Mafia 40 - Russian Roulette Mafia Victory!

Norwee · 2020-01-24 00:15:35

Different55 wrote:

Literally no point in townclaiming. You forced everyone to claim right now, we'd have 13 vanilla townies. Claiming makes no sense in this game.

But do you think it's scummy?

TaskManager · 2020-01-24 00:26:35

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Literally no point in townclaiming. You forced everyone to claim right now, we'd have 13 vanilla townies. Claiming makes no sense in this game.
But do you think it's scummy?

I think it very much could be

Norwee · 2020-01-24 00:34:43

TaskManager wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Literally no point in townclaiming. You forced everyone to claim right now, we'd have 13 vanilla townies. Claiming makes no sense in this game.
But do you think it's scummy?
I think it very much could be

It sounds disingenuous coming from the person who has the most to gain from the wagon being redirected today.

Norwee · 2020-01-24 01:24:27

I’d prefer to wait longer. But 24 hours isn’t a long time. And if you want to set up a counterwagon that’s vital.
I just don’t trust this.

Vote Crybaby

Norwee · 2020-01-24 01:37:32

Not feeling good about Mutant honestly.

BuzzerBee · 2020-01-24 01:49:32

I’m gonna just

!vote 2B55B5G TNG

because in this setup reads are everything and TNG seems to be making posts that prevent solid reads

mutantdevle · 2020-01-24 01:50:41

My last post was about 24 hours ago. I've skim read some stuff but not all of it. So this is a post saying please don't be mean to me Kira, I'm going to bed now, but will post substantial stuff in the morning in like 8-10 hours.

TaskManager · 2020-01-24 03:33:30

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Literally no point in townclaiming. You forced everyone to claim right now, we'd have 13 vanilla townies. Claiming makes no sense in this game.
But do you think it's scummy?
I think it very much could be
It sounds disingenuous coming from the person who has the most to gain from the wagon being redirected today.

And that comment sounds disingenuous coming from the person whom I voted
I see no town motivation behind claiming the only claimable role in this setup
scum crybaby could say "if you want to lynch me thats ok" to seem townish and ready to sarcfice for the town but then he reminds us that he would flip town and therefore still tries to push us towards not going through with such wagon
he tried to bluff but did not want to risk too much and tried to make sure we dont actually do it
at least thats my view of that whole statement in crybaby's post

ShadowsEdge · 2020-01-24 03:58:51

Here's my take. Norwegian sus, TaskManager townish.

Norwegian has struck me in an odd way for most of this game, and it's not just because he stole my Game Narrator title (definitely not salty). So I backread, and some of the posts just seemed useless to me. Skipping over the **** phase, #16 seems like hessitation right after being voted by TaskManager. Sure, it's an early vote, so it probably caught Norwegian off guard, but still something to note. #30 strikes me in an odd direction, because a majority of the post is integrated on the mechanics of the game. And while that's still an important factor to note, to point out which side the game is favored towards is an odd mention for an early post. On that note, it was the first substantial post they made, and most of the information was mechanic based, which just seems to me like an easy way to gather town points without actually providing information. #67 is combatting to his point, I don't think many people have scumread him, since Taskmanager made an easy scum target for instavoting. So his point that townreading him usually indicates him as scum is a slight notion to be more wary of him. Another thing I would like to point out is that Norwegian this game sort of reminds me of how he targetted me in Universe Mafia, unrelenting suspicions on an easy target. Norwegian also switched to vote for Crybaby over something minute, for simply Crybaby claiming that it would be a mislynch. To me just seems like a way to get off the heat from the mislynch. I also agree with many of the points TaskManager made (specifically about #96), but I wanted to make this more about my own observations.

Now onto why I think Taskmanager is Town. For one, we know there are multiple Scum teams, each scum team has two players in it, and in order for them to win they would need to have at least one of their scum partners alive. Their wincon isn't tied to the other team. Hence, Taskmanager's obligation to rather focus on Norwegian rather than prove his own innocence is an odd move to make if he were Mafia. I'm not saying it disproves him as Mafia, since in Nomination Mafia I had reason to believe he was Town for a similar reason, and he ended up being scum. But in this case it's also simply because of aligned intentions. I put Taskmanager as Townish, instead of Town, also because I don't want to say he's fully Town yet in case of a Nomination Mafia play.

