore, there are 5 Crown Smileys, so 2 don't have a "task" yet

green dragon!!!???!!? 😳

nope

not a green dragon

crown smileys sound cool

2 of them are impastors

well, as Minimania mentioned when I showed him the designs, he said they looked like eldritch beings to him

They are also so far the only smileys to exceed the 32x32 "limit"

and have a unique template for themselves, a 64x64 one

One of the Crown Smileys has a blue black hole on its (her? in the lore) head

One of the Crown Smileys will be in the background of the Void, but since few check message history, I guess I can let that secret in

i hope we get lots of fan art

How does EE fan art work

One person did an amazing fan art of the devil smiley once

It actually reflects how smileys and actual lore interact well imho

https://discord.com/channels/7904750914 … 3410880532

here

I personally just imagine smileys aren't exactly how they look in their world. The Crown smiley that appears in the Void is a good example of it. It has a body in the Void BG (a very broken body), but also has a smiley equivalent

I doubt smileys are anything human-like, given their capabilities of movement

well, lore-wise, you'll see. They both are and aren't humanlike. Given we have smileys like dogs, axolotls, moths, etc... there's something I'm a tiny bit proud of lore wise with how it works

I didn't expect EE! to be a game where I'd have to get my thinking cap and writing skills equipped on, but

life is full of surprises i guess

for now, I shall keep my lorebook hidden and hiss at anyone who tries to snatch it

if ee! has a crossover this opens the potential for crossover theories

so far we do have an indie game we're working with

and planning to have smileys of its character in EE! because cute

and whenever I make my moth RPG, I miiight include some characters as smileys as well, maybe

Satanya talks more about her moth RPG in the server but I'm not including it here because it's not EE-related

▼2022-07-14 - Boring money stuff

Satanya wrote a lot about this before but I'm not gonna copy all that here. Instead here's a neat summary:

But to summarise everything, one of the devs is back, it'd have taken a considerable time investment and financial investment to hire a freelancer. Easy for teens to comment on what we do, but at the end of the day, watching a sport for years doesn't make you good at it.
In essence, hiring any freelancer would be $5k on the lowest end, and take about two months of learning at the very least, and even so, by the end of those two months, any freelancer can nope out of it if the scope or the project isn't something they want to participate in. Most freelancers take on very light jobs for quick money. So hiring anyone would take about two months of pay, and then you have no guarantee they won't quit by the end of it because they expected to work something else. If they do, well, you're out of money.
Managing a team is extremely tricky and often times comes with these nuances that most people wouldn't know about unless they've had experience in the field.
Atm one of our devs is back at work and was paid, so even so, freelancers wouldn't exactly have been worth it. I ask you folks to be patient and not blame us for the past teams' mistakes.

▼2022-07-14 - More smiley and moth talk

also can i see plaguebearer/pestilence smiley if i no leak?

Plague smiley? Perhapsssss, but I'm not satisfied with how it looks yet!

Haha

Nah, it looks like a ball with a beak

Doesn't sell the illusion of a hood or mask all too well

ball with a beak? Bird Smiley moment

I clarify that I mean the Easter Bird smiley.

Fake bird! 😡

:
I have a theory that EE smileys were originally meant to just be faces and costumes

and the idea wasn't scrapped until maybe the Halloween 2011 smileys

or maybe Terminator

It's very possible. I do like that they started diversifying smileys

EE! isn't diverse enough, there's only one moth

I want ten. Twenty. Hundreds.

I want a luna moth smiley

And a poodle moth, and a silk moth, and some special fairy moth queen

If you add too many moths there won't be any moths left for the rpg

There will always be moths

No such thing as too many

Moth aura where tiny moths fly around the smiley

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New graphics compilation!

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

DO THEY HAVE ANY SCREENSHOTS OF THE PHYSICS ENGINE ?

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DO THEY HAVE ANY SCREENSHOTS OF THE PHYSICS ENGINE ?

No footage of gameplay yet. However it's been confirmed that at this point, it mainly just uses EE's "tried and true" physics.

2022-07-18

The backend and server is written in C++, while the client is written in TypeScript 🙂

I think the C++ backend has been confirmed already, but I don't recall the TypeScript part being revealed yet.

