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#76 2020-06-02 23:00:50

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Luka504 wrote:

Why cant we do both, Norwegianboy? Why dont we hunt for scum while covering for the cop?

Sure, those that want can do it.
I'm just saying i don't care for doing it myself.


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#77 2020-06-02 23:02:40

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Why not?


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#78 2020-06-02 23:04:56

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

It's also real LAMIST (Look at me i'm so town!) opportunity for scum to go: "Yeah! What a great idea! I'm claiming cop guys!". Which is exactly what i did in Yandere mafia when Crybaby proposed that plan to claim and then lynch a Senpai and i pretended to be super enthusiastic about it. And i won the game because i kept pointing to the fact that i went along with what people thought were a pro-town strategy but which really just served as a great source of deception.


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#79 2020-06-02 23:05:41

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

So i'm thinking you're suspicious Luka. Keeping my vote on you.


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#80 2020-06-02 23:06:05

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

TaskManager wrote:

ok but i still dont see the point doing this day 1 because cop didnt have the time to visit anyone yet???

We don't need to post reads d1 because that's impossible, but I just wanted to get the strat going today so we can move on to the next thing.

Some things I want to explore more:

mrjawapa wrote:
Onjit wrote:
!vote luka

I have a feeling I know the answer, but why?

Is the feeling that he's RV'ing? If not, how do you know why he's voting? Why is he voting for Luka and then you, if it's not an RV?

BuzzerBee wrote:

i don’t really know what to say but i’m going to post so people can at least have an early post from me to get reads on ig

How are we supposed to get reads from a filler post?

peace wrote:
Onjit wrote:

hello i would like to confirm that my role is vanilla townie

hi mafia goon i will note vote u

Why do you think that Onjit is a goon, peace? And why did you say that you won't vote him if he's a goon?

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#81 2020-06-02 23:06:57

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Pqwerty wrote:

We don't need to post reads d1 because that's impossible

Lel.


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#82 2020-06-02 23:08:09

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Pqwerty wrote:

We don't need to post reads d1 because that's impossible

Lel.

I meant cop inspects lol

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#83 2020-06-02 23:08:50

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

TaskManager wrote:

ok but i still dont see the point doing this day 1 because cop didnt have the time to visit anyone yet???

I was responding to this

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#84 2020-06-02 23:09:32

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Pqwerty wrote:
TaskManager wrote:

ok but i still dont see the point doing this day 1 because cop didnt have the time to visit anyone yet???

I was responding to this

Aite.


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#85 2020-06-02 23:12:04

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Pqwerty wrote:

We don't need to post reads d1 because that's impossible, but I just wanted to get the strat going today so we can move on to the next thing.

alright understandable
well in that case simply making everyone say "im a cop" is utterly pointless so miss me with this


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#86 2020-06-02 23:13:03

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

i'll consider doing this day 2 though when there's an actual gain to it


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#87 2020-06-02 23:14:02

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Inb4 cop dies night 1.


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#88 2020-06-02 23:15:40

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

It's also real LAMIST (Look at me i'm so town!) opportunity for scum to go: "Yeah! What a great idea! I'm claiming cop guys!". Which is exactly what i did in Yandere mafia when Crybaby proposed that plan to claim and then lynch a Senpai and i pretended to be super enthusiastic about it. And i won the game because i kept pointing to the fact that i went along with what people thought were a pro-town strategy but which really just served as a great source of deception.

You've yet to point out why the strategy itself is bad. I think it may be a LAMIST move, too, but I still think the idea Pqwerty proposed is a good one. Surely allowing the cop to freely disclose reads is ultimately only beneficial for the town. If you don't want to trust me, that's fair, but I still think we should try this.


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#89 2020-06-02 23:21:03

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Luka504 wrote:

I think it may be a LAMIST move, too,

So you are indirectly saying that you think your own recent posts are suspicious...?


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#90 2020-06-02 23:30:41

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

hey what if cop ends up not dying and we're in LyLo
wouldnt that be funny
"ok guys pqwerty's plan aside im the real cop"
"no its me im the cop!!"


