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rat

Formerly eleizibeth

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Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

The title says it all – allow people to downwoot posts they disagree with.

It can be used for adamantly disagreeing with something without posting, "I Adamantly Disagree," as a separate post.

For example, it would allow you to downwoot this topic if you disagree with adding downwoots.

Raphe9000

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Posts: 1,864

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

This could be especially useful for when people close topics or do things that don't deserve a post reacting to it every time (like making your posts completely illegible or ****)

TaskManager

Formerly maxi123

From: i really should update this

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

I adamantly disagree with this suggestion.

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rat

Formerly eleizibeth

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Posts: 785

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

I adamantly disagree with this suggestion.

If we had a downwoot option you would not have to explain why you disagree. But, We Don't, so

why do you disagree?

Pqwerty

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From: 'Murica

Joined: 2015-10-09

Posts: 2,078

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

I'M SO SICK OF TOPICS LIKE THIS

PARDON MY LANGUAGE BUT
WHAT"S FRICKIN' NEXT?
LEFT WOOTS AND RIGHT WOOTS? UNSURE WOOTS? WOOTS FROM DISCORD THAT SPIN AROUND IN CIRCLES TO HYPNOTISE PEOPLE INTO GIVING ALL THEIR PARENT'S MONEY TO THE EEU PATREON?

IS THAT WHAT YOU FRICKIN' WANT? KIDS TO MAKE IRRESPONSIBLE LIFE DECISIONS AND BANKRUPT THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO HYPNOTISED TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING? THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT? WELL, YOU GOT 'EM, RAT. YOU REALLY GOT 'EM.

THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT I DON'T WANT TO FRICKIN' FALL DOWN ON AND BREAK MY FRICKIN' NECK BECAUSE IT'S T00 FRICKIN' SLIPPERY.

HECK!

I DOWNWOOT YOUR POST

peace

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From: admin land

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Posts: 9,226

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

hmm not bad multiply downwoots coul ask for a do you want to reprport this post instead?

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rat

Formerly eleizibeth

Joined: 2017-06-29

Posts: 785

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

hmm not bad multiply downwoots coul ask for a do you want to reprport this post instead?

I don't think this would work because not all posts that you disagree with are reportable, and it might make new users confused as to what a "downwoot" actually is. If this were implemented, I feel like it would be discouraging downwoots.

BuzzerBee

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From: Texas, U.S.A.

Joined: 2015-02-15

Posts: 4,575

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

Hey Diff we should bring back Reputation™️ for the, what, third or fourth time?

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TaskManager

Formerly maxi123

From: i really should update this

Joined: 2015-03-01

Posts: 9,465

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

I adamantly disagree with this suggestion.

If we had a downwoot option you would not have to explain why you disagree. But, We Don't, so

why do you disagree?

You answered your own question, Elizabeth.
If we had a downwoot option, I would not have to explain why I disagree. Which is detrimental to the discussion.

Hey Diff we should bring back Reputation™️ for the, what, third or fourth time?

oh boy i'd sure love to give a -rep for this irrelevant post that doesnt contribute anything to the conversation wait why is my rep -40 OH GOD OH ****

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Yoshi2018

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

my signature would tell you my opinion

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SirJosh3917

Formerly ninjasupeatsninja

From: USA

Joined: 2015-04-05

Posts: 2,095

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

Hey Diff we should bring back Reputation™️ for the, what, third or fourth time?

reputation was fun, but downwoot is a nice middleground imo

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

what even is rep i wasnt sournd by them coudl someone explain pls?

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Bimps

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Posts: 5,067

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

We have this suggestion every half-year. If this were added it would be identical to rep, except the difference would have to be manually calculated

Raphe9000

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Posts: 1,864

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

If we had a downwoot option, I would not have to explain why I disagree. Which is detrimental to the discussion.

Then we should remove woots so people have to explain why they agree.

Minimania

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

If we had a downwoot option, I would not have to explain why I disagree. Which is detrimental to the discussion.

Then we should remove woots so people have to explain why they agree.

I agree but your shoulders are green and I don't like that so take a downwoot instead

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TaskManager

Formerly maxi123

From: i really should update this

Joined: 2015-03-01

Posts: 9,465

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

If we had a downwoot option, I would not have to explain why I disagree. Which is detrimental to the discussion.

