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Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Welcome to Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon. We are looking at unprecedented, troubling times. A plague is tearing through the country, and your government needs your help. Our sources have tracked an infected individual that may be in your area. In order to limit the spread of the plague, we are implementing new measures to help limit the spread of the disease. From now on, you are no longer allowed to go outside of your house at night. Food and necessities are to be rationed. You are no longer allowed to leave this town. Anyone who does not comply with these measures will undergo a democratic trial held by your town’s population, and may potentially be sentenced to death. To ensure these practices stay in place, we have dispatched government agents to help with the transition process. Your democratically elected mayor will be taking a back seat in this transition. Do not climb the wall we have built around town. Please note that we are only doing this for the safety of this town and its important member(s). Do not disobey.

Here are the rules that must be followed at all times:

▼Game Rules

- One in-game day will last 48 hours. One in-game night will last 18 hours. One in-game dawn will last 6 hours. Dawn occurs after a night is over, but before a day begins, and is a time where players receive feedback from the moderator. If you have a usable ability and do not respond in time, your turn will be forfeited, unless you are obligated to perform your role, in which case you will perform your ability on yourself.

- Votes that are not made using the Bold or Header tags will not be counted. Self-votes are allowed. See "How To Vote" below for tips on parsing your votes correctly.

- Do not game-throw, it's not fun for the other players and it's certainly not fun for your teammates (if you have any).

- Follow the rules of the forums and please be nice. Editing will be turned off.

- Orange will be the color I will be using to make posts as the game moderator. Do not use this color or otherwise attempt to impersonate me.

- Players may be prodded after 48 consecutive hours of inactivity by using the !prod <username> command. Players that are prodded for inactivity and don't become active within the next 48 hours will either be replaced or modkilled (if there are no replacements). Being inactive is not fun for anyone, please put in an effort.

- Do not discuss this game outside of this thread or outside of your role PMs unless express host permission is granted otherwise.

- A lynch will not occur when a majority has been reached. A lynch can only occur when the day ends. When a day ends, all lynch votes will be counted, and whichever player was voted for the most will be executed after factoring in role modifiers and abilities. If you do not vote, your vote will be counted as !sleep. Players can vote to not lynch anyone during the day by using the !sleep command.

- At the end of the Day Phase, a player will be lynched even if a (50% + 1) majority hasn't been reached. Rather, the player with the most votes amongst voters (a Plurality) will be lynched. If a Plurality of players vote to sleep, or two options are tied, sleep is chosen as the result.*

- Twilight occurs when the day has ended but the moderator hasn't closed the thread. Talking is allowed during twilight, provided the thread isn't closed. Players nominated for lynch may talk until the moderator announces their death. Once you are dead, you are not allowed to talk in the thread until the moderator has ended the game.

- Users not participating are not allowed to post in the game topic.

- Do not take screenshots or quote anything from your role pm. Do not attempt to fabricate fake quotes or pictures from your role pm. Do not post your Role Card ID, or a fake Role Card ID. This will be punished via modkill.

- To let me know that you've read these rules, please append your first message in this thread with the word "purpose" so that you will not forget that we are here with a purpose.

This game is a semi-open setup, so you will not know what roles are in the game to start. Here is the setup.

▼Setup

These are the possible roles that will be in the game. Not every role is used in the game. A (V) indicates that the action is one that constitutes a visit. The Mayor, Oppressor, Gladiator, and Plaguebearer roles are guaranteed to be in the game.