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#91 2020-06-02 23:38:15

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

So you are indirectly saying that you think your own recent posts are suspicious...?

Don't get me wrong here, I said it *could* be a LAMIST move.
What pqwerty said could be a LAMIST move, but that doesn't make him automatically suspicious for suggesting it, because what he said could also be genuine.


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#92 2020-06-02 23:43:14

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

TaskManager wrote:

hey what if cop ends up not dying and we're in LyLo
wouldnt that be funny
"ok guys pqwerty's plan aside im the real cop"
"no its me im the cop!!"

I mean, if it gets to Lylo there should be enough information to go on by then to see who's lying and who's not. The cop claims would have inspects, scumreads, and pages of information to analyze. Also, there's so many killing roles that I don't think that the cop would be alive long enough for LyLo.

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#93 2020-06-02 23:48:45, last edited by Minimania (2020-06-02 23:49:28)

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

For the record, this game does not have "Lylo". Days do not end when a majority is reached. Days end after 72 hours or after a majority of people use the !endday command (which can be used in addition to a vote.)


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#94 2020-06-03 00:06:52

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Crybaby wrote:

For the record, this game does not have "Lylo". Days do not end when a majority is reached. Days end after 72 hours or after a majority of people use the !endday command (which can be used in addition to a vote.)

As long as town loses if they lynch wrong that day, it's the definition of what we call LYLO.


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#95 2020-06-03 00:07:40, last edited by Minimania (2020-06-03 00:08:20)

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Crybaby wrote:

For the record, this game does not have "Lylo". Days do not end when a majority is reached. Days end after 72 hours or after a majority of people use the !endday command (which can be used in addition to a vote.)

As long as town loses if they lynch wrong that day, it's the definition of what we call LYLO.

Fair enough, though I thought a reminder was a good idea so as to not throw off your expectations


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#96 2020-06-03 00:25:28

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Im gonna agree with Norwegian here, I dont think the cop strategy is a very smart strategy.

Obviously it would confirm their results after they die, but it also brings up a variety of problems: if the Cop finds a dangerous person, it'll automatically out them as cop, since they'll know who a dangerous person is. And the alternative to combat that would just create more chaos, and wouldn't a good plan for that, which the alternative is to have people put dangerous in their "reads" as you put it, which would only create more chaos in terms of 1, who the real cop is, and 2, what people should believe.

Furthermore, I think everyone claiming the exact same role will just cause a lot of confusion in terms of claims and counterclaims, in which the Mafia and Serial Killer can hide behind (As Norwegian pointed out previously) to push for mislynches, and even push for Cop kills or lynches.

Now let me explain why I personally think that everyone claiming VT is a good idea:

You want everyone to appear as cop to hide the cop's cover, but if the "cops" investigate a mafia, and they appear as not dangerous, it'll lower the pool for who the cop is. With the alternative that everyone claims VT, there's no way for the mafia to narrow down who the Cops are, other than simple actions hinting at being a PR.

The only downside to everyone claiming PR is that the Cop cant reveal their investigations without putting themselves at risk. There's a risk to both of them, but I think that everyone claiming VT is a better solution, because it provides less drawbacks for us than would be with everyone claiming cop--For everyone claiming cop, I see two major downsides, being that it gives evils an easy cover and counterclaim if needed, and allows them to narrow down who the cop is by the "investigations" everyone puts out; In the VT situation, there's still a chance for Mafia to find out who the cops are, but it's not exact, and it doesnt allow the cop to claim as easily.


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#97 2020-06-03 00:35:17, last edited by Minimania (2020-06-03 00:43:04)

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Sorry about the big wall of red, but I thought I'd post an actually accurate Vote count instead of one that might have missed some votes

Peace - Luka504, TaskManager (2)
TaskManager - Peace (1)
Luka504 - NorwegianboyEE (1)
MrJawapa - Onjit (1)

Also you better not cheat when the piñata comes!


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#98 2020-06-03 00:40:18

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

You still missed votes tho. Onjit is voting Jawapa.


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#99 2020-06-03 00:42:05

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

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#100 2020-06-03 01:12:39

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

@crybaby can mafia/sk nokill?


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