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Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

MAFIA 29: The French Revolution

Moderator: Kira

Playerlist: (TBD)

-Peace (Replacing JoeyC)
-TaskManager
-2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504)
-NorwegianboyEE - Doctor
-mutantdevle
-ShadowsEdge
-Zumza - Villager
-MrJawapa - Jester - Winner
-ZeldaXD
-Eleizibeth - Vanilla Townie
-Slabdrill
-Bimps (Replacing HeebusBajesus)
-Crybaby - Veteran

RULES:

Be nice. It's a game.

General:
- Please adhere to the forum rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread.
- Day phases will last 72 hours (or until a lynch is achieved).
- Night Phases will last 24 hours.
- During night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM me.
- You are expected to put a minimum of effort in your posts.
- If you break any of these rules, you may be modkilled or force-replaced.

Voting / Player actions:
- Make your vote clear and visible.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- A lynch will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then the day will go overtime.
- Following a lynch, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
- If nobody dies for 3 consecutive night phases, the town will win.
- If you have a Night Action, you may PM your night action every night.

Activity:
- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.

Mechanics:
- #2EFFBD is my color. Feel free to use it if you'd like! Just not to impersonate me or to mislead others.
- I may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

ROLELIST:

Vanilla Town:
-Le Vétéran (Veteran): You are the Veteran, a crazy lunatic that will kill anyone that decides to visit you at night. You can only use your ability 2 times, send me a private message at night time when you decide to use your ability.
-Le Guet (Look-out): You are the Look-out, your ability is to observe a player and see who visited them during a particular night. You can use your role as many times as you want, but you cannot visit the same person twice.
-Le Médecin (Doctor): You are the Doctor, your ability is to protect anyone from dying in a particular night. You are allowed to heal yourself once but you cannot heal the same person twice.
-6 Villageois (Villagers)

Mafia Goon:
-Le Déguiseur (Disguiser): You are the Disguiser. You may disguise as a living target, which makes you appear as that person’s role, should you die that night or the following day.
-Le Concierge (Janitor): You are the Janitor. your ability is to completely erase one’s identity, as such, the murdered’s role and note will not be revealed. You can use your ability 2 times.
-Godfather

Neutral Evil:
-Le Boufon (Jester): You are the Jester! You are obsessed with the guillotine and hope to get lynched at all cost. Upon lynch, you will get the chance to kill anyone that voted for your death.

SETUP:

-3 Mafias
-9 Townies
-1 Neutral

-Win condition for Mafia is to have at least 1 Mafia alive at the end of the game. If 1 town and 1 mafia are alive, then Mafia will automatically win the game.
-Win condition for Town is to have killed all mafia members and the neutral.
-Win condition for Neutral is to get lynched.
-Mafia will have private room they can use at all time, there won't be any Martyr PT.
-The game will be based on a day and night cycle, the timezone used will be GMT +1, Paris. https://time.is/fr/Paris

HAVE FUN!

Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Tant de pensées anti-révolutionnaires, je veux vous tous guillotiné!
Si triste que je dois choisir seulement une personne aujourd'hui.
Ce n'est pas le moment d'être modéré. Tout conservateur aura une priorité plus élevée pour l'éternel.
Vive la révolution!
Qui est avec moi?

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So many anti-revolutionary thoughts, I want you all guillotined!
So sad that I have to choose only one person today.
This is not the moment to be moderate. Any conservative will have a higher priority for the eternal.
Long live the revolution!
Who is with me?

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Qui est avec moi?

No

Bien sûr, bien sûr..
Suivez-moi.
J'ai une guillotine qui te conviendrait beaucoup, nouveau modèle, la mode parisienne!

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Of course, of course...
Follow me.
I have a guillotine that would suit you a lot, new model, Parisian fashion!

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

joey, i think it would be better to take our time and make the right decisions rather than lynch potentially useful people asap

yeah, it's only a day one lynch, so there's gonna be some amount of randomness, but i think if we wait for more info we might make a better decision than just lynching a completely random person because they're "usually inactive"

Je pensais que tu ne saviez rien de ce jeu, ou du moins c'est ce que tu avez affirmé jusqu'à présent.
D'où vient cette "sagesse"? Peut-être que quelqu'un tu a dit de le dire?  Un ami anti-révolutionnaire, hmm?

!Lynch Elle

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I thought you did not know anything about this game, or at least that's what you said so far.
Where does this "wisdom" come from? Maybe someone told you to say it? An anti-revolutionary friend, hmm?

!Lynch Ele (also a pun with a bonus l to mean she)

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

@Ele Alors tu devrais savoir que guillotine les joueurs inactifs quand il n’ya pas de source d’information est la meilleure stratégie.