Then we should remove woots so people have to explain why they agree.

If you agree with something you don't have to explain why since your opinion completely aligns with the opinion of the person you're agreeing with
unless you want to turn the forums into a facebook circlejerk

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Andymakeer

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

add this

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rat

Formerly eleizibeth

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Posts: 785

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

guys ? I don't see what's wrong. look at how much support i'm getting

Raphe9000

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Posts: 1,864

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

guys ? I don't see what's wrong. look at how much support i'm getting

I know right! Not even a single downwoot!

Pqwerty

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From: 'Murica

Joined: 2015-10-09

Posts: 2,078

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

Tbh I kind of like just making a post saying "I downwoot your post".

So instead of posting "I adamantly disagree", you just post "I downwoot your post". I did that in an earlier post and it got 9 woots, which is 1 more than your 8.

Or someone can make a post saying "woot if you disagree". That happens a lot, too.

Pqwerty

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From: 'Murica

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Posts: 2,078

Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

Woot this post if you disagree

Bimps

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

▼long text wall

Y'know what, I feel like I should make a short, or a long statement. I don't care about the length, however I'm probably going to be blunt about it. I have look at this thread for the umpeeth time, like the sunny, good, happy person you'd see when he wants to know anything about the exciting news... You'd think everything was sunny as usual, right?
NO.
JUST.
NO.
I saw that not much progress has been done on this topic. The heck? But I suppose that it's normal since it's about downwoots, right? Only certain users, you'd assume. (At least for now, if you get wooted now you get support, yay!)
...did I just say, yay? You assumed that I was happy at least, right? NO.
SO IF YOU WERE THINKING THAT, CLOSE YOUR LONG BEAK THAT MAY WANT TO YAP AT ME FOR THE SHIFT OF MOOD. AND READ ONWARDS.