Plus, counter wagons are cool.

!vote NorwegianboyEE

We'll see where this goes.

mutantdevle

Different55 · 2020-01-24 04:11:43

IMO Norboy is acting kind of the same almost reckless way he did when he was an inno child

Onjit

2b55b5g · 2020-01-24 06:42:30

I’m gonna participate more in Day 2. A holiday just started for me.

Tbh I’m getting dragged into different directions when reading the posts, don’t really have my own thoughts for now.

I think Task doesn’t care about him being lynched because he thought there’s no way he can be saved? The votecount was literally 1-1-3 until a bunch of votes came out.

Crybaby’s post about him being inactive is a bit weird. Yea I know I’m restating what Norwegianboy said but meh. When Crybaby added something like ‘though it’ll be a mislynch’, I felt weird with it. Why did he need to state that when he could’ve said ‘lynch me if you think it helps’ or something like that?

Mutant and Norboy doesn’t give me scummy vibes.

Processor made 3 posts only but he gives me a townish vibe.

Peace is a little suspicious to me

peace wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
That's a scummy thing to say
Peace/crybaby mafia team?
how cn tou think im scum if i made only 1 **** post and went to bed holy **** jawapa i wanted to give you a pass wiht the vote on me because i can understand it a very little so i was like ok ill vote task first but don tlet me rethink it
wwhen i come home from work ill place my vote

Is it just me or this is a bit over-defensive?

I’ll put my vote soon.

2b55b5g · 2020-01-24 06:57:40

ShadowsEdge wrote:

#67 is combatting to his point, I don't think many people have scumread him, since Taskmanager made an easy scum target for instavoting. So his point that townreading him usually indicates him as scum is a slight notion to be more wary of him.

I think Norwegianboy specifically meant Mutant townreading or scumreading him, not many people scumreading him.

Minimania · 2020-01-24 07:14:39

Your boy is home, time to start cracking some heads.

Onjit · 2020-01-24 07:29:11

also kira

roulette is spelled with one L not two

also the rotting plum colour you chose for the mod text still sucks

Minimania · 2020-01-24 08:30:16

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TaskManager wrote:

game effectively started and im going to effectively get things effectively going
!vote NorwegianboyEE

My activity effectively started and I'm going to effectively get this post going

Besides being a really stupid move, I see two possibilities for what this is. 1) scum ratting another scum out for memes at the beginning of the game as some sort of (really bad) strategy, or 2) you made the post without looking at the setup so basically this is the basis for my entire read against TaskManager.

mrjawapa wrote:

!vote peace

Jawapa you like to play in ways that make me **** my pants and copying TaskManager isn't doing you any favors.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

So ignoring those losers. Be careful not to place your vote yet, since it can't be taken back until a lynch happens and the day ends.

Epic timing my guy. Not only did you miss the mark by two posts, but one of them was a vote for you. I see this as you putting a bandaid on the "booboo" TaskManager is pretending to make by voting "without having read the setup". Essentially, I'm saying your post here is fashioned to make it look like TaskManager made a misplay on accident, when it could be on purpose as a part of some strategy to separate the both from each other.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
game effectively started and im going to effectively get things effectively going
!vote NorwegianboyEE
Question, is this type of playstyle where you don't care at all about making the right choice (as evidenced by voting someone who hasn't even posted yet) on day 1 going to be indicative of your future play in this game?

This post further supports my previous statement, not because he addresses TaskManager, but rather because he refuses to address Jawapa. (Consider this the only reason I don't scumread Jawapa currently).

TaskManager wrote:

also worry not, i know that i cant revote now, in fact i deliberately joined the game intended to vote someone asap because of this mechanic

Here is a bit of counter-evidence to my earlier theory, this post where he claims to know what the setup was entirely before making his post. I still have an explanation for why he could still be scum, however. a) The post could just straight up be a lie, a bandaid of sorts that Norwegianboy told him to post (interestingly enough, this post was made sometime after he already made a post, did he just not think about responding to what Norboy said until after his first post... right after he responded to Norboy's post? b) He could be telling the truth but the situation is simply just fabricated and not a coverup of a misplay.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

How is that beneficial to town in any way other than making yourself (if town) seem suspicious for no reason? And why did you choose to vote me? Was there a specific reason for that?