▼Town Roles

Vanilla - You have no abilities. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Cop - Once per Night, you can target a player to Interrogate (V); you learn whether or not they are Evil. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Sleuth - Once per Night, you can target a player to Investigate (V); you learn their exact role. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Inspector - Once per Night, you can target a player to Inspect (V); you learn their role modifiers. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Gambler - Once per Night, you can choose to predict the death of one other player (that the player will die during that Night or by Lynch during tomorrow's Day Phase. You can also instead choose to predict that nobody will die. If you make a correct prediction, your defense is increased for each correct prediction. With one successful prediction, you are protected from Basic Attacks; with two, you are also protected from Powerful Attacks; with three, you are protected from Unstoppable Attacks as well. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Vigilante - Once per Game, during the Night, you can target a player to Liberate (V); you make a Powerful Attack against that target. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Jailor - Once per Night, you can target a player to Jail (V); that player cannot visit other players, and other players cannot visit that target. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Retributionist - Once per game, during the Night, you can target a dead player to Revive (V); that player comes back to life. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Realtor - Once per Night, you target a player to Invite (V) to the Neighborhood Chat, a private chat where you can communicate with others 24/7, even during Night Phases. Any player can be invited to Neighborhood Chat, but you do not automatically start out with access. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Nurse - Once per Night, you can target a player to Heal (V); they gain Protection from Basic and Powerful Attacks during this Night. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Coroner - While you are alive, players who die will have their Role Cards flipped. If you die and there is no other Coroner and no Undertaker, Role Cards no longer flip. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Criminologist  - Once per Night, you can target a dead player to Autopsy (V); you learn all actions performed on that player. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

Mayor  - Once per Game, during the Day, you can choose to Reveal your role; the judge will confirm that you are the Mayor. While revealed this way, your 1 Vote counts as three votes. You are town-aligned. You win when all evil roles are eliminated.

▼Mafia Roles

Goon - You get access to Mafia Chat, a private chat where you can communicate with other Mafia members 24/7, even during Night Phases. Once per Night, you can choose 1 player to Murder (V); you deal a Basic Attack against that player. You are the only Mafia role in the game with a killing ability, so use it wisely. You are mafia-aligned. You win when there are none left to oppose the Mafia.

Undertaker - You get access to Mafia Chat, a private chat where you can communicate with other Mafia members 24/7, even during Night Phases. While you are alive, players who die will have their Role Cards flipped. If you die and there is no other Undertaker and no Coroner, Role Cards no longer flip.You are mafia-aligned. You win when there are none left to oppose the Mafia.

Forecaster - You get access to Mafia Chat, a private chat where you can communicate with other Mafia members 24/7, even during Night Phases. Once per Night, you can choose to predict the death of one other player (that the player will die during that Night or by Lynch during tomorrow's Day Phase. You can also instead choose to predict that nobody will die. If you make a correct prediction, your defense is increased for each correct prediction. With one successful prediction, you are protected from Basic Attacks; with two, you are also protected from Powerful Attacks; with three, you are protected from Unstoppable Attacks as well. You are mafia-aligned. You win when there are none left to oppose the Mafia.

Oppressor - You get access to Mafia Chat, a private chat where you can communicate with other Mafia members 24/7, even during Night Phases. On every even Night, once per Night, you can select 3 players; players must vote amongst these three players during the next Day Phase, or they must vote to skip. You are mafia-aligned. You win when there are none left to oppose the Mafia.

▼Neutral Roles

Gladiator - Once per game, during the Day, you can Declare one other player; the game host will confirm that you are the Gladiator, and for the rest of the Day Phase, all other players now must vote amongst you and your target. A majority of players in the game (50% + 1) must vote for either you or your target to be Lynched. If no Majority is reached, you die. Not voting in this instance is counted as a vote to sleep.* You are neutrally aligned with yourself. You win if and only if a majority vote is reached against your Declared target.

Jester - On the Night after you are voted out, you can choose 1 player to Vindicate; an Unstoppable Attack is made against that target. You are neutrally aligned with yourself. You win if and only if you are voted to elimination.

Survivor - Up to three times per game, once per Night, you can put on a Vest; you gain protection from Basic and Powerful Attacks for the Night. You are neutrally aligned with yourself. You win if and only if you survive to the end of the game.

Executioner - You are assigned one player at the start of the game. Once per Night, if you haven't already won, you can have the judge reassign your target to a different, randomly chosen player. You are neutrally aligned with yourself. You win if and only if your assigned player is voted to elimination.