@Norwegianboy Guillotining Luka nous donnerait autant de détails que guillotining Ele ou tu, non? Quel argument est-ce?

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@Ele Then you should know that guillotining inactive players when there is no source of information is the best strategy.
@Norwegianboy Guillotining Luka would give us as much detail as guillotining Ele or you, right? What argument is this?

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

• Je ne dirais pas que je suis inutile étant donné que j'ai été tué plutôt tôt dans les jeux récents.

• ShadowsEdge est très impliqué, ce qui n'est pas typique de notre typologie de la mafia.

• Luka de mon point de vue a marqué comme une villageois.

• B2 ne m'a pas convaincu, mais je les exclurais pour le moment de la liste des suspects à cause de Luka.

• Je ne pense pas que HeebusBajesus ferait une excuse aussi pathétique s'il n'était pas sincère.

• Slabdrill semble être un bon choix mais uniquement à cause de NorwegianboyEE, à mon avis.

• NorwegianboyEE semble se soucier beaucoup de ce que les autres pensent de lui. Il semble agité que quelqu'un croit que il est mafia.

• Fait intéressant, presque personne n’a même essayé de modifier son vote contre une autre personne.  Personne ne veut jouer agressivement, précisément sur le thème de la révolution française, que se passe-t-il?

Peace (Replacing JoeyC)
TaskManager
2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504)
NorwegianboyEE
mutantdevle
ShadowsEdge
MrJawapa
ZeldaXD
Eleizibeth
Slabdrill
HeebusBajesus
Crybaby

C'est tout. Ce sont mes opinions que je voulais partager en ce moment.

!Lynch Slabdrill

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• I wouldn't say that I am useless since I was killed rather early in the recent games.

• ShadowsEdge is very involved, which is not typical for our mafia typology.

• Luka in my point of view scored as a villager.

• B2 did not convince me, but I would exclude them for the moment from the list of suspects because of Luka.

• I do not think HeebusBajesus would make such a pathetic excuse if he was not sincere.

• Slabdrill seems to be a good choice but only because of NorwegianboyEE, in my opinion.

• NorwegianboyEE seems to care a lot about what others think of him. He seems agitated that someone believes he is mafia.

• Interestingly, almost no one has even tried to change his vote against another person. Nobody wants to play aggressively, precisely on the theme of the French Revolution, what is going on?

Peace (Replacing JoeyC)
TaskManager
2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504)
NorwegianboyEE
mutantdevle
ShadowsEdge
MrJawapa
ZeldaXD
Eleizibeth
Slabdrill
HeebusBajesus
Crybaby

That's all. This are my opinions I wanted to share for the moment.

!Lynch Slabdrill

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Pourquoi je préfère Slabdrill:

Il est plus efficace d'éliminer les personnes suspectes et inactives, pas seulement les personnes suspectes ou les personnes inactives.

Les personnes inactives présentent un risque plus élevé d'être mafieuses.

Avoir une mauvaise décision à propos de NorwegianboyEE semble pire que d'avoir une mauvaise décision à propos de Slabdrill, à mon avis.

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Why I prefer Slabdrill:
It is more effective to eliminate suspicious and inactive persons, not just suspicious or inactive persons.
Inactive people have a higher risk of being mafia.
Making a wrong decision about NorwegianboyEE seems worse than having a bad decision about Slabdrill, in my opinion

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

De ce que je sais, je sais peut-être mal, la personne avec le plus de votes sera guillotinée de toute façon. Il n'y a pas d'option nolynch.

Personne n'a présenté d'argument plausible contre quelqu'un d'autre.

Aucun argument plausible quant à la raison pour laquelle la mafia choisirait un joueur avec lequel ils n'auraient aucun problème, plus tard, de toute façon.

En fait, c’est une très bonne stratégie pour la mafia de cibler des acteurs importants tels que Luka, Task, Mutant, susciter une injustifiée peur, pas nécessairement pour avoir une majorité, mais soulever suffisamment de votes pour les faire guillotiner. Ce qui est exactement ce qui se passe apparemment maintenant, sur le derniere mile du marathon.

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From what I know, I may know wrong, the person with the most votes will be guillotined anyway. There is no nolynch option.

Nobody presented a plausible argument against anyone else.

No plausible argument as to why the mafia would choose a player with whom they would have no problem, later, anyway.

In fact, it is a very good strategy for the mafia to target important actors such as Luka, Task, Mutant, to generate an unjustified fear, not necessarily to have a majority, but to raise enough votes to have them guillotined. Which is exactly what is happening now apparently, on the last mile of the marathon.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

NorwegianBoy ne voulait pas voter pour Slabdrill, mais il a voté pour lui-même.
Cela n'aurait de sens que s'il était vraiment un villageois.
Je pense que nous avons peut-être suivi une mauvaise piste tout ce temps.