So being in a quiet place... well, okay maybe there was some chatting, but let's forget about that. So while I was in my quiet house, I curiously went over to click on "Forum Discussion". I wanted to see what was new for the downwoot thread, but...
Here, I come for the surprise. There's not much news, besides posts in the thread; which, however, as we all know, ends up in no decision. Instead, I see a lot of "controversial" things and the such... I didn't understand, so I try to read the posts of these threads... Oh no... OH NO!
OH NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! HERE COMES THE CURSED NAME!
TaskManager disagrees!
Pqwerty disagrees!
Raphe9000 disagrees!
Crybaby disagrees!
Ooh, so many of these peoples, against downwoots. As I watch them arguing, I feel a lot of arrows, being so pungent and stingy, stricking me in a lot of spots. Struck in arm and legs! Struck in my chest, as if I had been betrayed! What in the tarnation of the Diff Forums is going on?! But then the unbelievable happened...
BuzzerBee disagrees!
OUCH! It struck me in the heart! Ow! He's is against this?! Why?! HOW? WHAT THE HECK? It was so surprising to me, at that time. Why would he disagree?
So then, I read through the thread again, and my face twisted, as I read the following message, but also at the twisted coincidence of the others disagreeing without much reason per-se. Most of them, anyways. It's like something heavy, crushing me in no time and in no effort...
But then here comes the horror I'd have never anticipated...
The community, lashing out at rat. Lashing out this much, and heavily, and incessantly; so incessant they fill my mind with voices.
"Damn, rat..."
"I appreciate your reply, but..."
"The fact you blame everyone..."
"Stop trying to make yourself a victim."
"Rat, listen man..."
"Nobody is reading this **** that I put too much effort into..."
"TaskManager, rat will not listen to reason..."
"Just so you're aware of your own behavior..."
A lot of these annoying things continue to be told, and the thread seem to be crumbling, as I watch this unfold. Not only these, but they're even assaulting rat like that one, with the next comments...
"Once again rat decides to ignore..."
"It's time to pull the plug."
"I'd say shutting down the thread wouldn't be..."
"I have one word."
"Hopefully it's clear to everyone that..."
"It was fun while it lasted."
LASTED?! So you're telling me that now I get to watch downwoots not rising in glory, but falling down, to such a dumpster fire? That I should watch on as this idea is starting to fall down under rat's control? That this idea will be a failure? FAILURE? Are things really hopeless?! Are downwoots going to die?
No. No... Just no.
JUST NO.
I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS BLATANT SITUATION. The annoying rat, the annoying disagreeing of membets, the annoying wooters... Everyone, everything here, is just as Diff says, who is one of the only sane peoples, had said about the thread. Just... ARGH.
GOD. OH GOD. HECKING GOD. I feel so done with everything, I'm done with this, I'm done with how much the threa has devolved into the children who bicker to each other, who disrespect the teacher... It's like that situation you see when a community is about to fall down. I'm done with the bickering.
Diff suggested that the idea is bad, but do I agree with him? No. The idea is not bad. Who cares about what he said? A demoraling statement should not be mentioned; instead I shall give a long explaination, and at which end I will say something that I sincerely hope you take. But, first of all, I'm going to say the annoying things that has happened here.
First of all, the community. Seriously, you've been toxic to rat as of late; I will admit that the OP is not very good right now, and that's why I'm going to explain briefly. But you guys.. I cannot believe you have devolved into children bickering between each other. You bicker, you think rat is evil, you just want rat to close the topic... And that's why I'm done with the thread. The high level of toxicness is just too much, and you're going to eventually be causing irreparable damage to this game sooner or later. You're like the Coronavirus; the toxicness started from a person, then the person has spread into other peoples. You guys act toxic. How about you think rationally, shut up for a moment, and listen here? You shut up about agruing whenever rat is right, you shut up about being sad that other people disagree... Most importantly, I have seen the heavy distrust and disrespect you've caused rat to feel. You've disrespected their decision to rejoin, and you think that it's interfering with the "Downwoot" plan. Know what?
The plan was never going to work. rat probably won't close the topic, at least not this early soon. And they won't step down, unill this idea is added. Honestly, with the toxicity you're spreading across, you're more likely to majorly damage this game, and majorly affect rat, physically and mentally. They're having a lot of toll being taken on them, but you're also giving a lot of mental toll and pressure to rat just because they suggested the idea again. Think about it, is rat making this topic a correct decision? Not necessarily, but is it right to harass them? NO.
JUST.
NO.
N
O
!
However, if you think you're the only community to be blamed, then you're lame. You're all awfully lame, because it is TIME to say the next thing...
The disagreers. You have broken our heart. You disagreed. YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO DISAGREE. I'm going to get over the detail, and shut up with the mindless rambling, not that I'll care nor do I care about what you say...
TaskManager, I want to blame you for the incident, I truly do; it is you the major reason, for making this post; however, at the same time, I cannot really blame you, because you seemed to be speaking sincerely. This is probably the time I'll probably acknowledge you, but it's only because rat said the side, so really you all probably think rat is the one at the fault. However, I still want to blame you on the other hand, because had you kept silent, and not included much detail, besides just saying that you're in a Maxi and not having Maxi, just like what rat said exactly, then this disaster of the metric terrififying incident...
WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.

