Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Althea · 2022-07-13 22:28:32

Era wrote:

https://i.ibb.co/16BFPty/E709-D9-E2-2-C … 8-CAEE.png

I don't understand what this is meaning.

Althea · 2022-07-13 22:30:09

btw Norwee, I've seen you around on other sites and always wondered what the EE stood for until I saw you here!

Norwee · 2022-07-13 22:39:30

Althea wrote:

btw Norwee, I've seen you around on other sites and always wondered what the EE stood for until I saw you here!

So you figured out that it stands for Eellogofusciouhipoppokunurious Electroencephalography.

Althea

N1KF · 2022-07-13 23:06:08

mutantdevle wrote:

Also, literally where is N1KF? She was so active yesterday and I'm still fairly confident she can clear everything up here. Though ngl I am starting to feel more and more hopeless.

I HAVE RETURNED

N1KF · 2022-07-14 00:02:17

Here is more summary of Day 2 after reading through it twice:

Era claims Sleuth, finds mutantdevle Opressor
Norwee is reavealed as a Gladiator, believes Era, and challenges mutantdevle believing he is Mafia
mutantdevle claims Coroner, Bulletproof, and Flagbearer
mutantdevle strongly thinks Era is scum
mutantdevle suspects that I'm a sentinel
Abiqi wonders if Era is Executioner
Althea claims sentinel, and agrees mutantdevle is flagbearer
Onjit counterclaims sentinel, and says mutantdevle is NOT flagbearer
Althea says Onjit is Mafia

If mutantdevle is Oppressor, it would probably be a bad idea to keep him around because that means not only can he manipulate votes, but the extra night is extra time for Mafia to kill somebody (if they're able). Remember that Novice or Jail could have prevented Mafia from killing on Night 1. Or maybe they avoided killing anybody to try and confuse people.

Norwee · 2022-07-14 00:14:33

Like i said earlier, i didn’t think N1KF to be partnered with Mutant. This proves i was right.

Althea · 2022-07-14 00:40:56

N1KF wrote:

Here is more summary of Day 2 after reading through it twice:
Era claims Sleuth, finds mutantdevle Opressor
Norwee is reavealed as a Gladiator, believes Era, and challenges mutantdevle believing he is Mafia
mutantdevle claims Coroner, Bulletproof, and Flagbearer
mutantdevle strongly thinks Era is scum
mutantdevle suspects that I'm a sentinel
Abiqi wonders if Era is Executioner
Althea claims sentinel, and agrees mutantdevle is flagbearer
Onjit counterclaims sentinel, and says mutantdevle is NOT flagbearer
Althea says Onjit is Mafia
If mutantdevle is Oppressor, it would probably be a bad idea to keep him around because that means not only can he manipulate votes, but the extra night is extra time for Mafia to kill somebody (if they're able). Remember that Novice or Jail could have prevented Mafia from killing on Night 1. Or maybe they avoided killing anybody to try and confuse people.

The consequence of sleeping and being wrong is not as great as the consequence of eliminating and being wrong. If Mutant is oppressor and town fails to eliminate him today, oh well? By that time you will know whether he and I are are telling the truth.

Onjit · 2022-07-14 00:46:42

the fact that i havent doubled down and voted for norbius should tell you everything -- if i really was with mutant i would be meming hard to dunk on norbius (it is funny to dunk on 'em)

N1KF · 2022-07-14 00:50:52

Althea, what if we lynched you and Jailed mutantdevle? Do you have also have a convenient role we need to know about?

If we did that we could learn whether you're telling the truth without the risk of mutantdevle either dying as the flagbearer oppressing us. It would however, mean that nobody else could be Jailed tonight, Norwee dies, and Evil people get another night to talk and perform night actions. That's a lot to ask, and it may be hard to convince people to vote for this.

ZeldaXD · 2022-07-14 01:03:31

N1KF wrote:

Althea, what if we lynched you and Jailed mutantdevle? Do you have also have a convenient role we need to know about?
If we did that we could learn whether you're telling the truth without the risk of mutantdevle either dying as the flagbearer oppressing us. It would however, mean that nobody else could be Jailed tonight, Norwee dies, and Evil people get another night to talk and perform night actions. That's a lot to ask, and it may be hard to convince people to vote for this.

Is lynching Althea even an option? I thought Gladiator claim forced us to vote either for the gladiator, target or sleep.

N1KF · 2022-07-14 01:04:19

oh whoops, I forgot.

Also, if we vote to sleep does the Gladiator die? Because that's how it seems to be.

N1KF · 2022-07-14 01:14:45

Alternatively, we can have the Vigilante attack Althea. Although I'd prefer to get some feedback first if these are good ideas.