▼Neutral Evil Roles

Serial Killer - Once per Night, you target 1 player to Stab (V); you make a Basic Attack against that player. You are evil, and aligned with yourself. You win when there are none left to oppose you.

Plaguebearer - Once per Night, you target 1 player, dead or alive, to Infect (V). If that Infected player visits another player, they also Infect that player. If another player visits an Infected player, the visiting player is also Infected. When all players in the game have been Infected, including all dead players, you become a Pestilence during the next morning, and the judge publicly announces that a player has become a Pestilence. You are evil, and aligned with yourself. You win when there are none left to oppose you.

Pestilence - You are protected from Basic, Powerful, and Unstoppable Attacks. Any player who visits you is dealt a Powerful Attack. Once per Night, you can target 1 Player to Doom (V); you deal a Powerful Attack against that player and any player who visited the player you Doomed during this Night. You are evil, and aligned with yourself. You win when there are none left to oppose you.

Voodoo - Once per Night, you can perform one of two abilities:
• Select a player and Craft a Voodoo Doll in their image (max one at a time each).
• Select a player that you've already made a Voodoo Doll of and another target; Force that player to perform their Night Action on the other target, expending that player's Voodoo Doll in the process.
You cannot be visited by players that you have made a Voodoo Doll of. You are evil, and aligned with yourself. You win when there are none left to oppose you.

Hexblade - Once per Night, you can choose one player to Hex. If all other players alive are Hexed, you can instead deal a Basic Attack against all Hexed players, causing your Hexes on them to wear off if any survived. You are evil, and aligned with yourself. You win when there are none left to oppose you.

Arsonist - Once per Night, you can perform one of two abilities:
• Select a player to Douse (V).
• Ignite, dealing a Powerful Attack against all Doused players, after which all players are cleansed of being Doused.
Players that visit you are automatically Doused. You are evil, and aligned with yourself. You win when there are none left to oppose you.

These are the possible role modifiers in the game. Not every role modifier is used. Each player will be given two role modifiers to keep throughout the entire duration of the game.

▼Role Modifiers

Breadcrumb - If a Breadcrumb player is lynched,  if their Role Card is flipped, so too is the history of each Night Action they took.

Bulletproof - A Bulletproof player is protected from Basic Attacks, if they weren't already.

Complex - A Complex player can perform their Night Actions on all players except for Vanilla and Goon.

Delayed - A Delayed player's Night Actions resolve the Night after they use them, even if that player died.

False Flag - A False Flag player shows up as evil if they are town-aligned, and town-aligned if they are evil.

Flagbearer - A Flagbearer is representative of a single faction in the game. If a Flagbearer of a faction is Lynched, then that faction will automatically lose the game.

Hammering - A Hammering player's vote against a player only counts if it is the vote that creates a majority against a player.*

Hated - One less vote is required to Lynch a Hated player. If a tie occurs between a Hated player and a regular player, the regular player takes precedent.

Impulsive - An Impulsive player cannot choose to not perform their Night Action. They must perform their Night Action if it is possible to do so.

Loud - When a Loud player visits another player during the Night, that player is informed that the Loud player visited.

Macho - A Macho player cannot be Healed.

Novice - A Novice player can't use their Night ability on the first Night.

Reporting - The results of a Reporting player's Night actions, as well as the Night Actions themselves, become publicly announced at the start of the following Day.

Roaming - A Roaming player can't target the same player for their Night ability twice in a row.

Sentinel The Sentinel always knows who the Flagbearer of their faction is.

Simple - A Simple player can't perform their Night Actions on any players except for Vanilla and Goon.

Smelly - A Smelly player causes all players that are visited by the Smelly player to appear evil for the rest of the game.

Here are some rulings regarding the game if anyone is confused:

▼Rulings

• If you die, you keep the role and alignment you had when you died, as well as any boons you might have had. Therefore, if a Retributionist revives you, for example, and you were a Pestilence converted from a Plaguebearer, you come back to life as a Pestilence. If you died while having access to the Neighborhood chat thanks to the ability of the Realtor, then you regain access to that chat. If your defense was increased because you correctly made predictions as a Gambler or a Forecaster, you regain your increased defense.