More distancing, looks like they're just setting up a narrative.

Different55 wrote:

It's a ploy to make him seem less scummy because scum wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves or something idk

Ahhh thank you Diff, your explanation seems very logical and coming straight from the mind of a Mafia member. Good thing you totally aren't one.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I was also considering that it might possibly be co-ordinated because: "ThErEs nO wAy ScUm WoUlD dO tHaT!1!" but it could also just be town trolling, it definitely doesn't make me feel better about them though.

Yeah, I'm considering this possibility too...

TaskManager wrote:

youre first on the playerlist and you always grow mad over mafia games

This is a really **** excuse to vote for Norwegianboy when Peace exists in this game

Processor wrote:

I'm ok with getting rid of Task
They lack the motivation to catch scum
Jawapa is more likely to just be playing idiotically (cf. last game)
So I'm giving them a pass this time
But Task... He is a smart boy

Even though this post is slightly suspicious, I don't get any vibes from Task that scream "I'm baiting the scum, just watch me" none of his posts came across that way, unlike a post like this:

Processor wrote:

Give me attention

Which seems more geared towards starting some sort of conversation (though it ended in hey there big boi)

mrjawapa wrote:

Processor wrote:
Jawapa is more likely to just be playing idiotically (cf. last game)
So I'm giving them a pass this time
I know exactly what I'm doing.
I played GOOD last game. Some of you are just not as good as you think you are.
Obligatory, "it's D1 ****-posting... stop taking it so seriously."

1. You don't seem to know what you're doing, but if you really actually do, then you should probably say what you're doing
2. You played terribly last game, even if I didn't play well either.
3. Oh okay, then I'll assume the rest of your posts mean nothing from here on out, unless I come across something juicy.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

A bit disappointed the "2 mafia teams" setup was chosen over one 3 man mafia team, i feel like the game is more strongly scum favoured now since town can’t properly detect towniness from scum lynches because of paranoia that the people wagoning could be scum from the other team. So definitely complicating things.

Do you prefer coordinating with all of your teammates?

I'm sure scum team that doesn't wanna get mislynched by the other scum team would like to have some sort of way to tell them not to vote for them. What you mentioned is a double-edged sword against the Mafia, so calling the game strongly-scum flavored either seems misinformed or misleading.

BuzzerBee wrote:

This is my first mafia game on these forums so take this with a grain of salt but eleizibeth just commenting “seecond” seems like a quick way to get your name on the thread without attracting too much attention. Could say the same about peace’s “first” but that seems more innocent than “second” somehow

I don't think you're scum Buzzerbee but I wouldn't look too far into **** unless they actually gave some sort of information.

Different55 wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
Obligatory, "it's D1 ****-posting... stop taking it so seriously."
The lack of night phase and permavotes have kinda stamped that out for me idk about the rest of you.

Yes we can all relate because we are all completely used to doing nothing in the night phase, good thing you as a definite vanilla townie would not have had anything to do during the night phase if there were one.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I’m willing to vote Task purely for the OMGUS assuming i get no better leads today.

Yeah I'll keep this in mind buddy.

BuzzerBee wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Hiya. Do you have experience from other sites/RL or is this the first time?
I used to play Epicmafia ALL the time years ago but I definitely don't play often anymore

So basically what we should do is not underestimate you, got it.

TaskManager wrote:

But then you're no better than me! Heck, you could easily be a scum taking the opportunity to wagon a townie that made themselves look scummy
I'm sure it's what is going to happen anyway, i.e. scum grabbing such opportunity soon

Haha the irony...

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

But that could easily be what you were planning all along, doing something scummy as scum intentionally then crying foul when townies want to vote you for your obviously scummy action by claiming it is what "they" want.

hahahahaha.......

Also I'd just like to thank Diff for wooting this post. Completely normal thing for any town to do.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

And it's true what Processor said, you're a smart boy. So i could easily imagine scum!you instavoting someone just for the memes of doing it as mafia and then bragging about it later.

It's like you're just spoonfeeding us your guys' strategy at this point.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I won't especially fight for a Task lynch today since i want to sort everyone else, but i wouldn't necessarily oppose it either.