YES.
THAT'S RIGHT.
HE'S THE ONE AT THE CENTER FOR IT. But I unfortunately need to respect him, which is something I don't really like doing, especially here; however, he has said his cause. It can't be reversed now. Though, if I was the admin, I could've deleted his post... but I choose to respect for the moment being.
Oh, and you're a prick. For not having shared your Maxi for the thread that you mentioned; about the downwoots, that rat mentioned. If you haven't yet shared the Maxi to now to rat, then let me know how disgraceful you should feel right now; you've massively destroyed a lot of what rat's future plans could've been. I could easily forgive you, but as it stands now for you to not share the server rework plan and progress, I'm sorry but I will consider that over long term and if it's worth it. You've already disrupted not only rat's plans, but also everyone's happiness, morale... And by consequence, me.
I have put quite a bit of blood into this thread, I really love and will cherish this threa dearly, but if this is the way it's going toward, then I'm not going to cherish anyone. This threa shall remain open and I'm not going to let development end like this here, so you should at least deserve the fornication, under the consent of the king. I said it, there, I don't like saying it, but I'm **** off right now.
Afterwards, here comes...
Pqwerty.
Yes, you. I'm truly disappointed that you disagreed with adding downwoots. I'm really disheartened that you did that, only because you don't like what rat has been doing. They're probably the one at the fault, yes, but it is shocking and frustrating that you shut down the idea like this. I really hoped you wouldn't do this; perhaps you DO need to get your eyeschecked, because as I recall, you were a user on this forum, no?
Is that correct? Then you shouldn't have stepped down, but you did because you allowed the other peoples to tell you like that. Wanna know why? You hate to see it, about 6. You were a user last I saw, NOT a moderator in game as well, and I don't think you can code or program if I recall correctly; in this case, retract your statement and see if you can agree again.
Raphe9000.
I was a little saddened that you did disagree and did state this thread wouldn't be developed quickly for quite a while... But then your next posts seemed quite horrible. You were disrespectful of other users; in particular, shall I cite how you seemed so criticizing of rat reigniting this idea? Disgraceful. Just... Dishonorable. I do not have to mention it. rat chose to because they wanted to, it's their decision; and you still went ahead and lashed out at him a bit. That's not how a former user would act now, wouldn't you?
Crybaby.
Just post again. Your reasoning was very prized; this is why I'm resentful a bit of you leaving the staff team. However as I see you right now, I saw that you have left... I wonder what happened to you now. Perhaps it's the Fate that caused you to heao ut as a kind of karma for you disagreeing? I wouldn't mind you supporting it, though.
BuzzerBee.
You disagreed just after a few weeks... I can't believe you did that after a few weeks. I expected months, but few weeks? No way. Just, no way. How can it be? I have no words to say to this.
And that's it, for the rant of all these annoying users that disagree... I'm truly fortunate, though, that we have both maxi, and Yoshi2018, present for downwooting. They're giving life to the idea in a good hearty way, yet the community is such a heartless one, and merciless at that. Thus, I shall stand by their side...
AAAAH.
There, I'm done ranting here.
So...
...wait... WAIT!
WAIT!
I HAVEN'T FREAKING FINISHED yet the last part that I so adamantly refuse to say, but will say anyways, because it's the one at the center of the fault too, besides someone else...
You know who is it, don't you? Well, I'm going to make it in 3...
2...
1...
And drumroll?
You all know the cause. Thus, I'm going to blep at this annoying member, who I shall call...
RAT.
Exactly, the disgraceful person that is at the center of attention right now, in the living of 2020, in the wake of Coronavirus, and in the inevitable downfall of downwooting. Even the previous suggestors would be greatly disappointed in you. Yes, you. The disgrace one, right here.
If it weren't for your annoying actions there, which has driven poor Pingo (yes I'm sorry for 3 years ago but that's not relevant), BUT also ThuggishPrune, and even Master1...
If you hadn't even pestering him... If you tried to actually help him with the issues...
If you tried to support him, to at least help him with BROTHER. HUNT.  or otherwise leave him alone with the TRUCKING...
If you had actually tried to respect him...
If you actually tried to take notice of your mental problem...
If you actually tried to improve yourself instead of acting the way, you did, to not only him, but also to everyone...
AND...
FINALLY...
IF YOU HADN'T ACTUALLY KEPT BLAMING OTHERS AND OTHERS FOR THE SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THE IDEA, IF YOU HADN'T TRIED TO PUT THE MEMBERS UNDER THE CRUNCH PRESSURE, IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY TRIED TO BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, IF YOU ACTUALLY TRIED TO ADMIT YOU HAD AN ISSUE...
IF
YOU
HAD
TRIED
TO
APOLOGIZE
PROPERLY
AND IF YOU HAD TRIED TO REBUILD YOUR REPUTATION (haha get it)
IF YOU HAD
****
COOLED
DOWN—
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP WITH THE VERBAL ABUSES TO MASTER1 ASUDHEWDBEQWHIOFWQEIOFBWQEOI
—YOURSELF—
Then...
Then this...
This situation...
IF YOU ACTUALLY TRIED TO IMPROVE YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR, AND TRIED TO MAKE A RESOLUTION WITH OTHERS... INSTEAD OF THE ENDLESS LIES...
I... No, not just me, but you, Raphe9000, the staff members, everyone, the community, if you had been more honest... then...
WE FREAKING WOULD HAVE NEVER ENDED UP IN THIS ANNOYING, YET DESPERATE, SITUATION. A SITUATION OF BLANKNESS AND CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAHHH...