• The game does not end if one role wins. For example, if the target of an Executioner is voted out, the Executioner wins, but the game still continues. If the Jester is voted out, they win, but the game still continues. The game will only end when all remaining players have either won or no longer have an opportunity to win.

• Unless it breaks the rules of the game or is otherwise noted, all roles may target themselves with their own abilities. Killing roles are not allowed to kill themselves. A Goon cannot kill any of their teammates, even if they are forced to by the effect of a Voodoo.

• If your role meets the requirements to win, you win even if you had died earlier in the game. For example, if Town wins, it counts as a win for all dead players aligned with the Town as well.

• Wins are announced at the end of the game, even if a role wins the game before the game is over.

• Tying votes will result in nobody dying, and the game continuing on to Night.

• A Hammerer's vote will only count if that vote creates a majority. For example, if there are 6 players in the game, four votes are required for a majority. Therefore, the Hammerer's vote will only count if it is the 4th vote on a player.

• A Breadcrumb player will have the feedback they received from the moderator publicly announced upon their lynch. These results will not show if they are nightkilled. So, for example, if a Goon were a Breadcrumb, and they were lynched, each player that they targeted for the kill would become public knowledge.

Any further ruling questions will only be answered through private messages with the host in your role room.

Here is a list of commands that you can perform during the game:

▼Commands

!vote <username> - This command can be used to vote for someone you want to lynch. Please use header tags.

!unvote - This command can be used to signify that you'd like to retract your most recent vote. Please use header tags.

!sleep - This command can be used to vote to skip lynching any players for the day. Please use header tags.

!prod <username> - This command can be used to prod a player who has not been active in the thread in the past 48 successive hours.

!votelist - This command can be used to request a full list of votes from the game moderator. Vote count posts made by the host will not factor in role modifiers or abilities, and will simply only list players and their votes.

!confirm - This command can be used to confirm that you are active within the game in response to the role PM or a prod.

!reveal - This command can only be used by the Mayor or the Gladiator, and signifies that they are requesting a confirmed roleclaim from the moderator.

You can only use these commands in this thread! I will not accept any of these commands if they are made in a PM!

Here's a guide on how to vote and use BBCode for anyone unfamiliar with how these forums work:

▼How to Vote

Whenever you are writing out a reply, you might notice some buttons above your input field. You'll notice they all have different text within them, and they may have a different look depending on the theme you are using. The buttons are as follows:

For general posting, you should not have to use many of these. Clicking on any of the buttons will automatically parse their functions in the post for you in brackets. Any text you want the code to apply to should be placed within the tags. The following are the only BBCode tags that you might find useful in this game.

When you are placing a vote, your vote must be made using Header text! The H button creates header text. When placing a vote, it must be done using header text, and it will look like this.

!vote Minimania

So, should you wish to use header tags for vote, your input should look like this.

[h]!vote username[/h]

Here are some other uses for tags that you may find useful throughout the game.

B creates bold text.

I creates italicized text.

U creates underscored text.

S creates strikethrough text.

COLOR creates colored text. As stated before, Orange is the color I will be using for modposts, so do not use this color to try to impersonate me. Your input should look like this:

[color=red]Red Text[/color]

HIDE creates text that can only be viewed by highlighting it, and it will look like this.

QUOTE will create a quote for which you can quote other players with. Each post will have a button at the bottom which will allow you to quote their full post, but if you want to quote only specific text, you can highlight specific sections to quote them. Should you decide to quote a person with a specific username, your input should look like this:

[quote=username]Text[/quote]

SPOILER will allow you to hide text under a button that must be pressed for you to view it. This is helpful if you have a lot of text and don't want to drown out other posts. If you want your spoiler to have a specific title, your input should look like this.