So basically this post is setting up the expectation that you're gonna be flimsy with how you vote today in order to lessen suspicions on you for when you inevitably don't vote for your scum partner.

TaskManager wrote:

Anyone could be grabbing this opportunity not just you

You can say that again!

TaskManager wrote:

Maybe it's out of character for town!me to do that, yeah, but we haven't played this mechanic before, thus a new approach

Sure, blame it on the mechanic you totally didn't claim to already completely know about before joining the game

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I don't get this point, are you saying we should townread you for your pointless action? That anyone who thinks it's suspicious are "scum grabbing the opportunity"? Sure there most definitely will be scum on anyone's wagon since there are two mafia teams. But it doesn't absolve yourself from being mafia.

Kinda weird how you chose you completely ignore his other point as if it wasn't suspicious at all.

TaskManager wrote:

I never said you should townread me bro
I'm merely pointing out that scum could grab this opportunity to jump in and that I'm not necessarily talking about you

1. Good cause I'm definitely not townreading you
2. Good thing you made sure to specifically tell us that Norboy is someone you weren't necessarily talking about, that way we can be sure that you and him are as far apart as possible in this game.

mutantdevle wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
game effectively started and im going to effectively get things effectively going
!vote NorwegianboyEE
Question, is this type of playstyle where you don't care at all about making the right choice (as evidenced by voting someone who hasn't even posted yet) on day 1 going to be indicative of your future play in this game?
This is a red flag for me for TaskManager; however, I think jawapa's early vote is valid.

I share this feeling.

mutantdevle wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
youre first on the playerlist and you always grow mad over mafia games
If he always grows mad over mafia games, then how does voting him help you solve his alignment? Voting someone to gauge their reaction is valid game solving. But if your expectation was that he'd get mad, then clearly you had no intention of game solving.

mutantdevle wrote:

No. Why lynch both when we could lynch 1 and then lynch another the next day? There are no night kills, there are no night actions. If a situation is TvS then we can lynch the scum first to have a better outcome than lynching both at once or we lynch the town first and have the same ultimate result as lynching both at once. There is no punishment for waiting.

mutantdevle wrote:

peace is town so far. I'm thinking different is town. Norwegianboy gives me scummy vibes.

My current intent is to vote for taskmanager. If I do not like his next few posts then I'm going to vote for him.

Now these are the posts of someone who seems like they are trying to solve the game. And yeah, Diff is totally town.

TaskManager wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
If he always grows mad over mafia games, then how does voting him help you solve his alignment?
it doesnt but i found it funny
i want to see who'd follow through with either side of the wagon and what would be their reason for doing so

Bored of **** with peace?

TaskManager wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
i want to see who'd follow through with either side of the wagon and what would be their reason for doing so
And what conclusions have you made thus far?
we're not even 24 hours into the day, could you not

Yeah could you not try to solve the game man? You're **** up all my logic bro

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Protip: if you townread me i'm scum. If you scumread me i'm town.

Scum Detector is going crazy on this one

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I'm used to being scumread so i just take it for granted lmao. I was gonna ask why exactly you scumread me, but i guess you didn't so whatevs.

Pssh, yeah, it's all cool. No need to suspect you .

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Why did you lie about that though. I usually think you’re a honest player as town so i thought you were genuinely scumreading me. Hence i was a but confused there.

Is this your first time playing with Mutant like Jesus if you knew anything about him you'd know he can be very dishonest when he wants to be

TaskManager wrote:

there wasn't even enough time for some people to take any stance on all of this, 2b buzzer and ele for example
so not much to draw conclusions from

Nonsense

Crybaby wrote:

Hot take early prediction: The Mafia are Norboy, Task, Mutant, and some other fourth person.

Update to this: Take Mutant off the list, for now.

TaskManager wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Hot take early prediction: The Mafia are Norboy, Task, Mutant, and some other fourth person.
heck i would be proud of myself if i legit pulled that off while being teammates with norboy

Yeah if you could achieve that that would be awesome!!!

peace wrote:

alos if you woudl have to devide the scum teams hwo woudlbe on A/B an dhwo woudl be on A/B? (nto that th A/B matters but who do you htink are pared

Norboy and Task are paired.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Task explained his vote tho. Did you not read.
TaskManager wrote:
i want to see who'd follow through with either side of the wagon and what would be their reason for doing so
Although at last it was quite useless because no one joined the wagons

This post alone pretty much makes me scumread 2b. TaskManager's logic was flawed and tore open by Mutant. Didn't you read?