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NorwegianBoy did not want to vote for Slabdrill, but he voted for himself.
That would only make sense if he were indeed a villager.
I think we might had followed a bad track all this time.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Slabdrill est un lynch beaucoup plus sûr, à mon avis.

Il ne semblait pas du tout inquiet s'il serait guillotiné.

Peut-être la mafia avait-elle prévu de lyncher Slabdrill aujourd'hui et de lyncher le villageois innocent Nowegianboy le lendemain.

Mais alors la mafia a changé d'avis et en a profité pour passer à la seule autre personne possible: Nowegianboy.

Remarquez que Mutant a déclaré initialement que Slabdrill est une inactive mais utile personne, puis il a ensuite voté pour lui, puis a ensuite lancé une tendance contre Nowegianboy afin de pouvoir potentiellement sauver Slabdrill.

Le slogan de Mutant "juste pour pouvoir cumuler le villageois points" pourrait être simplement une projection de son propre raisonnement envers Nowegianboy, sur la base des moments où il votait Slabdrill.

À propos, Jawapa pourrait être le bouffon.

Ce post est-il trop d'une théorie du complot?

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Slabdrill is a much safer lynch, in my opinion.

He did not seem at all worried if he would be guillotined.

Perhaps the mafia had planned to lynch Slabdrill today and lynch innocent villager Nowegianboy the next day.

But then the mafia changed their mind and took the opportunity to move to the only other person possible: Nowegianboy.

Note that Mutant initially stated that Slabdrill is an inactive but useful person, then he voted for him, and then started a trend against Nowegianboy in order to potentially save Slabdrill.

Mutant's slogan "just to be able to cumulate villager  points" could be simply a projection of his own reasoning towards Nowegianboy, based on the times when he was voting Slabdrill.

By the way, Jawapa could be the jester.

Is this post too much of a conspiracy theory?

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

If norboy was a townie, this would be an easy lynch for the mafia.

Exactement, c'est la raison pour laquelle nous devrions chercher la mafia dans la liste des personnes qui n'ont pas voté pour Nowegianboy. Ironique n'est ce pas?

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Exactly, that's why we should look for the mafia in the list of people who did not vote for Nowegianboy. Ironic isn't it?

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Merde

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

is lynched person allowed to talk in twilight?

Bien sûr. Tout le monde sait qu'un homme peut parler jusqu'à 3 heures après avoir été décapité.

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Of course. Everyone knows that a man can speak up to 3 hours after being decapitated.

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Norboy you should have claimed. I'm disappointed

Il a fait.

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He did.

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

I'm the doctor btw. Which will be revealed soon.

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Zumza - **** aren't useful

this is what i mean while i do agree zumza's france posts are **** to read i cant read a single word of france so im verry hapyhe atleats translates it to english in a spoiler

By the way, can you also translate your posts in english in a spoiler, please?

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

!lynch Zelda

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

There's nothing that truly recommends Zelda for a lynch. I simply wanted to open up a conversation theme, and see what reactions might arise.
There's little dynamic in this game compared to others, probably a lethargy caused by the recent amounts of mafia games. This benefits the mafia a lot, they don't need to do anything really day time, the more they're aversive to aggressiveness the more they keep a good boi presence, the more you give into the action like Norwegian and Mutant did the other day, the more you tear down your trust in comparison to others.

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In regards to why specifically Zelda:
He has almost no input and they made an affirmation that simply isn't well thought, which I don't find typical of him.
In my opinion they do have highest odes for being mafia, at the current time, anyway.

And as I said before, considering the atmosphere I believe that the mafia didn't risked at all voting for NorwegianBoy.

Also kind reminder that there is no nolynch option in this game.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

I feel most confortable gambling on Zelda, at the moment.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

This seems like a mafia switch to save Zelda.
But having the jester killing Zelda or Crybaby with him, might be useful.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Obviously no PR would join the bandwagon against MrJawapa, unless they know they're not jester, because ultimately the jester can chose to kill only a person who voted for them.
And here's how, an interesting way for the mafia to get rid of the PRs by maxing their chances to be murdered by the jester, or figuring them out by who didn't vote.

Again I'm surprised by Zelda's lack of concentration on his actions outcome. The jester lynch is safe only when the jester's kill person is Town agreed, and not let to the random, something which was interestingly omitted thus far.

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

I simply outruled you and 2B as being mafia.
I could probably outrule Crybaby too.

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Since we presume that all this defence was built for Zelda, I believe Zelda is the best choice. No?

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Zelda probably is the disguiser.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

It would make more sense to push for a person who is actually a townie, if they were mafia, indeed.

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