I am 191

I can finally be a cyborg

casually removes cyborg smiley

Cyborg Smiley confirmed. That'll probably be our copyright-friendly version of the Terminator smiley.

edit:

I would be fine with localising

that was the plan anyways iirc

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thanks nikf

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New graphics compilation!

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I'm a professional artist, talented in various art forms, and also a programmer.
I had been playing Everybody Edits for four years ago. ~
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I found higher quality versions of the Discord server icon and banner! Then I cut out the logo parts of them.

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Old vs "new" (7 month old) grass

By combining block-sized segments of the grass in the logo, I managed to piece together most of ten grass blocks:

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▼2022-07-18 - Slime idle animation

Since the Slime's bouncing animation was apparently too disorientating while moving, maybe it could be used as an idle animation?

I think that might work. With the slime bouncing, the issue is that the hitbox remains static-- if it doesn't, depending on how it's handled, it could clip through a block and thus freeze you in place.
So, it would make it extremely difficult to aim while platforming. Also didn't make sense with the tetris drop mechanic.
Maybe as an idle animation, maybe... we'll see.

▼2022-07-19 - Design doc, moths, leech

Writing the design doc

The design doc was so fun to write for the game.
I think I stayed up for a couple of nights writing it— I had to get it done within a few weeks after acquiring EE. So I browsed the forums, checked so many threads of what people thought about classic EE, stuff they wanted change, QoL stuff, stuff I personally liked and didn't like, looked at EEU docs...
I stayed up the whole night at one point because ideas were flowing constantly. I really genuinely hope you folks will enjoy the result of that. It'll take time, but hopefully not very long. Two of the five devs are back, and I know the actual schedule of when they're meeting and what they'll do.

Even with some negativity occasionally, the ray of light at the end is just making me excited every time. I was gonna go sleep now but dammit, I sorta feel motivated to start working on more things for EE!.

Moths

I admit... I commissioned 3 more moths for EE!...

Silkmoth, luna moth, rosy maple moth

I must

Moths are adorable

help, someone

i am making too many moth smiley concepts

Leech

I really want to put in the first leech smiley into the game as a joke

It was such an abomination

▼2022-07-25 - Music rights

People are talking bad about Xenonetix here, but I'll skip some of it.

Oh god, I don't remember the context... I think it was the fact that we mentioned we're gonna redo music entirely, I think?

[...]

I don't have rights to the other composers' music (NeonSynth & RavaTroll), but I did want to buy rights to remix couple of tracks from the latter. I think he got screwed over hard by the previous owner and I wanted to help him out a bit, plus his music is excellent

Can't you contact with the people that made these musics and negotiate with them

well, the details of it are between me and Rava, but essentially many European countries have organisations that you must use to handle music rights-- I know one composer in Croatia I work with has to deal with that-- so essentially all money goes through them, and contracts, etc. and it's just a hot mess

[...]

The true extent of the legality there is very weird. I believe since they did work for him, they kind of consented to have their work used in any case.
But I don't want to like, use Rava's music and not pay him for it, that wouldn't be right, so I'm trying to find a way to buy rights to a couple of tracks so I can remix them and include them in EE! itself

▼2022-07-26 - Beta testing, moth images, and hitboxes

The beta testing phase will start when there will be good enough progress according to Musearys to start it. She already has people on her eye who are good candidates for beta testing. No need to worry about lack of people for beta testing, she knows who to pick 🙂

[...]

I have people in mind for beta testing, yes.

[...]

But I also can't go into details yet about who we've chosen and all that

It will be public beta testing or private one?

Private. It's very unlikely we'll do an open beta. It's best to keep things in a smaller circle to avoid leaks and also to not spoil surprise for others.
I've participated in quite a few beta tests for games and, trust me, it kills the magic for you! You get to see the games in some of their lowest and buggiest states and it becomes less of a fun experience and more of bug hunting

anyways

will there ever be a demo (either showcase video or game) before the game actually releases?

There will be videos, trailers in the future. I can't and won't go into plans right now.

