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#201 2022-09-02 04:31:42

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

If I had to say who I think the scum are, I’d say Mini is my top suspicion.

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#202 2022-09-02 04:33:21

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Pqwerty wrote:

Wait how’d you go from agreeing with me that ShadowsEdge isn’t giving any reads to ShadowsEdge is town?

His posts lately are townie. He seems totally fine with just letting me lead without a conditionality to it of only liking me for pushing a particular player - in fact he's the one who got the vote on Allen before I did. Wolves generally don't see a confident town and then go "ya let's just sheep them before they've posted a read on me" - like that second part is critically important - ShadowsEdge came to the conclusion that I'm likely just town before I actually stated my read. I suppose he could have inferred it from me agreeing with his vote, but it's wolves get spooked at the idea of sheeping a leader type player that could then turn on them because they haven't actually stated a read on them yet.

He also liked my post earlier about me pointing out that people were townreading him despite him  not actually having made any real substantive reads yet - soft unpairs him with those three and there's a decent enough chance that there is a wolf among that grouping >rand at the very least.

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#203 2022-09-02 04:34:48

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Pqwerty wrote:

If I had to say who I think the scum are, I’d say Mini is my top suspicion.

Mini is a decent choice - you probably know mini's meta better than I do, has he done anything AI meta-wise?

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#204 2022-09-02 04:37:11

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Mini was the host of most of the games I’ve played here so I don’t have any meta really.

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#205 2022-09-02 04:38:29

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Pqwerty wrote:

Mini was the host of most of the games I’ve played here so I don’t have any meta really.

Why do you scumread him then?

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#206 2022-09-02 04:40:08

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

The EoD time being 4:47 PM rather than something normal like an even hourly time like 5 PM amuses me more than it should

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#207 2022-09-02 04:40:48

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Yeah looking at Mini's iso there's not a lot there, the most notable thing was the counteraccusation on Pqwerty


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#208 2022-09-02 04:44:26

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Lumi wrote:
Pqwerty wrote:

Mini was the host of most of the games I’ve played here so I don’t have any meta really.

Why do you scumread him then?

Well, as I’ve said before their posts were super filler. Then they super overreacted after I voted them. It seemed like a mix of OMGUS and trying to start a wild wagon against me. And now they’ve faded back into lurking. No reads either.

I mean compared to everyone else I have the hardest time thinking Mini is town

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#209 2022-09-02 04:52:04

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Lumi wrote:

Scumreads, what are yours?

honestly i don’t really have scumreads, since most of my reads so far are townreads.

i used to scumread Grilyon but he’s new, and his explanation made sense to me, aside from not voting because of a counterproductive vote, even though he had a suspect in mind, but i assume that he was too afraid to vote

also i just briefly backreaded, and Elijah seems like the most suspicious person to me. i still don’t see how he has the intent the scumhunt, because most of his posts are just fillers imo (aside from the traitor stuff, but it’s still not scumhunting). i also don’t like his scumread (i think?) on Grilyon, seems like he ignored that Grilyon is new. (though admittedly i probably made that mistake as well)

Minimania is also kinda weird to me, in earlier posts he was kinda active, but later his activity just dropped, still confused why he unvoted Pqwerty because he still seems to be kinda suspicious of him


i’d prefer voting Elijah instead of Allen, idk, Allen’s reads were kinda weird and somewhat confusing, but i find Elijah to be more scummy. some people voted Elijah as well, so i don’t really see why we’re going with Allen


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#210 2022-09-02 04:55:31

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Also Lumi I’m still really confused about the VT claim. You were MIA like most of the day so do you really think you were enough of a potential NK target to warrant a random claim? I mean you said so yourself that an inactive town mixed with majority will be it’s downfall. If you think this is the mafia’s winning strategy then shouldn’t the mafia keep the inactive players (you, until now) alive?

I don’t know why I’m so hung up on this so I should probably look into other people before I start tunneling/hyperfixating.

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#211 2022-09-02 04:55:59

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

2b55b5g wrote:

some people voted Elijah as well, so i don’t really see why we’re going with Allen

I voted for Allen since I suspect one of the people who posted reads (you, buzzer, and allen) is mafia,

I'm fine with voting either of Elijah or Mini, but Mini might be a better option just because as far as Im aware they're not as involved as Elijah is. But the main point being that we should lynch someone today, we just need a consensus on who that's going to be.


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#212 2022-09-02 04:58:27

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

2b55b5g wrote:
Lumi wrote:

Scumreads, what are yours?

honestly i don’t really have scumreads, since most of my reads so far are townreads.

i used to scumread Grilyon but he’s new, and his explanation made sense to me, aside from not voting because of a counterproductive vote, even though he had a suspect in mind, but i assume that he was too afraid to vote

also i just briefly backreaded, and Elijah seems like the most suspicious person to me. i still don’t see how he has the intent the scumhunt, because most of his posts are just fillers imo (aside from the traitor stuff, but it’s still not scumhunting). i also don’t like his scumread (i think?) on Grilyon, seems like he ignored that Grilyon is new. (though admittedly i probably made that mistake as well)

Minimania is also kinda weird to me, in earlier posts he was kinda active, but later his activity just dropped, still confused why he unvoted Pqwerty because he still seems to be kinda suspicious of him


i’d prefer voting Elijah instead of Allen, idk, Allen’s reads were kinda weird and somewhat confusing, but i find Elijah to be more scummy. some people voted Elijah as well, so i don’t really see why we’re going with Allen