ShadowsEdge · 2022-07-14 01:31:19

N1KF wrote:

oh whoops, I forgot.
Also, if we vote to sleep does the Gladiator die? Because that's how it seems to be.

Maybe, but then it wouldn't make sense to have a sleep option, because sleep and voting Norwee would do the same thing. I think its only in the case of a lack of majority, so if a majority voted for sleep Norwee wouldn't die.

Vigilante shooting Althea could be a good idea, as mentioned before shooting one of the sentinels would be a good way to confirm if the flagbearer is real, although the Vigi could cut out the middleman and just shoot Mutant if they want too (since Vigi has powerful attack), although, if Mutant is telling the truth then vigi would be shooting a coroner, so it's a bit better of an idea to shoot Althea if vigi wants to shoot from that pair.

It might also help if we got claims from Althea and Onjit, since both of them are just claiming sentinel without much weight to back it.

N1KF

N1KF · 2022-07-14 01:43:19

Whoops, I forgot the Flagbearer lose condition only applies to lynching. Liberating a claimed Coroner would still be something to watch out for though, just not as huge of a risk as lynching a claimed Flagbearer.

ShadowsEdge

Onjit · 2022-07-14 02:12:16

ShadowsEdge wrote:

It might also help if we got claims from Althea and Onjit, since both of them are just claiming sentinel without much weight to back it.

i did say i would add more to my claim but you gotta ask reaaaaal nicely

ZeldaXD · 2022-07-14 02:24:27

N1KF wrote:

Whoops, I forgot the Flagbearer lose condition only applies to lynching. Liberating a claimed Coroner would still be something to watch out for though, just not as huge of a risk as lynching a claimed Flagbearer.

Wait, if it applies only to lynching, what's the risk of Onjit saying who the real flagbearer is and having them confirm it?

ShadowsEdge · 2022-07-14 02:33:36

ZeldaXD wrote:

N1KF wrote:
Whoops, I forgot the Flagbearer lose condition only applies to lynching. Liberating a claimed Coroner would still be something to watch out for though, just not as huge of a risk as lynching a claimed Flagbearer.
Wait, if it applies only to lynching, what's the risk of Onjit saying who the real flagbearer is and having them confirm it?

There's not that much of a risk if town know who they are, but given that there's an Oppressor, the oppressor could put the flagbearer in the candidates along with other important town. It would force the town to make a hard decision, because they wouldn't be able to lynch the flagbearer, but the other town might be needed for winning later on.

Thing like a scenario where Oppressor puts a Flagbearer, Nurse, and Mayor as their targets. The obvious choice of those 3 I think would be the Nurse, but it would also mean that evils could get more consistent kills. That's really the main threat that it proposes.

this example is not at all from experience

Though in late game, evils could also band together to lynch the flagbearer, so there's that.

Althea · 2022-07-14 03:01:24

Yes, killing me is fine. Though I'd prefer Onjit of course, but anything to keep Mutant from being elimmed.

N1KF · 2022-07-14 03:19:49

!sleep

As skeptical as I am about mutantdevle, unless we get further evidence from a Cop or Inspector, I'm not comfortable with the risk of lynching a Flagbearer.

Minimania, if you're reading this, can you confirm whether a successful vote to sleep keeps the Gladiator alive?

N1KF · 2022-07-14 03:23:14

Votes

mutantdevle (5): Era (#203), ShadowsEdge (#222), Norwee (#227, #265), 2B55B5G (#249, #307), Onjit (#256)
Sleep (3): ExFabian (#270), mutantdevle (#321), N1KF (#344)
Norwee (0): mutantdevle (#232)
Onjit (N/A): Norwee (#201)

Althea has expressed plans to vote to sleep. This vote count doesn't take into account Hammering players.

N1KF · 2022-07-14 03:34:48

(by vote count, I mean the informal one made by me. I'm not referring to the actual vote count used to decide who is lynched)

Minimania · 2022-07-14 04:10:45

N1KF wrote:

Minimania, if you're reading this, can you confirm whether a successful vote to sleep keeps the Gladiator alive?

A vote for !sleep is practically the same as a vote for the Gladiator. If you vote to sleep, the Gladiator dies.

N1KF

Minimania · 2022-07-14 04:14:52

I also feel the need to reiterate this. In order for a person to be voted today in this instance only, an actual majority of players must vote for that person, or else !sleep is chosen and Norwee dies.

N1KF

Onjit · 2022-07-14 05:42:21

how much time is left today? like 26hrs right?

N1KF · 2022-07-14 06:04:54

I don't see any schedule for the end of Day 2, but as of right now, it's been 22 hours since the Host Communication.

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