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#26 2015-11-10 07:40:06, last edited by Onjit (2015-11-10 07:46:39)

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

JaWapa wrote:
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it's harder to struggle with the assailant to disarm.

I think it's harder to disarm someone with a knife.  Reason being, there is nothing to grab and twist, unless you want your hand sliced up.  Then you wince in pain, letting go, and you get stabbed to death.

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This is what I meant. If you have a gun, you don't need to be so close to the target, so they don't have a chance to disarm you.

Of course, if the assailant is right in front of you, then it is easier to disarm a gun.


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#27 2015-11-10 18:08:43, last edited by Master1 (2015-11-10 18:09:29)

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.


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#28 2015-11-10 19:13:31, last edited by Fastmapler (2015-11-10 19:14:28)

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

Master1 wrote:

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.

And after that, lets ban:
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#29 2015-11-10 19:49:58

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

Master1 wrote:

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.

While I'm in favor of guns, water doesn't let you kill someone while staying safe from retaliation far away.


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#30 2015-11-10 19:57:46, last edited by madiik (2015-11-10 19:58:05)

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

I'm confused.

You can use anything to murder. Even air.

What's the point of banning if people just find workarounds.


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#31 2015-11-10 20:34:56, last edited by Different55 (2015-11-10 20:47:22)

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

madiik wrote:

I'm confused.

You can use anything to murder. Even air.

What's the point of banning if people just find workarounds.

Because it's a lot harder to kill people with air than it is to kill someone with a knife or gun or hammer or pointy stick. Is this a trick question? Using this logic we might as well not ban anything and not have any restrictions of any kind because people will find ways around it. EMBRACE THE ANARCHY.


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#32 2015-11-10 21:35:48

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

You probably ought to own a gun if you are in a country where everyone has guns, I live in England and it has never come across my mind to get a gun because nobody here has a gun and those who do are farmers or kids who spent their money on a gun but don't know where to get bullets; I'm trained with the SA80/L85A1 and would probably get a similar rifle if I were to move to America - of course if nobody had guns it would be better but there isn't a realistic solution in America.

Carrying around weapons outside of homes and allowing concealed weapons are things that should be changed.


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#33 2015-11-10 23:41:33

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

Master1 wrote:

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.

I- I hope this is sarcastic.


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#34 2015-11-10 23:56:42

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

Terrasher wrote:
Master1 wrote:

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.

I- I hope this is sarcastic.

it's not

think about it

let's say the united states banned guns so only security guards, the police force, and the military have access to it

will you see a drop in murder?
will people stop getting killed?

murders are usually done through revenge

are you going to think they're going to stop killing if guns were banned?

of course i understand and respect your opinion, but banning guns would do more harm than good


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#35 2015-11-11 00:00:16

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Pingohits wrote:
Terrasher wrote:
Master1 wrote:

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.

I- I hope this is sarcastic.

it's not

think about it

let's say the united states banned guns so only security guards, the police force, and the military have access to it

will you see a drop in murder?
will people stop getting killed?

murders are usually done through revenge

are you going to think they're going to stop killing if guns were banned?

of course i understand and respect your opinion, but banning guns would do more harm than good

Once again, look at countries like the UK where guns are banned
Lo and behold, murder rates have dropped

#36 2015-11-11 02:54:44

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

Pingohits wrote:
Terrasher wrote:
Master1 wrote:

I don't really see a point in banning guns or w/e. If people really wanted to kill others, they could do it whether they had guns or not. Anything can be used as a weapon, even water.

Let's ban water.

I- I hope this is sarcastic.

it's not

think about it

let's say the united states banned guns so only security guards, the police force, and the military have access to it

will you see a drop in murder?
will people stop getting killed?

murders are usually done through revenge

are you going to think they're going to stop killing if guns were banned?

of course i understand and respect your opinion, but banning guns would do more harm than good

It's not because it's not going to fully solve the problem that banning guns would do no good. By banning guns, the task of acquiring the murder weapon would become more difficult. By making it harder for someone to kill a person / acquire a gun, murder rates and accidental deaths would go down.

And for those saying "if we're going to ban guns, why not ban ALL weapons?", shooting someone is probably the easiest way to kill a person. Imagine if instead of guns, everyone had axes; try commiting a mass murder (or just killing a single person) with an axe, won't be as easy. Let's reduce murder rates one step at a time.


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#37 2015-11-11 11:50:30

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

It makes me very anxious walking on the street knowing a lot of people are carrying guns. I'm happy guns are illegal in my country.


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#38 2015-11-11 12:40:08

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

In the mid 90s there was a mass shooting in Australia. Over the next nine months heavy gun control laws were discussed, and enforced. There hasn't been a mass shooting since.

Coincidence?


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#39 2015-11-11 18:39:14, last edited by !nb4 (2015-11-11 18:41:26)

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

say all you want, its still illegal
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Such language has created considerable debate regarding the Amendment's intended scope. On the one hand, some believe that the Amendment's phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms"


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#40 2015-11-11 19:09:03

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Re: 2nd Amendment aka Murica aka Gunz aka Thuggin aka Bearing arms

Guns do make killing and able to be done by more people than using a knife, object or another attack.

In England I don't own a gun and think I could kill someone with a knife - if I had a gun I could easily get a few bullets into someone without anyone able to stop me fast enough.

Planned attacks probably don't have much of a difference between countries because you would kill someone with whatever means, but guns do make it easier - you don't need the strength to stab or hit someone.


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