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#1 2018-08-16 16:55:52

Emily
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Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

I read NPC blocks if used too much to would cause lag so to prevent that you sold them 1 at a time. If you sell 1 block of text for a reasonable high price and make it so the player cant buy more than ~10 text blocks it should work. Unless it would still cause too much lag, but would it really?

EE Staff: We cant give out text blocks because it would be too laggy.
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That's just one of the many examples. Ive seen a few worlds that got completely filled with text so could capping the buy limit at 10 do that much harm? It wouldn't even have to be 10 maybe even 5.


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#2 2018-08-16 17:47:39

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

I feel like the label block is unpolished and was never meant to be used for building. It breaks some rules every other block has, like overlapping with nearby blocks, or even the edge of the world. This is speculation, but it was likely added just for the original tutorial world. So I can understand if staff members choose not to add label blocks for sale.

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#3 2018-08-16 17:58:56

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

I'd actually really like to see the text block added for everyone. Every new feature of the game breaks old "rules", that's why they're so cool. It could just be edited to not overlap with the edge of the world etc.

I think the text block is something that people would use all the time. It's a lot nicer to read than signs anyway.


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#4 2018-08-16 18:33:57

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Sensei1 wrote:

I'd actually really like to see the text block added for everyone. Every new feature of the game breaks old "rules", that's why they're so cool. It could just be edited to not overlap with the edge of the world etc.

I think the text block is something that people would use all the time. It's a lot nicer to read than signs anyway.

Perhaps a new label block could be made. The font would be monospaced, and each letter would fit into a neat 16×16 space. I think that would look better than the current label. I remember somebody creating graphics for that, but I cant find it right now.

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#5 2018-08-16 18:49:31

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

NPC don't cause any lag, the reason the NPC is sold like that is because each EE world has a weight limit (250 kB iirc?) and the NPC blocks contain three strings in a single block (that adds a lot of weight to the world file), and once you reach that limit you can not save the world anymore. However, regarding framerate, the NPC dont create any issue, nor do signs, because such text is only displayed when the player interacts with said block and then the dialog hides. Text blocks are entirely different, not only do they overlap over blocks, but they are a string (with also a hexadecimal value for colour) being constantly displayed in the screen, which is what causes the framerate issue. Experiences with EE illegal clients which do allow text blocks has shown us that users WILL abuse such text blocks, rendering the game even more unplayable for some people

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#6 2018-08-16 22:12:30

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

NPC cause lag!?
so do portals and ice buyable by single, because portals cause lag when theyre too much, and ice cause even much more lags
so make ice buyable, because lag :S (yes, this is sarcazm)


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#7 2018-08-17 06:46:49

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

ZeldaXD wrote:

three strings

Actually four if you count the name of npc.


Small one-line labels don't cause much lag
But labels that contain long multi-line texts, especially if there are many of them - do
I once tried placing label with over 10k letters just for sake of it, everybody in the world crashed, so I capped max amount if letters to 250, but still label might cause a lot of lag.
Also I don't want to give another tool for noobs to mess their level up with overlapping on blocks labels

If you have a very good world and you really need a label to make it better - ask any we staff members, usually we place them when they are needed

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#8 2018-08-17 10:42:44

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Emily wrote:

I read NPC blocks if used too much to would cause lag so to prevent that you sold them 1 at a time. If you sell 1 block of text for a reasonable high price and make it so the player cant buy more than ~10 text blocks it should work. Unless it would still cause too much lag, but would it really?

EE Staff: We cant give out text blocks because it would be too laggy.
Also EE Staff:  https://i.imgur.com/dE2Fsjs.png
That's just one of the many examples. Ive seen a few worlds that got completely filled with text so could capping the buy limit at 10 do that much harm? It wouldn't even have to be 10 maybe even 5.

i remeber that world also i asked xen abotu thi sbut label is too buggy ivve also hear dthat 1 label coudl break ee likely eeneeds to fix this in reeboot so poepe can us ei t:D


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#9 2018-08-17 21:26:32, last edited by Zoey2070 (2018-08-17 21:27:23)

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

one time i pasted the entire first like 3 chapters of pride and prejudice using exactly one label and ended up crashing the entire world

basically... no way jose. it's a dangerous tool in the wrong hands..........


but i still want it to be publicly available if limitations were added to it


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#10 2018-08-17 21:56:42

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Zoey2070 wrote:

one time i pasted the entire first like 3 chapters of pride and prejudice using exactly one label and ended up crashing the entire world

basically... no way jose. it's a dangerous tool in the wrong hands..........


but i still want it to be publicly available if limitations were added to it

uhm isnt there a carachte rlimit on it already?!


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#11 2018-08-17 22:01:36

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Zoey2070 wrote:

one time i pasted the entire first like 3 chapters of pride and prejudice using exactly one label and ended up crashing the entire world

basically... no way jose. it's a dangerous tool in the wrong hands..........


but i still want it to be publicly available if limitations were added to it

why doesn’t it have a character limit in the first place? that’s about all you need and maybe slap a +1 on to it

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#12 2018-08-17 22:42:37

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Hi again

Gosha wrote:

so I capped max amount if letters to 250

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#13 2018-08-31 15:50:39

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

how about just limit the max amount of labels to 15 and length to 100 so the worst that can happen is 1500 characters of labels

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#14 2018-08-31 20:45:32

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Making it cost 1000 energy per label seems nice


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#15 2018-09-01 00:14:04

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Gosha wrote:

Hi again

Gosha wrote:

so I capped max amount if letters to 250

Why not make it lower?


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#16 2018-09-01 00:28:28

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

Adding limitations to it, making it expensive, are not solutions, these are only ways to delay the inevitable.

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#17 2018-09-01 01:30:02

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

ZeldaXD wrote:

Adding limitations to it, making it expensive, are not solutions, these are only ways to delay the inevitable.

What is the "inevitable"?


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#18 2018-09-01 07:07:27

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Re: Sell TextBlock in shop like NPCs

ZeldaXD wrote:

Adding limitations to it, making it expensive, are not solutions, these are only ways to delay the inevitable.

until someone saves up enough text blocks?
why not just make it owner-only


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