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#1 2019-04-20 05:31:18, last edited by Onjit (2019-04-30 14:36:42)

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Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Hi! Welcome to Mafia 22!
Please read the rules

1. Respect everyone, it's just a game, don't be a jerk.
2. Do not gamethrow. Play your role to win even if it seems dire, you never know what might happen.
3. Only discuss the game in this thread, or threads I assign to you.
4. Dead men tell no tales. Please use the graveyard thread if you have been eliminated.
5. Make all night actions via PM to me.
6. Don't use the mod text color please.
7. Try to post at least once every 24 hours.
8. Days will last 72 hours, or until a majority is reached, nights will last 24 hours.
9. If you break the rules I will be rather ornery.
10. Have fun!

Roles

Snags
3 of the 4 following roles are in the game.

Chipolata
Devon
Kransky
Soybean

Sangas
5 of the 7 following roles are in the game.

Barbie
Tongs
Onion
Napkin
Tomato Sauce
Barbecue Sauce
Mustard

Loaf
All 3 of the following roles are in the game.

White Bread
Sourdough
Garlic Bread
Remaining Players (Randomised)

Zumza
2B55B5G TNG
TaskManager
MrJawapa
Freckleface
Kirby

Graveyard

NorwegianBoyEE [Tongs] - Killed Night 1
Schlog [???] - Replaced by Anatoly due to inactivity
Crybaby [Barbie] - Lynched Day 2
Mutantdevle [Devon] - Lynched Day 3
Anatoly [Soybean] - Lynched Day 4
Different55 [Sourdough] - Killed Night 4


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#2 2019-04-20 09:52:07

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

I think we found this game's noob already.


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#3 2019-04-20 15:37:42

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

D1 lynches are usually good. It is also good to have an odd number of players each day.
I for myself, am a fan of lynching inactive players and lynch-hoping players, as they're more likely to be scum.


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#4 2019-04-22 13:58:27

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Regarding today's Tongs's death:

Overused meme

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It was extremely foolish what happened yesterday.
What the heck were you thinking? If no one has any leads then we should call the day off? This is not a speed game. This might last weeks. If you're not committed to that, you should allow those replacements fill in the spot for you.

What about the old formats when town had just 2, 3 PR roles? What about when no one got no-leads? Call if the night and expect a rolling dice to find out the scums?

You must speak, share your opinions. The lesser contribution we have during the day, the lesser is our chance of surviving.

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!prod TaskManager


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#5 2019-04-22 14:20:39

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

!lynch Freckleface

Fun-fact: I began by writing d!mute instead of !lynch


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#6 2019-04-23 17:25:57

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I don’t know why people would vote Frex, I think he’s one of the loaf, but now we should lynch Mafias first.

What lead you to believe this?

!lynch Shlong


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#7 2019-04-23 17:41:35

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Minimania wrote:

To be completely fair to Freckleface, he's just as much of a candidate right now as Schlog, 25, and myself.

Why isn't Kirby in the list?


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#8 2019-04-23 21:29:10

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Such an easy waggon on Schlog, I don't like this.

!unvote


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#9 2019-04-24 18:48:45

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

The fact we still have no reply from ****, saddens me.

Also, I am going to disagree with mutandevle. I do find 2B55B5G TNG suspicious. So far I seen nothing else but simple demagogy from him.


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#10 2019-04-24 21:59:13

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Freckleface wrote:

Theres no option to lengthen the day is there? I would prefer seeing what schlog has to say before we lynch him. Though it could just be him stalling to give less time for the next suspect to explain themselves, I still think its better to lynch based off of actual evidence, not just inactivity.

Crybaby wrote:

!unlynch Schlog

You do more harm than good, preventing the lynch, now.


!lynch Schlog


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#11 2019-04-25 08:31:04

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Zumza wrote:

The fact we still have no reply from ****, saddens me.

Also, I am going to disagree with mutandevle. I do find 2B55B5G TNG suspicious. So far I seen nothing else but simple demagogy from him.