Elijah should not happen today, if you scumread minimania though, that's a good place to vote

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#213 2022-09-02 04:59:00

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Speaking of which

@Marshmallow Marshall
@Nuclear Gandhi

Defend your scumread on Elijah to me

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#214 2022-09-02 05:05:21

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Pqwerty wrote:

Also Lumi I’m still really confused about the VT claim. You were MIA like most of the day so do you really think you were enough of a potential NK target to warrant a random claim? I mean you said so yourself that an inactive town mixed with majority will be it’s downfall. If you think this is the mafia’s winning strategy then shouldn’t the mafia keep the inactive players (you, until now) alive?

I don’t know why I’m so hung up on this so I should probably look into other people before I start tunneling/hyperfixating.

I was busy. And now I'm here and am already top poster with almost every single one of my posts having actual content with almost zero filler leading town on who we're going to chop today.

Like you said, did I think I would become town leader in the last 12 hours of the day? The answer is yes.


But ya you should focus elsewhere for now - it would be absolutely insane to chop me today, and I think you can probably follow along with my arguments for pushes - if you have questions I can explain any reads I have in detail.

You don't need to townread me to see the validity of my scumreads

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#215 2022-09-02 05:09:01

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

!vote Minimania


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#216 2022-09-02 05:12:19

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

[3] AllenCaspe9510: ElijahBaley, Lumi, ShadowsEdge
[2] ElijahBaley: Marshmallow Marshall, Nuclear Gandhi
[2] Minimania: Pqwerty, 2b55b5g
[1] Grilyon2: BuzzerBee
[1] Pqwerty: Grilyon2

[4] Not voting: Onjit, Minimania, AllenCaspe9510, Big Bon Jovi

7 majority votes to lock in the choice of elimination.

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#217 2022-09-02 05:17:35

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

!vote Minimania

Should be able to come on in the morning if anything changes, but depends if I have time.


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#218 2022-09-02 05:42:13

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

@Grilyon2

Vote your choice of Minimania or AllenCaspe

I see you lurking - pqwerty isn't happening today ever, and not eliminating on day 1 is very bad

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#219 2022-09-02 06:32:54

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

!Vote AllenCaspe

my guess Mini is town they retracted the vote for pqwerty and i believe in their confusion

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#220 2022-09-02 06:56:11

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Lumi wrote:

BuzzerBee, 2b, and AllenCaspe all committed the crime of townreading ShadowsEdge for "having good reads" despite ShadowsEdge's contributions so far being very sparse.

They all need to answer for their crimes on what read exactly they even found townie

because there's literally nothing there.

i didn’t ever say shadow had “good reads”. i said they were actively engaged. their posts (besides the first few they made) don’t seem empty to me at all. not really sure why you’re stating your opinion of shadow’s post like it’s some objective truth


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#221 2022-09-02 07:10:35

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I didn't think I had to actually come out and say this but I was mostly sus of Pqwerty because I thought he was bating us as a Serial Killer. I'm not sus on him anymore at all, besides the base level sus I have for everyone.


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#222 2022-09-02 07:11:11

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Also I've been at school since 5 and it's 11:10 now, I was busy.


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#223 2022-09-02 07:23:40

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

So here's the thing. The way I play is basically the way I play Among Us. I will look first for people who are good. Generally in amogus I can follow someone and if they don't kill anyone, generally they are safe. I don't have anything mechanically like that here but I still default to this playstyle as I am now.

Do my reads seem wonky? Well, probably not considering it doesn't look like I have any reads. Who do I even sus? Truthfully, not sure at this point. I've been focusing my energy more on who I think is good.

I've had the opportunity to sort of look over Allen's latest games on discord. When he is sus, he is a lot less open about his thoughts than when he is good. In this game, he made a readslist on a bunch of people but explained that he's busy. Maybe some of the reads were confusing, but they seem genuine, so I think Allen is safe.

Grilyon looks like he has no idea what's going on and I think his genuine looking confusion is enough for a derpclear from me.

Knowing what I know about Lumi, it wouldn't shock me that theyd aim to town lead at the last 12 hours of the day, so that's a bit of town points from me, but I've never played a game where they were sus so I'll keep it slight.

The rest of my energy has been spent trying to get some sort of a read on the players not native to this community.

I don't sus Pqwerty right now, it is true. Claiming anti-town in a game of only Town and Mafia is a pro town move so my thoughts on him have reversed since in my mind it's no longer possible for him to be an SK.

If we must PoE someone, I'd rather it be Elijah than Allen, Grilyon, or myself.


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#224 2022-09-02 07:24:47

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

!vote ElijahBailey

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#225 2022-09-02 07:52:32

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

current votecount if i didnt miscount:

[3] AllenCaspe9510: ElijahBaley, Lumi, Grilyon2
[3] ElijahBaley: Marshmallow Marshall, Nuclear Gandhi, Minimania
[3] Minimania: Pqwerty, 2b55b5g, ShadowsEdge
[1] Grilyon2: BuzzerBee

[3] Not voting: Onjit, AllenCaspe9510, Big Bon Jovi

a majority cant be reached right now


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