Different55 wrote:

Norboy usually gets himself killed way later in the game after he's made 500 suspicious posts in a row. You opened the game with an unremovable vote for him.
That said even as scum that's a dumb move. If you're trying to get a townie lynched you picked a bad one. Norboy doesn't need any help getting mislynched.

Hahaha just kidding this post makes me scumread Different. Lick my pants Diff

Okay but really, it looks like you've realized that Norboy and Task are the other scum team (thank god for that woot on their post you made earlier) and are trying to defend Norboy.

mrjawapa wrote:

I'm betting norboy and task are a scum team.

Dude this is a golden post, best post 10/10.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
I'm betting norboy and task are a scum team.
Based on what?

Yes ask him for the reasoning behind his reads but not mine

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Also you kinda wasted your vote on Peace already, so you don't really have a say anymore Jawapa.

As Task put it, scum flag. Just because he can no longer vote does not mean everything he has to say is completely invalid.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
Plot twist: I was lying about lying as I was interested as to what your reaction would be. Particularly, what you'd have to say about making a statement that turned out to be advising me that I should be scum reading you.

To clarify: I do find you scummy.
To clarify, i was worried about the fact that you were actually townreading me, thus proving my theory meant i was scum. Because i usually bother with popularity contests and staying unlynched when i'm scum. So you townreading me would obviously expose me as such. But realizing that you were actually double lying means my theory is true because a scumread Norwegianboy is a town Norwegianboy. And that's just how it is.

Ah yes, this will fix all the scummy posts you made earlier, no doubt. That and Diff protecting you.

mutantdevle wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Hot take early prediction: The Mafia are Norboy, Task, Mutant, and some other fourth person.
heck i would be proud of myself if i legit pulled that off while being teammates with norboy
I accept the possibility of both Task and Norboy being scum. I don't accept the possibility that they are on the same scum team.

This is interesting, why not?

TaskManager wrote:

how many layers of irony are you on
mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
there wasn't even enough time for some people to take any stance on all of this, 2b buzzer and ele for example
so not much to draw conclusions from
You don't need everyone to take a stance in order to make conclusions. You can make conclusions on those who already have taken stances. I'm asking you for those conclusions.
diff seems to pop in and make random comments about norboy just to seem active, i dont agree with the post where he says norboy gets himself killed deep into the game, that is factually wrong
ele is sheeping and only made a post to avoid getting prodded, i dont remember who pointed this out but her initial post could be perceived as a "see, im active and posting! now bye im gonna lurk", though that may not necessarily be the intent
norboy: i feel like town!norboy could have made a more fierce response to my vote in his very first posts in this thread, instead he just shrugs it off
im not sure what to think about that though, i know how town!norboy would rather prove his point than survive a wagon
i also dont like how he twisted my words on one occasion and i dont understand what is he trying to achieve by posting memes in the thread
this post is a red flag for me

1. Yeah, Diff just seems really shady, doesn't he?
2. True, Norboy tends to get himself killed at the start of the game. He's done it at least twice in memory.
3. Judging by how Kira pinged Elei to tell her she was about to be prodded on Discord, I'd agree and say it seems like she's just trying to avoid being modkilled.
4. i lov meme

Different55 wrote:

I mean I just spit out a random number but if you want to go reading too far into that be my guest. That changes literally nothing about the *actual* point I was making which was that Norboy would be an odd person for scum to try to mislynch since he has a long and glorious history of doing that all by himself.

If only he were clearly doing that this game

Different55 wrote:

Didn't say it was town indicative it's just Something That You Usually Do That You Are Not Doing Currently. And the people want to know WHY

Asking the same question Mutant already asked twice doesn't really constitute as much of a post of substance

eleizibeth wrote:

yeah, i did only post to avoid getting prodded, Kira just pinged me like 16 minutes before i posted that saying that he was gonna prod me, so i tried to post before the 24 hours, but i was 1 minute late, still didn't get prodded though so success

Oh **** I was right

(by the by I'm making this post by going through the entire thread, I've only skimmed through it before starting the post so naturally I missed posts like this)

Dude I'm **** tired and don't feel like finishing up right now, it's almost 11:30 pm and I want to go to bed but tl;dr I think the scum is divided between Norboy, Task, Diff, and 2b.