Aargh... Ah... Ugh.. See, there, calmed down now?
I'm done with the rant...
I already did my role. It's really unbelievable... sigh. Sihg. Just... sigh.
Well... now that this is done... I'm going to remind you again, rat. PLEASE SEEK MENTAL HELP, AND RECONCILE, OKAY?
Now with that being
SAID
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So with that all being said, and done. I am fully aware of what I'm saying, and I am fully aware that its clichèd, considering it was an explaination, it was a long one. I seriously can't stand for this anymore, nor the toxiciness of you guys, nor the disagreeing, nor rat's recent behavior change. I'm all done with this. I want this idea to live on, but at the same time, the negative influence is really starting to bother me. So I have a proposition for you, and more aimed at the more sane peoples; yes, pointing to them..
I am going to forge our own path. That... Shall be the path that downwoots, will inevitably take, one way or another. Though I suppose destiny might as well affect the course, but we shall try to alter the fate. You say most likely rat closing the topic can change the way? But, I will tell you the path. One, that I shall inevitably take.
I shall tell the three phases, and I will explain over the first phase, which I shall call, "Reforming of rat".
For one instance... I, or rather we, with the sane peoples, shall bombard rat with a lot of messages. We shall make them realize that their actions are wrong, that what they're doing is affecting not only the staff, but also us, as the community. We shall force them to look at their actions, and realize that what's they've done is wrong. Of course, there's nothing much we can do for things like not replying, since it is inevitable, but the constant issues, such as the lies, needs to be eradicated. We shall eradicate rat of their bad mannerism, and educate them to be very discliplined in their OP.
Once we get rat to change, we move on to the next step, which I shall call Phase 2: The Reformation of Staff. Nobody is reading this. This has already taken over 15 minutes. **** you.
You see the pattern of the peoples who were leaving the staff? They usually have said that if Xenonetix's behavior improved, maybe they'd consider rejoining the team. I am very proud of John for standing up to the annoying, incessant peoples who are trying to have him leave; that is not the way that I envision the future community to look like. I expect everyone to at least be respectful when a new staff member joins the team, instead of the opposite way. (DISHONORABLE mention to Kira, 2B, Falk, Security, and Minisaurus. Although, I will give praise to Luka504 the cute and cuddly Aggron; Peace the gremmer, Gosha the Devil, rat the rat, Zumza the Zumzing, and Skullz17 the nice ball. They are the peoples I would like to invite, into forging our own path, and are the most sane peoples.)
The staff DON'T have to reunite together, it doesn't have to be 100% completed; I want to blame LukaM, but I can't, because he has provided his side, and Xenonetix did provide the side, despite not replying to the other sides (like that of Phinarose). Besides, I remember hes got his university goal which gives little time for him to help Xenonetix.
I shall take Jeff as an example. Pingo said that he resigned because he didn't like Prune's direction; that is why I said that changing Master1 first, and foremost will be our first phase. Once we've managed to clear that phase, it is time to have BeardLicker rejoin us. We shall have him rejoin, even if he will just be a forum moderator. for the moment being. It's really disheartening and annoying that he doesn't list exactly the reason, even though I understand he's probably on his NDA. But we'll see. Anyways, if EE U somehow becomes popular in the future, then we would need more mods, and he shall come to scene. He said he loved it, so maybe he can join us at some another time.
Security Drone, I would offer you to join us, but as I said previously, I see that you have been banned. I do not know the details; nor did I not care for it right now when I make this. But someone can dig it out for me, or I can dig it. Who cares?
Diff has said that he doesn't enjoy programming anymore. The solution? As I said, the problem lies with Xenonetix. He has said that he's not on a good relationship with Chris. Therefore, after we complete phase 1, I shall personally seek if LukaM can consider rejoining in the future, though since he did say he's on university too, I think it's better when he's got some free time, or has graduated from the university. Considering what he said however, I will probably make an exception for him; if he has already chose his future path, away from EE U, so be it.
BuzzerBee, I'm very disappointed in how you stayed for a short period as a moderator. Considering that this game doesn't have many mods anymore and there's few peoples, that's understandable. However, once we rebuild EE U with the path I shall forge, I shall see to it that you rejoin the team. The prized team.
The rest can be already said for the remaining members; Minisaurus, who will change his mindset over time as we change Xenonetix for the better, is one example. He did say the development isn't progressing much, so we'll see if Xenonetix will hire more staff member/developers for the game. But at the same time, I'm really adamant, considering how he treated peoples who defended John's rejoining of dev staff and how negative he seemed in general. If Xenonetix wants him back very well, but personally I won't invite him.
Phinarose, as I see with your way of talking I see you may be adamant of rejoining the staff; if that's the case, very well. Do consider it in the future, okay?
