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#1 2019-06-04 13:48:44

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Flash Ending in 2020?

Does anyone realize that when flash might end in 2020, EE will end too, since it runs on flash?


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#2 2019-06-04 13:52:44

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

Good thing they’re working on EEU then.


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#3 2019-06-04 14:03:34

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

coolmathgames will die too, which is gonna be very sad day for everyone in the internet

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#4 2019-06-04 14:06:47

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

yes, very sad day:(


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#5 2019-06-04 14:20:58, last edited by LukeM (2019-06-04 14:22:31)

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

Flash being discontinued was one of the main reasons for moving to EEU (a rewrite of and successor to EE). We're currently a bit behind schedule, but we're most of the way through the closed Alpha now, and plan to start the closed Beta fairly soon. This will hopefully mean that we can transition to open Beta a while before Flash is killed, to allow for a transition period, eventually shutting down the old EE servers when Flash dies or when we feel it is time.

('Closed Alpha' refers to our internal testing with staff and a few high tier Patrons, 'Closed Beta' to the stage where we give out invites to Patrons and those with Beta membership, and 'Open Beta' to the point at which we make the game publicly accessible)

Theres a fairly in-depth description (from me) of the technical side of our plans here: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 13#p749913

If you want some more general info (from Xenonetix) about what EEU is and what our plans are, here are some topics where you can find it:
Original plan: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=41928
General info: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=42625
Early concept graphics / EE Offline: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=43670
More recent info: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=44649

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#6 2019-06-04 18:34:58

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

Flash is very insecure and outdated, that's why Adobe decided to stop developing it and release bugfixes.

In 2020 Abode will stop support for flash, but it doesn't mean that it will "die"
It's not like 1 day you wake up to the computer and you aren't able to run .swf files

You still will be able to play EEO (a flash game) after flash "death"

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#7 2019-06-05 00:11:16

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

Good thing we're moving to unity~!

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#8 2019-06-05 06:01:05

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

good thing we're moving to GameMaker Studio!


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#9 2019-06-05 06:47:29

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

Gosha wrote:

Flash is very insecure and outdated, that's why Adobe decided to stop developing it and release bugfixes.

In 2020 Abode will stop support for flash, but it doesn't mean that it will "die"
It's not like 1 day you wake up to the computer and you aren't able to run .swf files

You still will be able to play EEO (a flash game) after flash "death"

wasnt this already the case and that in 2020 it will actualy die? i dont get what this means


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#10 2019-06-05 10:13:56

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

peace wrote:

wasnt this already the case and that in 2020 it will actualy die? i dont get what this means

EE is built on flash. Abode is a company that works on Flash. It releases new updates, fixes bugs and helps users with their problems.
Many sites need flash because some things (like games or tools) are also built on flash. That's why Browsers like Chrome have flash built-in.

Abode announced that it will stop support for Flash in 2020 (won't be releasing new updates or have anything to do with it). That's why everyone should change their systems in a way that it doesn't require Flash. For example, Facebook removes all flash games in favor of html5.
Browsers will stop supporting natively flash. If you want flash programs to work again, you have to install flash on your pс.

Flash won't disappear out of existence, people will just ignore it in favor of better alternatives. But if you really want you can still play flash games

i hope it makes everything clear

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#11 2019-06-05 10:26:58, last edited by LukeM (2019-06-05 10:30:09)

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

^ Not quite
First, installing Flash on your computer doesn't mean it will work in browsers, most browsers have said that they are going to prevent users from installing Flash plugins, so it will become very difficult to play a Flash game from your browser.
Also Adobe have said that they will no longer be distributing the standalone Flash Player, so although you could technically get a copy from a third party, it will become increasingly difficult if you don't have the standalone player installed already, and you'll likely be making yourself vulnerable to Flash security problems.

tl;dr: You'll probably no longer be able to play EE in your browser or install the standalone Flash Player from Adobe (you'll need to either have it installed already or get it from a third party).

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#12 2019-06-05 11:23:55

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

LukeM wrote:

^ Not quite
First, installing Flash on your computer doesn't mean it will work in browsers, most browsers have said that they are going to prevent users from installing Flash plugins, so it will become very difficult to play a Flash game from your browser.
Also Adobe have said that they will no longer be distributing the standalone Flash Player, so although you could technically get a copy from a third party, it will become increasingly difficult if you don't have the standalone player installed already, and you'll likely be making yourself vulnerable to Flash security problems.

tl;dr: You'll probably no longer be able to play EE in your browser or install the standalone Flash Player from Adobe (you'll need to either have it installed already or get it from a third party).

well, yes, i meant all that, perhaps should've been more clear

If you install Flash (outside of Abode site, it stops supporting it -> stops delivering it) you will be able to run .swf (flash) files on your pc.

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#13 2019-06-05 13:35:19

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

Oh, I didn't even know if EEU was for flash


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#14 2019-06-05 13:39:01

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

EEJoranasc wrote:

coolmathgames will die too, which is gonna be very sad day for everyone in the internet

Good thing I can still play flash games on 1000 other websites
like Notdoppler, I must say that's a good flash website


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#15 2019-06-05 14:50:46

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Re: Flash Ending in 2020?

ItzHyperNub34 wrote:

Oh, I didn't even know if EEU was for flash

EEU is made in html5, not flash. But EEO is made in flash, why they do it is because it's so easy. Still have Cercul1 never delivered the offline version.
Can't be hard to make a offline version in Flash when they have the whole sourcecode and also the physics.

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