Oh ps here's the assignment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PBv … sp=sharing

I'm going to sleep good night

2b55b5g

2b55b5g · 2020-01-24 09:04:12

Crybaby wrote:

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Task explained his vote tho. Did you not read.
TaskManager wrote:
i want to see who'd follow through with either side of the wagon and what would be their reason for doing so
Although at last it was quite useless because no one joined the wagons
This post alone pretty much makes me scumread 2b. TaskManager's logic was flawed and tore open by Mutant. Didn't you read?

Again, I said I wasn't saying that Task's random vote was correct. I was simply pointing out to peace that Task did explain his vote.

Norwee · 2020-01-24 10:12:21

Another **** case from Crybaby where he makes up an conclusion in his head from the get-go and then finds posts to support the narrative by inserting sarcastic quips and lolsmileys to mask the fact that he’s got no real argument in there.
You’re either scum not even trying or town that thinks you’re super clever when you’re not.

Norwee · 2020-01-24 10:21:20

And why did you post the assignment Crybaby. Nobody cares about that. We just want to see you show proof that you’re town. And what you’ve done so far has been so bad.

Norwee · 2020-01-24 10:55:33

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Now onto why I think Taskmanager is Town. For one, we know there are multiple Scum teams, each scum team has two players in it, and in order for them to win they would need to have at least one of their scum partners alive. Their wincon isn't tied to the other team. Hence, Taskmanager's obligation to rather focus on Norwegian rather than prove his own innocence is an odd move to make if he were Mafia. I'm not saying it disproves him as Mafia, since in Nomination Mafia I had reason to believe he was Town for a similar reason, and he ended up being scum. But in this case it's also simply because of aligned intentions. I put Taskmanager as Townish, instead of Town, also because I don't want to say he's fully Town yet in case of a Nomination Mafia play.

I agree with your assessment of Task possibly being town.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Another thing I would like to point out is that Norwegian this game sort of reminds me of how he targetted me in Universe Mafia, unrelenting suspicions on an easy target. Norwegian also switched to vote for Crybaby over something minute, for simply Crybaby claiming that it would be a mislynch. To me just seems like a way to get off the heat from the mislynch.

No, i'm not showing any signs of "unrelenting suspicion" on Taskmanager. And i'm not switching over Crybaby for something minute, i've got a decent lead on him and if you can't see that then i've got no choice but to suspect you as well. Do you think Crybaby is town?

ShadowsEdge · 2020-01-24 14:36:02

Crybaby is null, they're trying to participate in conversation, but instead of participating in the already conversing convo, they chose to go with previous convos and make conversation with that rather than the current conversation. And while that is something they usually do as town, I still don't think it's all that helpful, hence why I'm leaving null. Now onto why I think you switched over something minute. You switched over to Crybaby over him saying "It would be a mislynch." Sure, it's a random statement, but taking that and using it to redirect your lynch is a weird stance. Taskmanager rando voted, and you spent ~6 pages building up evidence against him, until just suddenly changing course onto Crybaby after Crybaby made that slight comment about the lynch, which isn't even as viable of evidence.

The fact that you want to suspect me if my reads don't align with you just make a greater sense of my scumread on you.

And yes, you have shown signs of unrelenting suspicion, up until now. I haven't seen much posts from you where you consider the possibility of Taskmanager being Town, until in response to my post.

TaskManager

Kira · 2020-01-24 14:43:03

[1] Peace - Jawapa
[2] Norwegianboy - TaskManager, ShadowsEdge
[1] Crybaby - Norwegianboy
[1] 2B TNG - Buzzerbee
[3] Taskmanager - Crybaby, Peace, Processor

Majority is 7

Remember that:

- mutantdevle
- 2B55B5G TNG
- Different55
- Eleizibeth
- Onjit

You have 8 hours to vote unless majority has been reached.