May I help beta test please? 🙏

Don't worry, I have a full list of people! It always changed, expands, etc. Can't tell you if you're on it but you'll know if you are when we get to it! 🕵🏻♀️

Moth images

I'm gonna go take a rest and share a moth variant smiley

It's a very fluffy one

[...]

silk moff with extra fluffy antennae

(Filename: Silkmoth.png)

variant of this adorable lil

(Filename: moth.png)

we also got this one but I wasn't keen on the colours yet (so they're gonna be changed, but at least you get to see how graphics evolve)

(Filename: Lunemoth.png)

a lot of smileys start off with a little bit of a concept art. Sometimes I do it, sometimes the artist does it. I did this one so he gets basic idea of the shape I wanted and how I wanted the wings to look roughly

it makes a lot of sense to have those for more complex smileys where I have a clear idea for their design (like the Crown Smileys, I did all their concepts and asked him and another artist to turn them into both full body things and smileys-- full body cos lore)

Hitbox

@Musearys Good looking smileys

Horrible to use imo

They used parts of an animal and were implemented on the smiley

The outlines are clear

this would be horrible to use ingame

:I think it's fine, but it's fine to have differing opinions!

Not really

When half of the smiley is outside the hitboxes

There's some more conversation about this.

I had the same concerns at first last year when I first saw smileys like that. While I'm not 100% confident in them still, everything I have seen since has reassured me. I hope those words don't feel too empty since I can't explain what exactly I have seen, but I am genuinely surprised at just how well something I thought conceptually is a bad idea really seems to work. But we're not the sort to be stubborn in the face of something that doesn't work. If the larger smileys genuinely turn out to be a problem, they would definitely be removed or edited.

▼2022-07-27 - Lorebook

Then also release Everybody Edits: Dungeons, Everybody Edits Story Mode, Everybody Edits: Legends

[...]

EE story mode: only if it actually tells you the lore of ee

Not a random person's story

EE legends: basically trove + EE

stares at the lorebook I wrote for EE!
some day... some day...

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

We gonna have 100 different moth smileys.

Replace crown with lamp.

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

Replace crown with lamp.

ok, will do!

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

everymothy edits

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

Just a curious question,

Is it planned for a world creator to control the physics of their world or to have custom physics? So for an example, you have argue that EE physics is better then EEU physics. Is it possible to mess around with how physics work in your world?

We'll see. Theoretically, physics on a world-by-world basis is something our engine supports and it's something we may consider including as a feature, but I do worry that it might break consistency between worlds and thus render skills kinda irrelevant.
Very likely not at launch, but who knows?

edit: 250,000 views!

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

2022-08-24 - Possible trailer name

At this point I'm calling the trailer "EE! When"

Don't know if this is meant to be the actual name for the trailer.

2022-08-24 - DALL-E smiley mutations

Musearys was invited to try out DALL-E 2, an image generation algorithm.

▼LARGE IMAGES

I did try feeding DALLE EE! smileys and see if it can do stuff with them

(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_smiley_with_a_galaxy_aura.png)

(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_moth_emoji.png)

The following three images don't have much to signify that they're EE! related, but I'm posting them anyway just in case:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … nachos.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … _scary.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … nachos.png

DALLE being fed EE! staff aura

(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_black_hole.png)

A bunch of non-EE images later...

Can dalle create EE! ?

let me upload a photo of EE! and tell it to create a variant / lookalike

different screenshot

Let's see how DALLE handles it

i am

horrified

For the first of these, Satanya later says "I like this one though" and "Cool stone background"

cropping a different part of it

sec

biblically accurate angels

smiley using god aura

Time to try one more

Ok,for this one, I removed half of the screenshot and told DALLE to regenerate it, and then I removed the other half afterwards

(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_game_set_in_a_forest_.png)

Amma do that with another location

(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_game_set_in_a_forest_with_flowers.png)

last one

Musearys also posted a few mutations of old EE. If you're interested in seeing them, here they are:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .30.16.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .30.51.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .30.19.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … a_city.png, generated from this screenshot

2022-08-26 - Magic classes and rewards

I honestly didn't like the magic class system when it came out

it was a cool idea but in practice I'm not sure about the execution

so  basically it is a rank system

where

when you level up, you get more max energy?

and to level up you have to play games where these magic coins exists?

you would get them randomly when you interact with a coin?

tbh, it would work with like the campaign system

or like, mario maker

where more levers you complete, more xp you would get

and such, you would lvl up

Something like a mario maker system could work pretty neat in EE I think 😮

I never played Mario Maker past like 2 hrs on Wii U, what did they do?