[spoiler=title]Spoilered Text[/spoiler]

Here is how the Town Rolecard ID template looks:

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Here's the player list.

Player List:

1. AllenCaspe9510
2. 2B55B5G TNG (she/her)
3. Abiqi
4. Mutantdevle - Oppressor: Bulletproof, Flagbearer
5. ShadowsEdge - Mayor: ???, ???
6. Norwee - Gladiator: ???, ???
7. N1KF - ??? - Breadcrumb, ???
8. Onjit
9. MartenM
10. ExFabian
11. Althea - Undertaker: Hammering, Hated
12. ZeldaXD - Jailor: Reporting, Roaming
13. IrrelevantGaymer (they/them)
14. Era
15. Marshmallow Marshall - Nurse: Loud, Roaming

Host: Minimania (Next/Victim)

The game started Sunday, July 10, 2022 at Midnight (12:00 am) PST.

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Heyo! I just got here, out of the bed and listening to coolio music. I'm actually going to start reading everything and spending time in this game. I hope you all have fun with me around hehehe. This is my first post.

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Just to adjust people's expectations of me (for those that know me), due to my irl purposes, I am not going to be as active as I used to be when we regularly played mafia. I quit mafia because my life got busy and that very much still stands, I just felt like coming out of retirement a little for what looks like a fun game more out of nostalgia than anything else. That said, I fully intend to keep up with the game in terms of reading and, knowing me, I'll still treat you all to a few walls of text here and there

Don't push too hard, spend the time when you need to.

What is the purpose of such a complicated setup, so many things to keep up with my god

Mhmm... There are some power roles in the game and I'm kinda inclined to believe that, the role set-up is like simple. Vanillas with no abilities, not sure if they're gonna have modifiers but it'd be cool xD
Edit: Each player has 2 role modifiers

These are the possible role modifiers in the game. Not every role modifier is used. Each player will be given two role modifiers to keep throughout the entire duration of the game.

So each player, has two role modifiers.

Dum dum dum, who here has a gun

You're holding one.

Allen is definitely maf rn

LOL, that's a different story in your past xD

Does anyone have real thoughts.

Can cats breath fire?

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

(Optional Side Quest: Draw a portrait of the profile picture of another player in the game. Submit your drawing in the thread, and submit a picture of your choice in your Role PM. The best drawing will be featured in tomorrow morning's post, and the winner will have their requested picture as their Role Card picture, which will appear post-game or when flipped.)

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Is taken from the internet allowed :d

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Edit: Each player has 2 role modifiers

you lied, editing is not allowed

lying is indicative of scum behavior, maybe you’re actually scum after all

I'm flattered, but im not scum sadly xd

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Mhmm... There are some power roles in the game and I'm kinda inclined to believe that, the role set-up is like simple. Vanillas with no abilities, not sure if they're gonna have modifiers but it'd be cool xD
Edit: Each player has 2 role modifiers

You should have been informed of your two modifiers yourself when picking up your rolecard, so this ignorance sounds fake.

I just didn't read the role-set up info. I got up too attached to music when i woke up.

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

https://i.ibb.co/F08NbTn/Allen-Caspe9510.png

Jesus christ, omg. I'm not gonna win this lol.

AllenCaspe hasn't posted anything of substance so far. Speak up.

I was asleep, I'm also passively reading this thread while the game is still going and as of now. I don't have any accurate reads at the moment, like I get the onjit being suspicious but i barely play any of these mafia fourm games lol. So I don't remember bout this meta gaming stuff onjit history, maybe i've been on steroids or something. Also, I was having weird thoughts about norwee being serial killer again but i don't wanna believe it xd. It's just a random thought.

Also, if we actually do end up voting mostly on a flagbearer... they can just... you know.

Claim their modifier!

And i'm sure scum is thinking this is an wonderful fake claim too!

Hopefully, the sentinel is going to help clear things up. If there is a sentinel.

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

These pictures are making me melt

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

By that, I mean. Melting as in surprised

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

The no deaths is kinda funny, did something happen?