Norwee · 2020-01-24 14:58:26

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Now onto why I think you switched over something minute. You switched over to Crybaby over him saying "It would be a mislynch."

That's a lie. Why would you lie?
It was a factor in my scumread, but not the entire reason. I don't like Crybaby's play at all in this game, he had the time to make joke posts proving he did at least spend time to read people's posts, but he had nothing substantial to say until now. And then he made excuses about his play. I don't see town him doing something like that when in earlier games as town he has had days where he **** and doesn't ever bother making excuses for it. But here he made a huge block of text boiling down to: "don't lynch me for this guys, i'm town. This is a mislynch you know. I don't have time, i'll prove it. Here's a picture of my assignment."
Yet you boiled down everything i said to me switching my vote because of a single phrase from Crybaby. This is disingenuous and i'm not sure you even believe what you yourself is saying here. It is also funny you mention how i'm:

ShadowsEdge wrote:

To me just seems like a way to get off the heat from the mislynch.

When that is exactly what your play could be constructed as doing. Townreading Task because you know he's most likely town and then pushing suspicion on me so i can be painted as suspicious for tommorow.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Sure, it's a random statement, but taking that and using it to redirect your lynch is a weird stance. Taskmanager rando voted, and you spent ~6 pages building up evidence against him, until just suddenly changing course onto Crybaby after Crybaby made that slight comment about the lynch, which isn't even as viable of evidence.

What evidence? I've been speculating and questioning. There's no way you're sincere about this point. Please point to me where exactly i am "building evidence" and "relentlessly pushing" as opposed to questioning, speculating or making memes.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

The fact that you want to suspect me if my reads don't align with you just make a greater sense of my scumread on you.

It's not just about your reads buddy.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

And yes, you have shown signs of unrelenting suspicion, up until now. I haven't seen much posts from you where you consider the possibility of Taskmanager being Town, until in response to my post.

Not opposed. Yes, unrelenting? No.
I engage people with pressure, this should be nothing new for you. And i am entirely capable of doing it until i feel like they have spilled their guts and been honest. Besides, i never acted like my Task read was final. If it was i would have voted him today, not Crybaby. I'm not fully townreading Task btw, i can still see it as scummy behaviour. But i believe Crybaby was much more likely to actually flip scum. Hence i vote there.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I won't especially fight for a Task lynch today since i want to sort everyone else, but i wouldn't necessarily oppose it either.

This "unrelenting" word and further phrasing from you is used not to solve my alignment but purely to paint me as a scummy individual. You haven't shown any signs of engaging me on my behavior until you just vote me out of the blue with your semi-case. It is very scummy and i will most definitely vote you tomorrow if i get the chance.

TaskManager · 2020-01-24 15:03:17

oh god oh fukc

@crybaby i think most of these points have been talked through so if you want me to answer something in particular then point me to that one, cba writing respones to all of it

Crybaby wrote:

Sure, blame it on the mechanic you totally didn't claim to already completely know about before joining the game

what was your train of thought when you wrote this?
i was aware of the vote mechanic at the moment of signing up for the game and at that moment i was considering trying a new approach because of that mechanic

the abundant sarcasm in your top tier scumhunting does you no credit btw

TaskManager · 2020-01-24 15:06:21

Crybaby wrote:

This is a really **** excuse to vote for Norwegianboy when Peace exists in this game

so me not voting peace is scum indicative you think?

ShadowsEdge · 2020-01-24 15:28:25

Unrelenting (adj.) - Not yielding in strength, severity, or determination.

Just so were on the same page. Unrelenting doesn't mean that you're being aggressive, it just means that you refused to back down from the suspicion. Up until now where you actually showed signs of believing that he was Townish.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

That's a lie. Why would you lie?
It was a factor in my scumread, but not the entire reason. I don't like Crybaby's play at all in this game, he had the time to make joke posts proving he did at least spend time to read people's posts, but he had nothing substantial to say until now. And then he made excuses about his play. I don't see town him doing something like that when in earlier games as town he has had days where he **** and doesn't ever bother making excuses for it. But here he made a huge block of text boiling down to: "don't lynch me for this guys, i'm town. This is a mislynch you know. I don't have time, i'll prove it. Here's a picture of my assignment."
Yet you boiled down everything i said to me switching my vote because of a single phrase from Crybaby. This is disingenuous and i'm not sure you even believe what you yourself is saying here.

