what is the 'official' forum

SirJosh3917 · 2018-08-29 09:28:47

Please feel free to join us on the Fan Forums for more information and to discuss this update.

on the main EE page, and Fan Forums links to this forum.

the title of this page is "official ee forums", these forums are a subdomain of ee, "forums.everybodyedits.com", so if this is just the fan forum, what is the official forum?

Nebula · 2018-08-29 10:03:31

it's still the official one

Gosha · 2018-08-29 11:35:35

We don't have an official forum, this is a fan made forum hosted on the same domain as ee
EE Admins don't have any powers here, thus this can't be official

If diff decides to cover all forums with illegal content you can't blame us for this

Same goes to fan discord channels

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Different55 · 2018-08-29 13:51:45

Well Xeno has a little bit of power but yeah if I for some reason decide to go postal nobody can really stop me.

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peace · 2018-08-29 15:04:38

tbh i think ee owner should get same power as forum admins sinc eforums are all about ee

Tomahawk · 2018-08-29 15:19:46

What does it matter whether something has an [Official] label on it or not?

The fact that the devs post game news here, in their own restricted subforum, makes it official.

Slabdrill, Xfrogman43

LukeM · 2018-08-29 15:23:25

I guess its official in that this is the officially recognised EE forums, but its still the 'fan forums' because its moderated and run by normal players, not by EE staff members.

Different55 · 2018-08-29 15:40:52

peace wrote:

tbh i think ee owner should get same power as forum admins sinc eforums are all about ee

I'd really like that but still feeling a little burned from last time. Idk I might try it again, I think I trust Xeno to take it seriously.

peace

Minimania · 2018-08-29 15:51:13

Didn't Processor co-own the forums at one point while he was an administrator?

Different55 · 2018-08-29 16:36:43

Depends what you mean by "owning." I've always had sole access to the server. Processor was an admin for a good long while from the beginning though, was the only admin besides me.

TaskManager · 2018-08-29 18:18:59

Different55 wrote:

peace wrote:
tbh i think ee owner should get same power as forum admins sinc eforums are all about ee
I'd really like that but still feeling a little burned from last time. Idk I might try it again, I think I trust Xeno to take it seriously.

feels like a bad idea to me
ee forums ownership and staff has been much more stable for the last almost 4 years, unlike EE ownership/staff and id like it to stay that way
whats the point of anyone on the staff team having owner powers if its essentially just server management and moderation? the former is done by diff and nobody on EE staff is gonna do it anyway, the latter is done by diff and mods and barely anyone on the EE staff has the experience or qualities to do it

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mrjawapa · 2018-08-29 19:41:22

The idea when this forum was started, was to keep game staff and forum staff separate. This keeps punishments from carrying over from one platform to the other. That has gone well so far.

TaskManager

TaskManager · 2018-08-29 19:44:06

mrjawapa wrote:

The idea when this forum was started, was to keep game staff and forum staff separate. This keeps punishments from carrying over from one platform to the other. That has gone well so far.

yeah especially when **** from the campaign team get banned there occasionally lol

peace · 2018-08-29 20:04:14

TaskManager wrote:

and mods and barely anyone on the EE staff has the experience or qualities to do it

can you look in thier brains?

XxAtillaxX · 2018-08-29 23:59:29

I like to think of it in the same way of having freedom of the press.

I don't think one single group of people who are currently in control of the game, and who were chosen by their friends and colleagues, not by you, might I add, should, by definition have control over every facet of the community of which they simply share, not own.

It's good having a platform where people can voice their opinions that staff may not like, and on top of that, not face penalties in-game for the things they say which may violate the terms of service, which are currently strict and vague, pandering to an audience of young children, of which this forum doesn't really consist, or at least not to the same extent.

I haven't seen any argument against having them distinct entities beyond simply repudiating the potential cons and with no evidence to support it, only a warm fuzzy feeling that the nice people in charge will always do the right thing. Give me a good reason why they should be glued together in the first place.

TaskManager, Zumza

Different55 · 2018-08-30 01:35:39

XxAtillaxX wrote:

It's good having a platform where people can voice their opinions that staff may not like, and on top of that, not face penalties in-game for the things they say which may violate the terms of service, which are currently strict and vague, pandering to an audience of young children, of which this forum doesn't really consist, or at least not to the same extent.

You're not wrong but the current setup in no way prevents this from happening. Even totally banning the staff from the forums couldn't stop them from taking out their rage in-game for things said on the forums. There's value in having a different set of staff, I agree with you wholly there.

But as far as this particular doomsday scenario I don't think the current game staff is silly enough to burn that bridge, and if they ever decided they wanted to for some reason there's nothing that can be done to stop them.

Zoey2070 · 2018-08-30 21:38:09

mrjawapa wrote:

The idea when this forum was started, was to keep game staff and forum staff separate. This keeps punishments from carrying over from one platform to the other. That has gone well so far.

on the original, original forums, the only staff was ee staff though

Different55

mrjawapa · 2018-08-31 00:34:02

Zoey2070 wrote:

on the original, original forums, the only staff was ee staff though

not the original forums, not the old ee staff.

I vaguely remember a certain admin deleting topics that called them out for some wrongdoing.

Different55 · 2018-08-31 00:55:04

mrjawapa wrote:

Zoey2070 wrote:
on the original, original forums, the only staff was ee staff though
not the original forums, not the old ee staff.
I vaguely remember a certain admin deleting topics that called them out for some wrongdoing.

The original forums made by Cyclone? That was staffed wholly by in-game staff until they started dragging mods like me out of the normal users if I'm remembering right. The idea behind this particular incarnation of the forums was pretty much just to get away from Meredith and Atilla.

The original forums were run by gamestaff originally, the Meredith forums completely banned all gamestaff from them, these forums are somewhere in between. And in this incarnation we did have an in-game admin turned forum admin who decided it would be a good idea to practice some censorship, after which we haven't had any more in-game staff acting as forum staff.

mrjawapa

Zoey2070 · 2018-08-31 02:27:55

Different55 wrote:

after which we haven't had any more in-game staff acting as forum staff

*except for processor

mrjawapa · 2018-08-31 02:28:27

Different55 wrote:

we did have an in-game admin turned forum admin who decided it would be a good idea to practice some censorship, after which we haven't had any more in-game staff acting as forum staff.

great so we agree

Zumza · 2018-08-31 12:09:35

Gosha wrote:

EE Admins don't have any powers here, thus this can't be official

Considering the amount of staff changes this forum had compared to EE, I'd say the forum is more official than the game staff itself.

Perhaps the EE administration is considering to give the "official" label to a forum which only the patrons have access?

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