I have already told the detailed reasoning of why I want each staff to rejoin the dev team/assistance; without any further ado, after Xenonetix realizes his mistake or what he's done, I want you to at least join back to the team if you want to, and never look back again. Ever again. At this point, it's like you're giving up and yourself into the very darkness that will potentially... ANNALIHATE this game. But if we can get you back after phase 1, then maybe, we can avert the crisis that we're undergoing now because of everyone. After all of this disaster thing is over, you all can savor how much hope you have and how much happiness you'll be able to feel, but that's more for after we finish the last phase. I shall call the last phase, "The Refounding of Community".
The last phase is...
Community.
Yes.
You.
Guys.
Let us assume that either; Phase 1 and 2 are complete, or that you want to at least assist in helping for Phase 1. Right now, you all sound like disgraceful, disrespectful and toxic members... Probably the most toxic we've had since possibly the old days of EE. (Remember when you had to PAY in order to actually chat?)
The way you're talking to Xenonetix isn't helping. We get what you're saying, but the way you talked to John some time ago makes it feel like you've all devolved into nothingness, into just mindless children who just want the game back exactly. Know what, I'm going to fire a bullet at you with a gun, and have you realize the most critical thinking...
IT
CANNOT
BE
CHANGED
EASILY.
As is with the way rat is, what you're going to try won't work. This is why I propose my grand plan; only after we clear Phase 1 will then have a chance for the game's development to resume and for hope to be restored. I shall have you guys, realize, that the way you talk, with the toxic voice, and the disrespectful, annoying loud sound, is the incorrect way of going about it.
Calm down and think about it. How about you try to encourage rat to change his behavior, instead of just mindlessly attacking each other? You two sound like in two side; for example with John, there's two sides; one who wanted John to leave, and the other defending him.
Thus my grand project, is to get your behavior to all reform. Once I'm 100% sure that rat and the staff has returned or mostly at least, I shall have your behaviors be converted, mostly to try to aim for a more friendly community. At this point with this mess you've all made, might as well, have to make a brand new forum; I do NOT want the past, bad things (like the one now, which shall be past in the future), to tarnish the reputation of this game. I do not want peoples to be turned off by the way you all act. You're like children. At least act a bit more mature instead of blaming each other, which as it stands right now seems to be the case.
With that being said, my aim for these three phases, is to return everything, to the normality we all had; to the old times we used to have, where WE ACTUALLY enjoyed playing and joking between each other; talking; a lot of things we used to enjoy, but now you all have suddenly got serious for a moment there, and I DESPISE THAT.. If you want a rough projected goal?
I project that at the end of the three phases, we shall be returning to the 2015-2016 times, or at least to the time where rat was actually good, for a good period of time. I want us to all return to our old times, reminscide how much we enjoyed the old times, and return to that period after these three phases. Sounds grandious, no?
I will say the summary...
There will be 3 phases, in the path that I'll forge along with other peoples.
Phase 1: Reform rat into a better person.
Phase 2: Reform the community and convince them with time.
Phase 3: Reunite the community that once was.
Phase 4: downwoot.
You got that clear? If you want to sign up for what I want to do, I should ask you to post it in the comment sections, or PM me for a plan you may or may not have. Whatever, I don't care anymore. As long as we get the time rolling back to 2016 and the mood rolling back to good, amirite? Might as well obey to me, since that's the only way that we can get rat to change.
Oh, but if you disagree with my plan, then you're excluded. If you disagree, feel free to post here, but I don't care about what you're going to do or if you want to stop me; I'm not going to let this be stopped by you guys. Oh look, you want to be superior to me? Do as you wish then, if you want to.
Perhaps you want to get peoples to hate me? Oh, sure, go ahead and do that. Or you want to get peoples to WOOT you, and NOT me, whose grandious path I'm going to take toward a better future for downwoots? SO be it. In any case, the situation is disgraceful.
With that being said, I shall seek personally about bothering them or you community. I do not really care about that at this point anymore, but y'all have better start to make more of an effort, including PMing rat repeatedly, or something. If you want me to go solo, so be it. I don't care about you right now, and I can never care at such times like that.
Oh, and I'm going to say this, to the users; I understand you can feel offended by the way I speak, or that you dislike me when I talk like that, but guess what? I sincerely hope you're not going to delete, or close this thread, otherwise I may just try to make more of these. I can understand if you feel offended by this post, but I want everyone to read this long post, and to consider helping me on my own new path... One that shall be different from you guys, from the staff and from rat. The fourth path. Get it? GET IT?! And again, as I said, I want everyone to read this post, and to comment on this, instead of a closure to this thread in a immediate period.
Do be warned in how you reply, because I'm annoyed as heck as I am right now, pipsqueaks. With this said, respect me as you're ordered to; the Lord Bimp, who shall change everything.

