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#76 2019-06-15 20:21:59

mutantdevle
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Re: Mafia 25

I believe Luka's claim to be honest.

Slabdrill's post about the mafia not being able to vote was obviously the work of some kind of role that can use the mod to make posts. Even if you're not excessively familiar with mafia and hence wouldn't have come across that kind of role before, it should have been evident from the fact he didn't use his mod colour in the post. So I do find trying to prove innocence from the announcement kinda suspect.

Luka if I was you I would have waited a decent while longer to make that claim. You've now sacrificed the chance to figure out who the mafia aren't by seeing who they mention in the PT (eg, at night when discussing who to kill). Alternatively, after figuring out who one of the mafia are then trying to figure out who the others are by how they act in the thread. But oh well, expose 1 mafia is still pretty good.


My advice to you now Luka would be to try and look through people's posts on the forums in general to see if you can figure out who any of the other members are. Also, start talking to the mafia in their chat by using that impersonation ability. Trick them, confuse them, make them not want to use the chat. Any of those would be useful. Assuming the mafia would still want to use their chat through the rest of the game, they'll certainly be killing Luka tonight. So protectives know what to do here. Additionally, if we have any roles that can communicate with someone during the night then using that to get Luka's last words and reports of what the mafia are saying during the night will also be beneficial.



Just some questions Luka. First of all, how many posts are currently in the mafia chat? I assume all of them have spoken at least once? If so, then that means we can rule out people with distinct ways of writing like peace and railmat.


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#77 2019-06-15 20:22:41

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Re: Mafia 25

RailMat wrote:

I am a town member. What can I do. Anything.  I can't kill somebody.

To clarify, are you claiming vanilla townie?


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#78 2019-06-15 20:23:25

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Re: Mafia 25

mutantdevle wrote:
RailMat wrote:

I am a town member. What can I do. Anything.  I can't kill somebody.

To clarify, are you claiming vanilla townie?

Yes I am

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#79 2019-06-15 20:24:15

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Re: Mafia 25

Railmat thats a 10/10 claim
I trust Luka's claim for now, I believe we will gain something from it regardless of NorwegianBoy's role if we lynch him. If Norwegian flips town then we can go for Luka and we'll still get a scum player lynched
It's a risky move and I don't see why would someone fake it right at the start of the game

I will stay my vote for now cause we still got time for discussion (naturally)


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#80 2019-06-15 20:24:23

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Re: Mafia 25

ILikeTofuuJoe has been prodded for inactivity. They will be replaced if they do not respond within 26 hours.

I will be a bit more inactive for the next few hours. If anything is needed, ping me on discord.


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#81 2019-06-15 20:27:48

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Re: Mafia 25

All right, I want to share more information that I have.

In regards to my role, I have more powers than just being able to view the mafia chat. For one, I can send anonymous messages to as many people as I wish. This is easily provable, so if you want me to, I could do that today.
My final power is something I'll keep to myself, for now at least. It could help me bait out the mafia sometime in the future.

I'd also like to make a request: If there are any protection roles, please protect me during the night. By doing aaying what I said I've definitely become the mafia's primary target.

In regards to the mafia chat, there are four people who I'm very confident are not the mafia. They might be an evil neutral role (like a serial killer), but not the mafia.
Those three are:
a) Peace
Nobody in the mafia chat writes in the same way that peace writes, so it's safe to assume that peace isn't one of them.

b) TaskManager and Mutantdevle
In the mafia chat, before the game even started, it was discussed how these two should be the first people to be killed during the night. Might be a fake-out to trick lurking spies, but I doubt it.

c) ILikeTofuJoe
One of the mafia members (dot) said that as part of his win condition, ILikeTofuJoe has to survive until the end of the game.


I also know what mafia roles there are. From what I know, there are only three mafia members. I've copied these from the mafia chat directly, because no way in hell am I paraphrasing all of this.

Mr X is a Time Manipulator

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dot hasn't stated the name of his role.

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Quintet is the Butcher

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#82 2019-06-15 20:35:23

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Re: Mafia 25

You guys are trying way too hard on Day 1, while i'm sitting here drinking my Earl Grey tea with some butter biscuits. A pleasure.

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#83 2019-06-15 20:36:08

Luka504
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Re: Mafia 25

Oh, I missed two people in my "likely not mafia" list.

d) EEJoranasc
In the mafia chat, Joranasc was among TaskManager and MutantDevle on the list of 'people who should be killed first'. I forgot to mention him.

e) Jawapa
The mafia said that Jawapa is likely to be inactive in the game, so he shouldn't be one of their first targets.


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#84 2019-06-15 20:44:50

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Re: Mafia 25

Thats just day 1, so it's still early to claim or lynch imo. I'm gonna see next day. O cmon me being killed first? That's sad

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#85 2019-06-15 20:48:01, last edited by Tomahawk (2019-06-17 16:21:34)

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Re: Mafia 25

RailMat wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
RailMat wrote:

I am a town member. What can I do. Anything.  I can't kill somebody.

To clarify, are you claiming vanilla townie?