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

The no deaths is kinda funny, did something happen?

Only one scum player can technically make a kill. So it is entirely possible we have an no-kills scum team.

If that's true, does mafia even pose a threat to town? ^^;

If not, then maybe we should worry about plaguebringer then, if mafia can't even kill. How do we do that, or do we do something else?

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

If not, then maybe we should worry about plaguebringer then, if mafia can't even kill. How do we do that, or do we do something else?

The opressor can force the elimination on three players tommorow if they live. They are a much higher priority kill for town today.

We can just skip vote since mafia can't do anything lol, if that's true I guess.

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AllenCaspe9510

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Personally, I town read norwee when day ended but then what I'm seeing right now is norwee flipping neutral gladiator and declaring mutant. Uhhh, neutrals, I like neutrals. I'd say mutant should make a claim or statement before I cast my vote. Sounds good?

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Personally, I town read norwee when day ended but then what I'm seeing right now is norwee flipping neutral gladiator and declaring mutant. Uhhh, neutrals, I like neutrals. I'd say mutant should make a claim or statement before I cast my vote. Sounds good?

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Hold on, i'll write something.

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

https://i.ibb.co/V3DJTnk/mutantdevle-opressor.png

!vote mutantdevle

I didn't understand this at first. I think I sorta get it. I was confused why Norwee was susing mutant, and people saying era investigated mutant and found out that he's oppressor.

This is literally the worst situation possible. I am very glad that y'all have taken such extreme actions without me even replying

I am a Coroner with the rolemodifiers bulletproof and flagbearer.

Mafia doesn't even have an investigative role so it's not like you can argue that mafia is out to get you because they "knew" you were a flagbearer.

Ok so consider this.

Minimania knows how to design a good and balanced setup.
Do you guys think Mutant’s supposed "role" would be considered good game design?

This could explain the no deaths from last night. There can't be serial killer unless serial killer attacked mutant. Mafia must've been lucky about finding out the town flagbearer because mutant claimed flagbearer after norwee declared on mutant and scum is trying push a lynch on them. But that'll only mean if Era is scum. I think who Era's alignment here needs to be further told. It's possible that Era is scum that is trying to make town instantly lose, and I don't want town to lose. Here's a scenario i came up with, Era is scum who shot a player who had basic defense and is trying to push lynch on mutant today because mutant has basic defense, to do that. They need to make a claim that makes it 100% convincible to town, Mafia Oppressor. Mafia know who mafia is, and since this is a semi-open set-up, Let's assume that, all other players are town and they basic defense like vigilante and just to point out, there are roles that exist that make a town role look scummy. I think norwee delared too early when day started, we didn't have enough information to what mutant is except era saying mutant is oppressor right off the bat. I think mutant's response is kind of strong. I mean, there's no kills last night and mutant was caught mafia while mutant claims attacked followed-up by althea supporting mutant's flagbearer claim and so far, there aren't any other sentinel claims if I read this thread carefully, sometimes I don't read carefully lol.

Yikes, this is a mess. Mutant is indeed flagbearer and I'm wishing Norwee waited for everyone to post before activating gladiator.

To be clear, I am hard claiming the sentinel modifier, and Mutant is a flagbearer

With the plagubearer in the game, I think having more people alive is better than not, so we should keep Norwee around which means sleeping today and hoping there's no powerful attackers that can bypass Mutant's bp.

If mutantdevle is Oppressor, it would probably be a bad idea to keep him around because that means not only can he manipulate votes, but the extra night is extra time for Mafia to kill somebody (if they're able). Remember that Novice or Jail could have prevented Mafia from killing on Night 1. Or maybe they avoided killing anybody to try and confuse people.