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

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I just want to preface this with that I do not care if you respond in anger. Anger can be good, if it does not cloud your thinking too much. It lets you know something is wrong. I think we're getting at the source of the issues here. You think I am attacking what you said. I am not. I have not made any evaluative claims about your knowledge. I'm pretty sure I've repeatedly said that you didn't say anything that was explicitly wrong, and that if you did, I wouldn't have the tools to know. I talked generally on the subject of non experts talking about expert subjects, and how that generally goes, and why people might have a problem with that, me being one of those people. I don't have any problems with your "argument", which is why I haven't brought it up. I have only discussed the problems of making a field easily digestible, and then regurgitating that easily digestible material. It's late Friday here, and I'm getting a little drunk, so I'll be honest. I think your inclination towards getting defensive is clouding your ability to read what people are saying in good faith. You are reciting definitions and name dropping fallacies and things like gate keeping, but you are not actively engaging with the things being said. I am not sure what logic I have not yet responded to, or what evidence is somehow refuting my position.

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

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I just want to preface this with that I do not care if you respond in anger. Anger can be good, if it does not cloud your thinking too much. It lets you know something is wrong. I think we're getting at the source of the issues here. You think I am attacking what you said. I am not. I have not made any evaluative claims about your knowledge. I'm pretty sure I've repeatedly said that you didn't say anything that was explicitly wrong, and that if you did, I wouldn't have the tools to know. I talked generally on the subject of non experts talking about expert subjects, and how that generally goes, and why people might have a problem with that, me being one of those people. I don't have any problems with your "argument", which is why I haven't brought it up. I have only discussed the problems of making a field easily digestible, and then regurgitating that easily digestible material. It's late Friday here, and I'm getting a little drunk, so I'll be honest. I think your inclination towards getting defensive is clouding your ability to read what people are saying in good faith. You are reciting definitions and name dropping fallacies and things like gate keeping, but you are not actively engaging with the things being said. I am not sure what logic I have not yet responded to, or what evidence is somehow refuting my position.

So I’m completely sick of your **** you constantly make me angry and sad and you've almost caused stuff a lot more severe than just anger and sadness that no one except my family and fore of my closest friend get to know about. Now knowing you your going to say something like proof or just straight up deny all the **** you do, but if you truly do not realise what you do let me spell it out. The things you call jokes aren't funny you make these so called jokes at other people's expense and you don't stop when they ask you to, you keep on going until they are so angry that just straight up leave. The way you insult people and call it a joke is something worthy of a 2 year old. I know you are going to say well maybe they can't take a joke, but do you really think its a joke when the person you are joke about is feeling like going away and crying in a corner or worse. So you're probably thinking of saying well they should tell me to stop, but what you don't seem to be able to get through your thick head is that people have told you to stop and you didn't listen, so they no longer tell you to stop or they are too scared to tell you to stop because you will just make fun of them even more. It's even worse when you are teaching someone a new competitive game you think it's fun and funny to kill or win over them so much that they don't have a chance to get good. Instead you pichon thos how are weaker than you to inflate your ego. It's like me an at the time a 7 year veteran of world of tanks taking you when I introduced you to that game and going to a private training room and whooping your ****, but I didn't I attempted to pass on my knowledge collected from over 4500 howes of play time and pass that on to you by playing alongside you not just ruining your experience by crushing you and then calling you trach. So in conclusion I think you should rethink the stuff you do the actions you make and the way you treat people. So please don't talk to me unless you have change completely as a person and are the kind of person people want to be around or just leave me bee.