Already tried my best to prove that I’m not mafia, if you still think I’m Mafia then lynch me (in D3).

Why not today?


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#12 2019-04-25 08:59:07

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

!lynch Crybaby
You seem stressed.


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#13 2019-04-25 11:27:03

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I still suspect Jawapa, but now I think Zumza is more suspicious.
Ignore the fact that I said I think Zumza was not part of the Mafia, it seems that I’m wrong.

Zumza wrote:

!lynch Freckleface

Fun-fact: I began by writing d!mute instead of !lynch

Zumza decided to lynch Freckleface after D1, but Zumza could have voted Jawapa. Jawapa said that he disagrees to lynch in D1, while Zumza wants to lynch in D1. But idk what made Zumza decided to vote Freckleface, was it just because he posted a ****? I don’t think posting **** makes him a mafia.

You are right, I could had voted for Jawapa. Jawapa is however (in)famous for his anti-D1 lynching opinion. And I wouldn't consider that decision a starting point for a scum read on them.
An alternative had to be put in-game, in order to see who will make what choice.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Zumza wrote:

!lynch Shlong

Then, Zumza decided to vote someone who is inactive. A person being inactive doesn’t mean he is a mafia. Zumza could have voted another person who is more suspicious, rather than voting an inactive person.

Mafia 101: Inactive persons have a high potential of being mafia, as well as  people who are sketchy about what they say, people who are getting things out of context, and people who are easily steered into a certain direction.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Zumza wrote:

Such an easy waggon on Schlog, I don't like this.

!unvote

Zumza wrote:
Freckleface wrote:

Theres no option to lengthen the day is there? I would prefer seeing what schlog has to say before we lynch him. Though it could just be him stalling to give less time for the next suspect to explain themselves, I still think its better to lynch based off of actual evidence, not just inactivity.

Crybaby wrote:

!unlynch Schlog

You do more harm than good, preventing the lynch, now.


!lynch Schlog

Unlynched Schlog saying that it’s such an easy wagon on Schlog and doesn’t like this, but later lynched Schlog again saying Crybaby preventing the lynch is bad? This is strange. Maybe Zumza wants Schlog to be lynched while pretending he doesn’t.

Time frames are very important. I unvoted when Schlog still had a good chance of being able to reply.
Unlike Crybaby, who removed their vote, within the last 8 hours(?) when the lynch was pretty much imminent, without saying anything.
At that point it was not announced yet, that this day will be extended.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Zumza wrote:

!lynch Crybaby
You seem stressed.

Now it’s this random lynch. How does Zumza know Crybaby is stressed? Why is defending himself making him look stressed? Again, this is strange.

I'm unsure you focus on the right thing. It was not random, and random in itself is not really a negative point as long as it provides conversation.
Also so far it seems that Anatoly's theory regarding you(2B) and Crybaby proves to be right.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Zumza wrote:

The fact we still have no reply from ****, saddens me.

Also, I am going to disagree with mutandevle. I do find 2B55B5G TNG suspicious. So far I seen nothing else but simple demagogy from him.

Zumza wrote:

You must speak, share your opinions. The lesser contribution we have during the day, the lesser is our chance of surviving.

What I did was just sharing my opinions, but you thought I was simply demagogy. Are you trying to not let me talk so no one can say why you are suspicious?

Put words in my mouth. Nice.
Also, at some point, I did asked you what makes you think Frex is loaf, but until Jawapa placed the same question, you did not respond.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Zumza wrote:

D1 lynches are usually good. It is also good to have an odd number of players each day.
I for myself, am a fan of lynching inactive players and lynch-hoping players, as they're more likely to be scum.

And did you notice that you were lynch-hopping //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue (although I also did)

I voted for 3 persons. At least one of them, I am fairly sure is going to be proved as scum sooner or later.
2 of this votes were started by me. Not randomly joined what's popular, unlike you.