Well neither did I. But Mario maker exists of 2 parts. The editor and some options to play levels.

When done editing your level you upload it basically.

Then people play it (they are given it on their random play throughts of various modes)

Good worlds get likes and bad worlds don't. So they rise automatically.

Difficulty is also rated automatically based on the clear-rate.

Only thing is that this is singleplayer ofc and EE is multiplayer. Don't want people lingering all the time on their own, but it has it charms

I think that's a cool system but hard to translate into EE. Not all worlds have a clear sense of "start" and "finish" after all, or a clear sense of what's "in between." Like, those amazing RPG worlds people did or that one game of life thing, there is an endpoint in some but it isn't all that clear and can take a while. With a rating system, I dunno how that'd work...
But I do like the rated up worlds and stuff. I just worry that it might stifle creativity

Victoria

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From: Brazil, PR

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

2022-08-24 - Possible trailer name

At this point I'm calling the trailer "EE! When"

Don't know if this is meant to be the actual name for the trailer.

2022-08-24 - DALL-E smiley mutations

Musearys was invited to try out DALL-E 2, an image generation algorithm.

▼LARGE IMAGES

I did try feeding DALLE EE! smileys and see if it can do stuff with them

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … y_aura.png
(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_smiley_with_a_galaxy_aura.png)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .10.44.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .10.48.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … _emoji.png
(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_moth_emoji.png)

The following three images don't have much to signify that they're EE! related, but I'm posting them anyway just in case:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … nachos.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … _scary.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … nachos.png

DALLE being fed EE! staff aura

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … k_hole.png

(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_black_hole.png)

A bunch of non-EE images later...

Can dalle create EE! ?

let me upload a photo of EE! and tell it to create a variant / lookalike

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .14.24.png

different screenshot

Let's see how DALLE handles it

i am

horrified

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .17.24.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .17.30.png

For the first of these, Satanya later says "I like this one though" and "Cool stone background"

cropping a different part of it

sec

biblically accurate angels

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .18.41.png

smiley using god aura

Time to try one more

Ok,for this one, I removed half of the screenshot and told DALLE to regenerate it, and then I removed the other half afterwards

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … orest_.png
(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_game_set_in_a_forest_.png)

Amma do that with another location

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … lowers.png
(Filename: pixel_art_of_a_game_set_in_a_forest_with_flowers.png)

last one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .27.24.png

Musearys also posted a few mutations of old EE. If you're interested in seeing them, here they are:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .30.16.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .30.51.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … .30.19.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … a_city.png, generated from this screenshot

2022-08-26 - Magic classes and rewards

I honestly didn't like the magic class system when it came out

it was a cool idea but in practice I'm not sure about the execution

so  basically it is a rank system

where

when you level up, you get more max energy?

and to level up you have to play games where these magic coins exists?

you would get them randomly when you interact with a coin?

tbh, it would work with like the campaign system

or like, mario maker

where more levers you complete, more xp you would get

and such, you would lvl up

Something like a mario maker system could work pretty neat in EE I think 😮

I never played Mario Maker past like 2 hrs on Wii U, what did they do?

Well neither did I. But Mario maker exists of 2 parts. The editor and some options to play levels.

When done editing your level you upload it basically.

Then people play it (they are given it on their random play throughts of various modes)

Good worlds get likes and bad worlds don't. So they rise automatically.

Difficulty is also rated automatically based on the clear-rate.