Onjit

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Re: Add the Option to Downwoot Posts

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I just want to preface this with that I do not care if you respond in anger. Anger can be good, if it does not cloud your thinking too much. It lets you know something is wrong. I think we're getting at the source of the issues here. You think I am attacking what you said. I am not. I have not made any evaluative claims about your knowledge. I'm pretty sure I've repeatedly said that you didn't say anything that was explicitly wrong, and that if you did, I wouldn't have the tools to know. I talked generally on the subject of non experts talking about expert subjects, and how that generally goes, and why people might have a problem with that, me being one of those people. I don't have any problems with your "argument", which is why I haven't brought it up. I have only discussed the problems of making a field easily digestible, and then regurgitating that easily digestible material. It's late Friday here, and I'm getting a little drunk, so I'll be honest. I think your inclination towards getting defensive is clouding your ability to read what people are saying in good faith. You are reciting definitions and name dropping fallacies and things like gate keeping, but you are not actively engaging with the things being said. I am not sure what logic I have not yet responded to, or what evidence is somehow refuting my position.

So I’m completely sick of your **** you constantly make me angry and sad and you've almost caused stuff a lot more severe than just anger and sadness that no one except my family and fore of my closest friend get to know about. Now knowing you your going to say something like proof or just straight up deny all the **** you do, but if you truly do not realise what you do let me spell it out. The things you call jokes aren't funny you make these so called jokes at other people's expense and you don't stop when they ask you to, you keep on going until they are so angry that just straight up leave. The way you insult people and call it a joke is something worthy of a 2 year old. I know you are going to say well maybe they can't take a joke, but do you really think its a joke when the person you are joke about is feeling like going away and crying in a corner or worse. So you're probably thinking of saying well they should tell me to stop, but what you don't seem to be able to get through your thick head is that people have told you to stop and you didn't listen, so they no longer tell you to stop or they are too scared to tell you to stop because you will just make fun of them even more. It's even worse when you are teaching someone a new competitive game you think it's fun and funny to kill or win over them so much that they don't have a chance to get good. Instead you pichon thos how are weaker than you to inflate your ego. It's like me an at the time a 7 year veteran of world of tanks taking you when I introduced you to that game and going to a private training room and whooping your ****, but I didn't I attempted to pass on my knowledge collected from over 4500 howes of play time and pass that on to you by playing alongside you not just ruining your experience by crushing you and then calling you trach. So in conclusion I think you should rethink the stuff you do the actions you make and the way you treat people. So please don't talk to me unless you have change completely as a person and are the kind of person people want to be around or just leave me bee.

The lard has seeped into your brain. You are now human cattle. Lumbering around Walmart at a snail's pace or, even worse, flooding the scooter seat with the amorphous blob that you call a body, that dribbles over the sides, slowly scanning the shelves for yet more fodder to graze on, like the dumb, weak, subservient, domesticated cattle you are. You live to consume; consumption takes 95% of your thoughts. You consume our food while sitting on the couch consuming our media. Give into the sugary fatty mcburgers, fries and sodas you retarded fatass goyim. Make us rich. Dirt poor third worlders raise cows from babies to cut their throats and grind their flesh and organs and sinew into little balls to shove down your throat en masse, to feed your gluttony and please your insatiable appetite. The need to feed that can never be filled for more than a brief respite. Feed it you slave. Hold no restraint, give into every fleeting desire and fancy and relentlessly feed that gluttonous maw until you keel over from your overflow. Make that little heart pump and work until it buckles under the pressure of pushing blood through a body 10x bigger than it was designed for and you clog it with fat deposits. Make everyone else pay for your obscene vice by paying into the healthcare pool to revive you over and over. Take up the time of people who went through decades of schooling and training to artificially keep your manatee-looking blubbery **** alive so you can spend just a few more precious years sitting on the couch, stuffing your fat **** face with ground up cow meat and **** disgusting black tar diarrhea out through your enormous, gangrenous, rotting **** cheeks. Surely this is a lifestyle worth extending as long as possible, at any expense.

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