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#14 2019-04-25 12:14:26

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Crybaby wrote:
TaskManager wrote:

and "You seem stressed" is a really really poor and baseless accusation, unless you're trying to get something out of Minimania by putting him under pressure

You still can't seem to answer for this

My answer for TaskManager is Yes.

Crybaby wrote:
Zumza wrote:

Also so far it seems that Anatoly's theory regarding you(2B) and Crybaby proves to be right.

You mean the same guy who also thinks that everything I've posted in this thread is a joke? And the very first person I even considered to be mafia was 2B:

Crybaby wrote:

I'm not entirely convinced 2B55B5G TNG is really a newb at this game. I feel like he's overselling it

Also, chronologically, NorwegianboyEE was the first who hinted that 2B might be scum.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Zumza wrote:

I think we found this game's noob already.

It could be a tactic, he pretends to be noob and thus makes himself look like less of a threat. Then BOOM, he nightkills yo ****.

And now they are dead.

Crybaby wrote:

If the town votes to lynch either you or me tonight, then the other one is going to be suspected of being the Mafia. In the chance that we're both innocent, we're letting the Mafia have their way by turning against each other.

This is the risk to all possible lynches and almost unavoidable?


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#15 2019-04-25 12:26:15

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Do you mean that you think I’m Mafia and killed NorwegianboyEE? Don’t you think that the mafia knows what NorwegianboyEE is hinting, so they decided to kill NorwegianboyEE and let other people think I’m Mafia?

It could be a framing.


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#16 2019-04-25 12:45:20

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

From my understanding if one of the loafs dies. They become a second mafia, they will have to lynch both the town and the actual mafia to win, as they have no kill-ability.
So it is in town interest not to lynch a loaf.
I think Crybaby disproved an affiliation to this gang as they claimed they are willing to die for the grater good. B2 however, kinda warned us, that we are going to regret if we lynch them.


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#17 2019-04-25 15:54:35

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

If there is a Barbie role, that considers lynching me. I am going to ask them to vote for Crybaby, if they are not mafia, then they can kill me during the night.


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#18 2019-04-25 16:08:38

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

I can't help to notice that the people who are currently voting against me are the same who stole us D1.
Is the self-vote part of the same tactic?


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#19 2019-04-27 11:01:08

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I got some information in N1-2, if I’m near to be lynched I’ll reveal what I got.

Well when do you plan on releasing it? Beside the lynch? Just tell us what you got, now.


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#20 2019-04-27 12:06:32

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

They claimed to have information. Now they are at death risk either way.
What would be the counter arguments not to reveal their info?


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#21 2019-04-27 12:35:14

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

TaskManager wrote:

I'm also still willing to lynch Zumza, all the more so after minimania's town flip

Oh please, you know very well I honestly thought they were scum. Crybaby had a very important role for the endgame, and yet they were still saying that it's okay if they died.
Don't pretend a second, you thought they were town.
I realise very well, how stupid I was. But Crybaby speech sucked big time.


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#22 2019-04-27 12:43:46

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

This is crucial info:

If you are Tongs  / Onion, tell us who you visited last night.
If you are Barbecue Sauce, and the person you checked died, tell us who visited them.
If you are Mustard, then if you found someone that is Mafia, say it out loud.


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#23 2019-04-27 13:50:42

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Anatoly wrote:
mrjawapa wrote:

Why would you claim mafia for a reaction test? Why would you say youre mafia, then say jk.

Wtf

If the loafs are on the towns side, then they would target a mafia. I wanted to see if there will be enough lynches. And there were. That means that the loafs are still on our side.

Your side?
This gets better and better!


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#24 2019-04-27 14:26:38

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Anatoly who did you role-blocked?

We know already that Kirby was visited by you last night due to B2. And yet there is no kill.
Yet you said at the very start of this show that you believe they are Town.
So in N2 you decide to visit them because you believe they might kill. There are no kills. And you say in D3 that they are town.
How does this work?


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#25 2019-04-27 14:35:16

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Re: Mafia 22 [Loaf and Sangas Win]

Okay. You still said you have info. Why not release it?


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