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#526 2019-10-31 06:38:29

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
Kirby wrote:

if i somehow don't get roleblocked tonight, who should i investigate N2?

2B maybe

You are in no position to advise on who should be investigated lol.

Hhahahahahah
Look who's talking
You're in no position either cause you very well know how this will end for you


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#527 2019-10-31 06:43:33

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:

What ‘so you’re saying’ arguments are you on about

mutantdevle wrote:

Wait, so you’re saying that even upon task flipping scum you still wouldn’t trust me?

"So you're saying" arguments are very fallacious and are only really ever used in bad faith. They're used to rewrite what the other person has said to make it easier to attack; a strawman, essentially.

mutantdevle wrote:

I don’t understand what wild hypotheticals you’re referring to because everything I’ve said has been grounded.

mutantdevle wrote:

The role blocker on the other hand still has a chance of preventing a vig shot even if norboy is the doctor. He also has the added threats of preventing our doctor from saving a cop or just preventing a cop from investigating someone.

With the mafia’s night kill and the role blocker alive the mafia will be able to prevent up to 2 cops tonight from giving us any results if they get lucky in avoiding our doctor. I’d much rather play it safe and take out the role blocker than risk trying to get the doctor.

These are wild hypothetical 'what if' questions that describe scenarios that are unlikely to happen. Again, often used in bad faith because they're, in most cases, misleading.
Aside from the innocent child, the possibility for any role to screw up always exists. Cops can investigate someone who ends up dying that same night, vigis could end up shooting someone innocent, and doctors could end up saving a mafia's life from a vigi bullet.
That's the inherent risk of being a power role; you risk making things worse for your faction, and using what as grounds to lynch someone is pretty stupid.

mutantdevle wrote:

then in your very next post literally **** say you could never trust me because of my previous defence of Norwegianboy???

I literally did not do that.


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#528 2019-10-31 07:17:17

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

r £voot lukka

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#529 2019-10-31 07:23:22

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Onjit wrote:
r £voot lukka


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#530 2019-10-31 07:23:56

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

onjit I appreciate all of your contributions to this thread and i cant wait to see what you think of next

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#531 2019-10-31 08:13:46

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

I voted for nboy, kirby

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#532 2019-10-31 08:18:04

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Good morning all you wonderful people of the EE forums.


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#533 2019-10-31 08:42:53

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

peace wrote:

vote count:
task [3] mutant, norweg, ele
norweg [5] onjit, kirby luka, task, kira, [l-3]

kirby [1] norweg
about ~60 ours remain


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#534 2019-10-31 08:46:22

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

peace i voted for luka


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#535 2019-10-31 09:00:29

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

oops i missed 2 votes i have tto go now add onjit to luka and cryabby votes fo rmutant will chnage later


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#536 2019-10-31 09:32:23

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

!vote TaskManager

Why in the world would we lynch Norboy over Taskmanager? By lynching Task we will know for sure whether mutant is mafia or not. I dont like how people in my scum list are trying so hard to discredit mutant.

This is the plan: cops, d2 investigate the person below the person you investigated last night.

We lynch task, if he flips town we lynch mutant and then norboy
If he flips mafia, we lynch norboy.

I also dont like how crybaby has roleclaimed cop without it being really needed, he has just confirmed that mutant is a cop. Also mutant gets faction+role but crybaby only gets role? If task flips mafia we should also look into crybaby potentially being mafia.


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#537 2019-10-31 10:10:46

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

ZeldaXD wrote:

Also mutant gets faction+role but crybaby only gets role?

That's cause Mutant is lying

ZeldaXD wrote:

Why in the world would we lynch Norboy over Taskmanager? By lynching Task we will know for sure whether mutant is mafia or not. I dont like how people in my scum list are trying so hard to discredit mutant.

Both cases are equally worth resolving
And since Norboy has more votes I say we go for him to finally reach a consensus
Don't worry Zelda I won't be running away anytime soon
But if we lynch Norboy today and he flips scum, Mutant is almost definitely his scum buddy, and then we don't have to sacrifice myself to prove mutant's guilt
I'm not opposed to sacrificing myself, this is just a way optimize the plan

Anywayyy
We have two TvS cases
Can we settle down on one instead of trying to push both today?


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#538 2019-10-31 10:12:07

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

what the **** is this vote count
i thought ele unvoted?


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#539 2019-10-31 10:59:24

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

▼votet tkas

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#540 2019-10-31 11:17:54

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Okay so apparently I 50% trust Mutant’s claim about TaskManager being a Mafia Roleblocker, and I’m almost certain that Kirby’s investigation on Norboy is true. But I’m not sure about Crybaby’s investigation.

I think if Mutant is mafia, he wouldn’t sacrifice himself just to eliminate TaskManager, as Mutant is a very strong player. Sacrificing a strong mafia member just to eliminate a weak PR isn’t really worth it, so that’s one of the reasons why I think Mutant is genuine about his investigation.

But then I realize that roleblocker can be both town and mafia, Mutant could easily frame TaskManager using that role, so now I don’t fully trust his investigation, as Mutant could be mafia trying to frame Task.

The reason why I trust Kirby’s investigation is because he didn’t say both Norboy’s alignment and role, and of course he won’t because it’s impossible for a cop to know both things in one investigation.

I’m unsure about Crybaby. I think in common sense, it should be wise for the last cop to not reveal themselves. If Crybaby realized that, I think he wouldn’t post his results and claim, plus he was unsure if Mutant was mafia, so it was a bit weird for me.


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#541 2019-10-31 12:22:33

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

I wasnt the last cop who claimed, so


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#542 2019-10-31 12:24:18

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

the reason I was unsure about Mutant is because no other cops had claimed, so there was the right amount (3), and I dont doubt Elei for a second


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#543 2019-10-31 13:07:42

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

!prod Bimps

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#544 2019-10-31 13:25:28

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

bimps is taking a hiatus iirc

so slab or shadow can probably take his place pretty easily i think


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#545 2019-10-31 13:25:43

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

So basically flip the coin and hope that TaskManager is Mafia instead of voting for an obvious scum?

We got future Sherlock Holmes Juniors in here.

My vote will remain on Norwegianboy, and I highly advice town to keep their vote on him as well. Don’t let Mafia confuse you.

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#546 2019-10-31 13:36:46

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Kira you've been trying to lynch me since D1. Repeating it doesn't make you anymore convincing.


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#547 2019-10-31 13:46:32

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

maybe he just doesn't like you //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad


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#548 2019-10-31 13:56:29

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

I'd just like to apologise for the way I was acting last night. In that frame of mind I shouldn't have been using the forums let alone trying to play mafia. 

mutantdevle wrote:

Also can you not refer to me as Devlin it **** me off

This isn't true. Feel free to refer to me as Devlin //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue


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#549 2019-10-31 13:56:40

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

2B if you trust Kirby's claim the most then go for it and vote him up
I'm pretty sure he's mafia, and if he flips red that makes Mutant's alignment even more apparent to others. Even though I'm 100% sure mutant is scum anyway


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#550 2019-10-31 13:57:34

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:

I'd just like to apologise for the way I was acting last night. In that frame of mind I shouldn't have been using the forums let alone trying to play mafia. 

mutantdevle wrote:

Also can you not refer to me as Devlin it **** me off

This isn't true. Feel free to refer to me as Devlin //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

ok tantdev
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