Althea is claiming sentinel which is proving that mutant is town flagbearer. Flagbearer is already a dangerous role to claim with, I don't see a reason why mafia would do such a thing. Mutant can be scum ok, but this doesn't explain mutant being attacked which was claimed by him and the no kills last night. I don't wanna believe scum not being able to kill last night. Norwee, you said that there is no balance when town flag bearer has basic defense. What if I told you, mafia doesn't have a goon which means that the evil faction can't even kill, would you consider that balance? I think not and the only player who got attacked today was mutant whose claiming coroner flagbearer with basic defense. Think about it, if there is a Oppressor. That means there's a goon that must synergy with oppressor or else it'll be totally loose knots. Also, this is just Day 2, it's not yet end of the world yet xd.

It might also help if we got claims from Althea and Onjit, since both of them are just claiming sentinel without much weight to back it.

i did say i would add more to my claim but you gotta ask reaaaaal nicely

Sentinel?

Think about this. If his role is real, he can confirm himself as town because of sentinel. AND he is bulletproof. It is impossible for mafia to get rid of him.

The obvious solution is scum pushing lynch on town flagbearer which is actually happening right now. I take flagbearer with defense as host having kindness for town. I mean, it's even possible for mafia or even serial killer to get that clutch kill, and that clutch kill could have just happened today and you guys are making that happen by making a lynch on mutant. Norwee, I appreciate your offer and assistance to town but who are you exactly siding with? Scum or Town? It may sound like mafia can't kill the flag bearer who is town with defense and is using this opportunity to end the game but mafia can still win by majority. All it takes is not to lynch mutant who claimed town flagbearer.

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Also, I forgot to add this. Mutant isn't exactly clear yet. The person who started this was Era, so I'm kinda curious on what Era's alignment is and I think lynching mallow was a misplay. So I'm putting that up as a warning level number 1.

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Is norwee still in this game, I just wanna say sorry for my doubts

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

So i've counted 4 votes so far, what's the majority again? + Mayor...

Majority already reached???

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Also, the Gambler claim seems weird, considering we know there's another Gambler/Forecaster who has reporting (because public announcements), and isn't a Novice (because of the guess N1).

Doesn't seem that weird to me. Both Town and Mafia probably have their own guessers, like they both have Sentinels and Flagbearers.

Fair, but it seems unlikely that there's a Forecaster unless either: Mafia has no Goon, or there are 4 mafia. Which means that the public one is most likely a Gambler, and since their modifiers are different to yours, you would be claiming another Gambler.

or N1KF is actual serial killer unless im not getting something here :d

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The no deaths is kinda funny, did something happen?

Only one scum player can technically make a kill. So it is entirely possible we have an no-kills scum team.

If that's true, does mafia even pose a threat to town? ^^;

If not, then maybe we should worry about plaguebringer then, if mafia can't even kill. How do we do that, or do we do something else?

▼huge

https://i.ibb.co/V3DJTnk/mutantdevle-opressor.png

!vote mutantdevle

I didn't understand this at first. I think I sorta get it. I was confused why Norwee was susing mutant, and people saying era investigated mutant and found out that he's oppressor.

This is literally the worst situation possible. I am very glad that y'all have taken such extreme actions without me even replying

I am a Coroner with the rolemodifiers bulletproof and flagbearer.

Mafia doesn't even have an investigative role so it's not like you can argue that mafia is out to get you because they "knew" you were a flagbearer.

Ok so consider this.

Minimania knows how to design a good and balanced setup.
Do you guys think Mutant’s supposed "role" would be considered good game design?

This could explain the no deaths from last night. There can't be serial killer unless serial killer attacked mutant. Mafia must've been lucky about finding out the town flagbearer because mutant claimed flagbearer after norwee declared on mutant and scum is trying push a lynch on them. But that'll only mean if Era is scum. I think who Era's alignment here needs to be further told. It's possible that Era is scum that is trying to make town instantly lose, and I don't want town to lose. Here's a scenario i came up with, Era is scum who shot a player who had basic defense and is trying to push lynch on mutant today because mutant has basic defense, to do that. They need to make a claim that makes it 100% convincible to town, Mafia Oppressor. Mafia know who mafia is, and since this is a semi-open set-up, Let's assume that, all other players are town and they basic defense like vigilante and just to point out, there are roles that exist that make a town role look scummy. I think norwee delared too early when day started, we didn't have enough information to what mutant is except era saying mutant is oppressor right off the bat. I think mutant's response is kind of strong. I mean, there's no kills last night and mutant was caught mafia while mutant claims attacked followed-up by althea supporting mutant's flagbearer claim and so far, there aren't any other sentinel claims if I read this thread carefully, sometimes I don't read carefully lol.

