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#476 2020-06-08 14:02:27

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Task would be goon anyway, not milk man.
And if i was Task’s team. Why would i make him claim vig when we could literally just keep up the pressure on Shadow and make him get lynched?


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#477 2020-06-08 14:04:57

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Task would be goon anyway, not milk man.
And if i was Task’s team. Why would i make him claim vig when we could literally just keep up the pressure on Shadow and make him get lynched?

Okay, why would I make him claim vig if I was his scum buddy?


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#478 2020-06-08 14:06:56

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Don’t ask me. I thought would be quite stupid of scum!Task to claim in the first place. And that’s why i was assuming he was likely town. But i don’t really trust him.


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#479 2020-06-08 14:08:43

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Although my best guess is that he did it to ensure a mislynch so milk man could use his recruiting ability. And that person is most likely you in that case Luka.


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#480 2020-06-08 14:11:45

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Exactly my point. Task literally gains nothing from claiming vigilante if he was scum. If shadow is telling the truth then task will inevitably get lynched the following day, so he is actively sabotaging his own faction by lying about it.


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#481 2020-06-08 14:13:17

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Although my best guess is that he did it to ensure a mislynch so milk man could use his recruiting ability. And that person is most likely you in that case Luka.

If shadow is town, the myslinch was already secure. He need not butt in.


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#482 2020-06-08 14:14:48

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Norboy. Please. Stop shooting holes in the bottom of the boat.


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#483 2020-06-08 14:17:08

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

You can decide the kill Jawapa. I’m just shooting my beliefs after analyzing the game again.


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#484 2020-06-08 14:19:07

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

!lynch shadow

I am very certain that shadow is the milkman. There's no other reason why Norboy would use such awful argumentation to try and save him if he wasn't trying to salvage his faction crashing straight into the dirt.


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#485 2020-06-08 14:21:41

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I hope your right. For town’s sake. But i don’t think he is.


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#486 2020-06-08 14:26:11

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Luka504 wrote:

There's no other reason why Norboy would use such awful argumentation to try and save him if he wasn't trying to salvage his faction crashing straight into the dirt.

This is real silly though. Read through my progression today. There is no way to fake that if i were either Shadow’s ot Task’s partner.


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#487 2020-06-08 14:26:30

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

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TaskManager - ShadowsEdge, MrJawapa (2)
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#488 2020-06-08 14:30:54

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

There is no way to fake that if i were either Shadow’s ot Task’s partner.

Why not?


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#489 2020-06-08 14:33:04

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Luka504 wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:

There is no way to fake that if i were either Shadow’s ot Task’s partner.

Why not?

I’d pick one stance that benefitted me the most and stick with it. Not reconsider anything.


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#490 2020-06-08 14:34:21

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I’d pick one stance that benefitted me the most and stick with it. Not reconsider anything.

I fail to see what's so difficult about faking that.


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#491 2020-06-08 14:35:49

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I fail to see, what further discussion regardibg this topic will achieve.

@Jawapa. Are we voting Task or Shadow then?


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#492 2020-06-08 14:36:11

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Faking who you are is a major point of being mafia, after all.


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#493 2020-06-08 14:50:41

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I'm in a terrible spot


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#494 2020-06-08 14:55:20

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I think we stand to learn the most shadow

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#495 2020-06-08 14:55:49

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

!lynch Taskmanager

I don't trust him


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#496 2020-06-08 14:55:59

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Pqwerty wrote:

If I understand this correctly, you were okay with lynching Andy and you also thought Gabriel shouldn’t be carried into the late game because he’s lurking. You also say it would not be the worst thing to happen if we mislynched someone, so even if Andy ended up flipping town, we’d still be okay.

yep

Pqwerty wrote:

So, correct me if I’m wrong, you didn’t lynch Andy because he was going to be lynched anyway? So, in some parallel universe where the Andy wagon didn’t get much traction, you would have switched your vote to Andy?

yep because he was acting clearly scummy

Pqwerty wrote:

Is it possible that you actually did this because you weren’t trying to draw any attention to yourself by changing your vote at the last minute, because you are either the vig or scum and neither of them wants attention? Or is that too big of an assumption?

partly because i didnt care, partly because i checked the thread for a very brief period of time in the middle of doing something else, and partly because hopping on the wagons late is frowned upon

Pqwerty wrote:

So, if we look back at this post, right, you say “we have a considerable chance of striking the milkman right now”. And this struck me as odd because my gut reaction was “why does this guy think Shadow is milkman? Is that some kind of insider information?” But as I said, both mafia wouldn’t claim and cc the vig slot. So, I asked you why you thought Shadow was the milkman, and you said

Pqwerty wrote:

I still don’t understand what you mean, but let’s see if I can piece this together. If we look at point b) for lynching Shadow today, you say that you can resolve the Luka problem. Is it safe to say you think Shadow and Luka are the mafia? And if you’re saying Shadow is the milkman, then are you saying that Luka is the goon? I feel like you’re trying to say that because you think Shadow is mafia, they have a 50% shot of being milkman. But I think my misunderstanding stems from the fact that you lean towards the 50%. How do you lean between two probabilities? Does that mean you think it’s more likely Shadow is mafia, and because of that, there’s probably a 50% chance of flipping mafia? Is that what you’re saying? Again, correct me if I’m wrong. I’m trying to understand so we can stop our chain of misunderstanding.

if we lynch a random irrelevant person instead of shadow today, the chance we hit milk man is abysmal, its still not 0% but its like 1/10 maybe?
if we lynch shadow, the chance is 33%, or 50% if we dismiss the possibility of him being SK
thats it, thats all the math here

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Here’s an plan.
We let Shadow/Task both live. And ask them both to find the most likely candidate for their CC’s mafia teammate. And lynch whoever’s got the most convincing arguments.

this plan is DUMB because we are way less likely to hit the milk man this way, increasing their chances to use the recruit ability
if we lynch shadow today he MIGHT be the milk man and thats a huge win for us
im NOT saying he DEFINITELY IS the milk man, but odds are considerable

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

@Shadow
@Task

Who do you believe are the likely teammates to the confirmed mafia FYPOV?

if it's not luka then i dont know

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Let's be honest here, if Task/Luka504 was a team they would 100% murder Peace.

or you're the SK and you killed peace to use this against either luka or myself :flush:

mrjawapa wrote:

Why would task counter claim shadow? Shadows wagon was already moving along

it wasn't really
norboy started doubting himself and unvoted (#401)
and the general gray mass of the people either didn't care or didn't seem convinced by your findings because nobody was voting
so i claimed to give more people confidence on voting shadow
are you seriously going to let a cornered scum that got CC'd on top of that to convince you they're town?


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#497 2020-06-08 14:56:09

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

*from shadow

!vote shadow

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#498 2020-06-08 14:57:45

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

TaskManager wrote:

are you seriously going to let a cornered scum that got CC'd on top of that to convince you they're town?

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Idk what to do

Why can't I just be a vanilla townie


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#499 2020-06-08 15:00:54

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:
!lynch Taskmanager

I don't trust him

I dont trust you.


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#500 2020-06-08 15:02:41

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Hi friends I’m so sorry I haven’t posted I went on a short vacation and didn’t expect it to line up with this game but I’m on my way back home today and I’ll be able to read through everything and give my input.


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