It's not a lie. It's my own opinion. Inactivity alone cannot be the fuel to the fire, and your main reasoning for switching over to Crybaby was ultimately the piece that I mentioned. That's why I named it as the main piece of evidence, because while you did suspect Crybaby before that, it was never anything severe, and only light suspicions. But after that piece by Crybaby, you switched gears from focusing on Taskmanager to focusing on Crybaby. That's why I call it minute. Thereafter you tried presenting reasons to prove why you switched to Crybaby, and took less time to place a vote on Crybaby than you did on Taskmanager, whom you never actually placed a vote on. You're trying to make me doubt my own opinion, because I'm combatting your own, why is that?

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

When that is exactly what your play could be constructed as doing. Townreading Task because you know he's most likely town and then pushing suspicion on me so i can be painted as suspicious for tommorow.

A. I considered yours to be redirecting, because you brought up Crybaby out of the blue to mark the waters for their lynch. People have brought up suspicions, but no one went so far as to lynch them, and it again, reminds me of how you played in Universe Mafia. The reason I call it "Redirecting your lynch" isn't because you're pushing for people to lynch Crybaby, it's simply because you spent a majority of the game suspecting Taskmanager to simply throw it away on Crybaby. And B, in that standard, mine isn't structured as such because I will admit to my inactivity. I never made a clear stance, and I voted you to put the pressure on you. Besides, following Taskmanager's opinion is an interesting side that I wanted to explore.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

What evidence? I've been speculating and questioning. There's no way you're sincere about this point. Please point to me where exactly i am "building evidence" and "relentlessly pushing" as opposed to questioning, speculating or making memes.

In case you havent realized, questioning and speculating IS building up evidence. What purpose would you have to speculate and question, to not build up evidence? That's literally the point of doing it. And on the second point, you twisted my words, hence why I made the original statement. I said Relentlessly suspecting, not relentlessly pushing. And I have no need to do so, because you've just stated that you have been speculating and questioning. But if you'd like me to go back and point out some parts for you I'd be happy to do that.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

It's not just about your reads buddy.

"i've got a decent lead on him and if you can't see that then i've got no choice but to suspect you as well."

Well what do you expect me to believe when this is the statement you made about suspecting me?

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Not opposed. Yes, unrelenting? No.
I engage people with pressure, this should be nothing new for you. And i am entirely capable of doing it until i feel like they have spilled their guts and been honest. Besides, i never acted like my Task read was final. If it was i would have voted him today, not Crybaby. I'm not fully townreading Task btw, i can still see it as scummy behaviour. But i believe Crybaby was much more likely to actually flip scum. Hence i vote there.

Again, it is unrelenting, as I made in the first part of this post. I know engaging with pressure is your playstyle, but that's not the point. The point is that you refuse to acknowledge another side, which resembled how you targetted me in Universe Mafia, and why I find you suspicious. I followed the suspicion to look towards other places where that suspicion shone through.

I full well know that voting you likely won't change the wagon, but it generates conversation, and forces you to make acquisitions about yourself.

I would also like to point out that you said before that you considered your vote in spirit on #129. I know that's not the same as putting it in the entire way, but you were believing in your reads there as well.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

This "unrelenting" word and further phrasing from you is used not to solve my alignment but purely to paint me as a scummy individual. You haven't shown any signs of engaging me on my behavior until you just vote me out of the blue with your semi-case. It is very scummy and i will most definitely vote you tomorrow if i get the chance.

It is to solve your alignment, as I've said multiple times, it resembles your playstyle on Universe Mafia. Ironically, you find me scummy right after I present a case against you. Not because I havent been active, not because I havent actively participated in conversation, not because I never even set a stance on Taskmanager until yesterday. No, it's because I set a suspicion on you, and I chose to act on it. That's radically different than how you treated Crybaby. Would you care to explain why?

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[1] Peace - Jawapa [2] Norwegianboy - TaskManager, ShadowsEdge[1] Crybaby - Norwegianboy[1] 2B TNG - Buzzerbee[3] Taskmanager - Crybaby, Peace, Processor

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