Yes I am

Slabdrill wrote:

this is a role madness game where everyone has a weird power role


@Luka, based on what the mafia have been saying, is it likely that railmat could be a mafia member? He does also have a fairly distinct typing pattern.

MODMERGE:

LORD MASTER KING wrote:

You guys are trying way too hard on Day 1, while i'm sitting here drinking my Earl Grey tea with some butter biscuits. A pleasure.

EEJoranasc wrote:

Thats just day 1, so it's still early to claim or lynch imo. I'm gonna see next day. O cmon me being killed first? That's sad

Why do you guys not want us utilising day 1? Do you have something to gain from us not getting anything done?


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#86 2019-06-15 20:50:01

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Re: Mafia 25

mutantdevle wrote:

@Luka, based on what the mafia have been saying, is it likely that railmat could be a mafia member? He does also have a fairly distinct typing pattern.

Quintet has pretty good grammar and sspelling, so Railmat isn't him.
Though Railmat could be dot. dot has barely stated anything in the mafia chat, but dot does have a pretty finnicky way of speaking.


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#87 2019-06-15 20:50:23

RailMat
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Re: Mafia 25

I am not a member of the mafia, I've no access to the mafia chat.

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#88 2019-06-15 20:51:09

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Re: Mafia 25

what? d1 and we already know who the mafia is? that's great get the confetti ready


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#89 2019-06-15 20:52:48

Jorc
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Re: Mafia 25

mutantdevle wrote:
LORD MASTER KING wrote:

You guys are trying way too hard on Day 1, while i'm sitting here drinking my Earl Grey tea with some butter biscuits. A pleasure.

EEJoranasc wrote:

Thats just day 1, so it's still early to claim or lynch imo. I'm gonna see next day. O cmon me being killed first? That's sad

Why do you guys not want us utilising day 1? Do you have something to gain from us not getting anything done?

I will change my mind when something happens. I can't trust anybody for now

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#90 2019-06-15 20:54:16

Luka504
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Re: Mafia 25

Dude, how could I have possibly fabricated *everything* I've just said?


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#91 2019-06-15 21:10:45, last edited by Tomahawk (2019-06-17 16:21:07)

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Re: Mafia 25

press 1 if ur mafia
press 2 if ur town

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MODMERGE:

you guessed right, i am an alpha male and i stand above all of you mortals

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#92 2019-06-15 21:13:52

Luka504
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Re: Mafia 25

I changed my mind can we lynch Kira instead


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#93 2019-06-15 21:16:49

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Re: Mafia 25

we cant lynch the alpha male bro

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#94 2019-06-15 21:25:09

Jorc
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Re: Mafia 25

Beta male first

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#95 2019-06-15 21:28:14

Kira
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Re: Mafia 25

I have to agree with Schlog, finally a townie with decent amount of intelligence, a pleasure for the eyes

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#96 2019-06-15 21:45:35

Luka504
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Re: Mafia 25

I wish to talk about Quintet. I made a mistake with Quintet. He isn't the Butcher, but rather, a Watcher.

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The Butcher role is a fake rolecard they discussed giving to someone else to make them think a townie is a member of the mafia, so I mistakenly copied that thinking that was Quintet's role.

In regards to who Quintet may be, I've been anylizing his words and personality, and this is what I've compiled
For one thing, he is definitely somewhat experienced with the game. He's pushy of killing Devlin first, which is a sign that he knows how experienced Devlin is at this game. He is clever enough to think of an entire role (Butcher). Quintet has also stated that he's going to try to be inactive in the game, and that he'll try to deceive people into thinking he's too busy for the mafia game.

Out of everyone here, the people who I'm pretty confident aren't Quintet are:
Luka504 (duh)
TaskManager (One of the first targets)
MutantDevle (One of the first targets)
peace (Spelling is way different in comparison to other mafia members)
ILikeTofuJoe (Has to stay alive until the end of the game for one of the mafia members to win)
EEJoranasc (One of the first targets)
NorwegianBoy (he's Mr. X)
RailMat (he's dot)

These are the people left over:
Crybaby
2B55B5G
mrjawapa
Kirby
ASDruska
LORD MASTER KING
MWStudios
AllenCaspe9510
Schlog
Raprap


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#97 2019-06-15 22:06:43

TaskManager
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Re: Mafia 25

im calling 2b55 to be one of the mafia members for targeting me and mutant
this isnt the first time that decision is made


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#98 2019-06-15 22:12:26

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Re: Mafia 25

For people who think that I'm part of the mafia, they think it wrong. My real role is that I make a new team. @luka504 can dot speak Dutch? I can.

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#99 2019-06-15 22:14:58

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Re: Mafia 25

If you can read the Mafia chat, then do you know if they talked about killing anyone in particular? That could really help us know who to trust


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#100 2019-06-15 22:15:54

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Re: Mafia 25

Crybaby wrote:

If you can read the Mafia chat, then do you know if they talked about killing anyone in particular? That could really help us know who to trust

have you read all of luka's posts?
he says they were talking about killing myself, mutant or (as he later mentioned) joranasc


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