Only thing is that this is singleplayer ofc and EE is multiplayer. Don't want people lingering all the time on their own, but it has it charms

I think that's a cool system but hard to translate into EE. Not all worlds have a clear sense of "start" and "finish" after all, or a clear sense of what's "in between." Like, those amazing RPG worlds people did or that one game of life thing, there is an endpoint in some but it isn't all that clear and can take a while. With a rating system, I dunno how that'd work...
But I do like the rated up worlds and stuff. I just worry that it might stifle creativity

°. this is trash

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I had been playing Everybody Edits for four years ago. ~
Learning English and Japanese, Portugal ~
Native Portuguese speaker, fluent ~
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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

2022-09-13 - Layered worlds

Suggestion: Layered worlds
They'd cost more than usual, as well as an action tile to allow the player such movement (obviously using GM should also work). Also would be nice if portals worked across layers. Also maybe a very special effect for 2.5D movement (basically transitioning anywhere that's not blocked by a wall)
Functionality: Layers behind the player would be visible unless a layer blocks another layer's stuff, in which case all they player would see is the layer blocking it. Background blocks would likely go behind the layer they're placed on, but in front of the layer directly behind it.
Action blocks on other layers wouldn't have any effect whatsoever (e.g. spikes won't kill if the player is in a different layer than them), though portals used as entrances and exits can theoretically be used to change the player's layer.
Also, disable layering completely with world depths of 1 layer.
World option to hide other layers maybe?

Things I could see happening:

1. Integration as part of their world entirely, maybe even doing midair layer transition jumps or layered hookjumps.

2. People using 3 layer worlds to hide their mechanisms from the minimap by making the middle layer completely black.

3. Proper spectating for things such as boss worlds, though clearly this wouldn't be the only limitation. Proper windows in general.

4. Mazes, people were able to simulate 3D mazes before but now a proper one can get built. I guess technically simulating 4D or 5D mazes also become easier.

5. Using it with vision zones for hidden rooms supposedly.

Preset world size ideas with said feature: Assuming the equation is (L*W*(0.4D+0.6))/10(meaning any L*W*1 world is still the same energy that EEU planned)

1. 100x100x5 world for a decent 2600 energy

2. 200x200x3 world for 7200 energy

3. 600x50x2 world for a normal 4000 energy

4. 50x50x50 world for a strange number of 5150 energy

5. 1000x1000x50 world for a chonky 2060000 energy, I doubt this size would be considered

I really like this idea, though if we implement it, there wouldn't be that many layers I don't think.
I had a similar idea where you could pop into the world's background, and play there, as well as the foreground, but that almost definitely won't be at launch and just a future update.

NoNK

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

woah, everybody edits in 3d? no way

GravityDonut

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Posts: 47

Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

woah, everybody edits in 3d? no way

thats just minecraft

Victoria

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

woah, everybody edits in 3d? no way

thats just minecraft

can i play minecraft

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I'm a professional artist, talented in various art forms, and also a programmer.
I had been playing Everybody Edits for four years ago. ~
Learning English and Japanese, Portugal ~
Native Portuguese speaker, fluent ~
20 years old, April 5, 2003. ~
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Koya

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

then demod nvd too for inacitvety

yea, sure. but he is owner. owner can't be demoded. He can just leave.

i dont see eejesse in worlds either

jesse doesn't play ee much. He is a programmer

i dont see cola1

yea, he is inactive for a while now. but i am sure ee staff has contacts with him. And in case they need him - he will come.

Koya on the other hand is just inactive not in ee, but everywhere. including ee staff work

EDIT. peace, there are very weird symbols in english language people use. " , " and " . ". I suggest you too

I let down my side totally, my mental health was horrible, I attempted to kill myself and then I retracted from the internet due to anxieties. I haven't fully recovered yet.
It hurts that I ghosted this game and my responsibilities. I didn't just leave because I was lazy or didn't want to do the work, I was not mentally capable of it. I have always loved this game, at no point has that not been true.
I've just **** up a lot, some parts my fault, and some parts I could excuse.

When I joined the team the goals that were laid out for me were not the ones that I was then asked to complete, and the not ideal level of communication (which I was also at fault with) was difficult for me, I felt like I was drowning which made the **** I was already dealing with worse.

I do however agree that I shouldn't have an announcement and just left to be forgotten.

Just dropping by so my last message on here could explain my nonexistance, also that I'm using my better mental health to make a game inspired by EE and do what I wasn't able to accomplish here. Hope you all are doing well.

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NoNK

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Re: Hints and leaks of unannounced content

Actually, EE is a comfy retirement home now with no drama ~_~ come enjoy ee offline