Yikes, this is a mess. Mutant is indeed flagbearer and I'm wishing Norwee waited for everyone to post before activating gladiator.

To be clear, I am hard claiming the sentinel modifier, and Mutant is a flagbearer

With the plagubearer in the game, I think having more people alive is better than not, so we should keep Norwee around which means sleeping today and hoping there's no powerful attackers that can bypass Mutant's bp.

If mutantdevle is Oppressor, it would probably be a bad idea to keep him around because that means not only can he manipulate votes, but the extra night is extra time for Mafia to kill somebody (if they're able). Remember that Novice or Jail could have prevented Mafia from killing on Night 1. Or maybe they avoided killing anybody to try and confuse people.

Althea is claiming sentinel which is proving that mutant is town flagbearer. Flagbearer is already a dangerous role to claim with, I don't see a reason why mafia would do such a thing. Mutant can be scum ok, but this doesn't explain mutant being attacked which was claimed by him and the no kills last night. I don't wanna believe scum not being able to kill last night. Norwee, you said that there is no balance when town flag bearer has basic defense. What if I told you, mafia doesn't have a goon which means that the evil faction can't even kill, would you consider that balance? I think not and the only player who got attacked today was mutant whose claiming coroner flagbearer with basic defense. Think about it, if there is a Oppressor. That means there's a goon that must synergy with oppressor or else it'll be totally loose knots. Also, this is just Day 2, it's not yet end of the world yet xd.

It might also help if we got claims from Althea and Onjit, since both of them are just claiming sentinel without much weight to back it.

i did say i would add more to my claim but you gotta ask reaaaaal nicely

Sentinel?

Think about this. If his role is real, he can confirm himself as town because of sentinel. AND he is bulletproof. It is impossible for mafia to get rid of him.

The obvious solution is scum pushing lynch on town flagbearer which is actually happening right now. I take flagbearer with defense as host having kindness for town. I mean, it's even possible for mafia or even serial killer to get that clutch kill, and that clutch kill could have just happened today and you guys are making that happen by making a lynch on mutant. Norwee, I appreciate your offer and assistance to town but who are you exactly siding with? Scum or Town? It may sound like mafia can't kill the flag bearer who is town with defense and is using this opportunity to end the game but mafia can still win by majority. All it takes is not to lynch mutant who claimed town flagbearer.

defended mafia + mutant, sus

I did that because I was worried about town flagbearer getting lynched, town would have literally lost if mutant was actually town. I even stated the possibilities too.

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

AllenCaspe, what role are you? Are you disposable?

Though, I do agree with this, Allen what are you?

I'm the gambler with the modifiers of Impulsive, Reporting

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

(Optional Side Quest: It's time to make words sound nice, use sentences that rhyme thrice, and I really said three times not twice. Each sentence in your posts must contain a minimum of three words that rhyme with each other. Near rhymes like lime and wine do not count. Anyone who can fulfill this task will have their role card recolored to the color of their choice, which will appear at the end of the game.)

sounds cool, also what just happened last night

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

I guessed Exfabian last night because too quiet

hopefully, someone get leads for whoever PB is

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

(Optional Side Quest: It's time to make words sound nice, use sentences that rhyme thrice, and I really said three times not twice. Each sentence in your posts must contain a minimum of three words that rhyme with each other. Near rhymes like lime and wine do not count. Anyone who can fulfill this task will have their role card recolored to the color of their choice, which will appear at the end of the game.)

sounds cool, also what just happened last night

NOOO I LOST THE SIDE QUEST

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!vote abiqi

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