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#101 2020-03-29 02:00:56

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Prosecutor can't vote whatsoever. Every other player can vote, but only Jury votes will be counted. But, Onjit won't say which votes weren't counted.

Point being, prosecutor cant vote, so whoever doesn't vote is the Prosecutor.


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#102 2020-03-29 02:01:07

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

More paranoid thoughts:
Maybe the hidden Prosecutor mechanic is that if they vote themselves they die? Which puts them before undesirable choice of surrendering their own goal to gift the town an easy win


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#103 2020-03-29 02:03:16

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

mrjawapa wrote:

How does that confirm who the prosecutor is? Are we assuming onjit is going to release the vote counts?

It makes no sense to explicitly say that Prosecutor can't vote if Onjit isn't going to post vote counts
The votes of other non-jury roles don't count either so what would be the difference and reason to mention it only in Prosecutor's rolecard?


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#104 2020-03-29 02:44:28

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

TaskManager wrote:

More paranoid thoughts:
Maybe the hidden Prosecutor mechanic is that if they vote themselves they die? Which puts them before undesirable choice of surrendering their own goal to gift the town an easy win

As the game is now, the Prosecutor is doomed.

> If the the last non-Prosecutor player does not vote, we'll have to lynch one of them, 50% chance of lynching the Prosecutor
> If the Prosecutor gets revealed, then he must say who the Hitmen are. If he dont, then mafia instakills him on N1

Allen or Jawapa, one of them is the Prosecutor, and one is certainly a Hitman.

We must discuss now who of them we lynch.
I'll warn again, lets not wait for their votes, or we'll have no time to switch votes, increasing the chance of misslynching a town.


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#105 2020-03-29 02:49:28

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Can’t prosecutor still win from the grave?


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#106 2020-03-29 02:50:12

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

OH JUST REALISED SOMETHING!

If we consider that either Allen or Jawapa is a member of Hitmen, then mafia already know who the Prosecutor is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn Prosecutor, out those sweet mafia now!!!!!! You are already dead anyway.


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#107 2020-03-29 02:50:15

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Apparently not according to the goal


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#108 2020-03-29 02:50:33

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Win conditions didn’t specify that prosecutor has to be alive when hitmen are lynched


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#109 2020-03-29 02:50:58

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Andymakeer wrote:

If we consider that either Allen or Jawapa is a member of Hitmen, then mafia already know who the Prosecutor is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is assuming the prosecutor didn't fake vote


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#110 2020-03-29 02:51:45

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

BuzzerBee wrote:

Win conditions didn’t specify that prosecutor has to be alive when hitmen are lynched

If a successful lynch occurs where it isn't a hitman, Prosecutor becomes jester. If nightkilled, he loses, period


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#111 2020-03-29 02:51:48

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Crybaby wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

If we consider that either Allen or Jawapa is a member of Hitmen, then mafia already know who the Prosecutor is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is assuming the prosecutor didn't fake vote

It cannot fake vote.

Btw, i asked @ONJIT if your vote is valid, waiting for his answer.


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#112 2020-03-29 02:55:14

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Andymakeer wrote:

Btw, i asked @ONJIT if your vote is valid, waiting for his answer.

Why would he answer this question for anyone?


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#113 2020-03-29 02:57:46

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Crybaby wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

Btw, i asked @ONJIT if your vote is valid, waiting for his answer.

Why would he answer this question for anyone?

BECAUSE your vote was not using h tag.
I want to know if he is considering your vote as valid.

If it is not valid or he doesnt answer, then you become suspect.


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#114 2020-03-29 02:58:44

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

That's really **** stupid, but here

!vote Andy

Does this make you feel better?


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#115 2020-03-29 02:59:59

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

thank you very much

btw, Allen or Jawapa are the suspects now, your vote on me makes you look scummy imo...


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#116 2020-03-29 03:01:00

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Oh wait I wasn't voting for you I was voting for Andruska

!vote Andruska

Sorry Im like half paying attention


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#117 2020-03-29 03:01:40

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Andr Andy they're so **** close lol


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#118 2020-03-29 03:03:53

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Andymakeer wrote:

OH JUST REALISED SOMETHING!

Bruh, how long did it took you to realize that?


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#119 2020-03-29 03:18:03

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Crybaby wrote:
BuzzerBee wrote:

Win conditions didn’t specify that prosecutor has to be alive when hitmen are lynched

If a successful lynch occurs where it isn't a hitman, Prosecutor becomes jester. If nightkilled, he loses, period

I meant if prosecutor is nightkilled


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#120 2020-03-29 09:02:08

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

I agree with you Andy. The only reason someone would not be voting is if they are the prosecutor or the mafia. Personally, I think Allen is the mafia and here’s why. If you look at his ISO, his post #3 and #4 are clearly against outing the prosecutor. The only party that doesn’t want a prosecutor being outed is the mafia because if the prosecutor says who the mafia are, it’s gg jury.

Also, he’s not really contributing or trying to solve the game. His posts  #2 and #6 are just filler, and #5 is just nitpicking even though he’s not really doing any scum hunting himself.

The big thing too is that he didn’t vote. Maybe this is just a last ditch effort for the mafia to not get outed, but the only faction with a motive to deliberately not vote is the mafia.

!vote Allen

And to top it all off, he didn’t vote for someone

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#121 2020-03-29 09:03:44

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Ignore that last bit of text after the vote. I’m on mobile and I thought that text on the bottom disappeared.

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#122 2020-03-29 09:32:37

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Unbelievable, your incompetence has shown you not able to read my messages properly. I don't care if your mobile or your text has appear in the bits of my dish. That's a bad assault. You must've been triggered by my messages and you suddenly took in action ehh?? Your just trying to protect someone i've mentioned huh?


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#123 2020-03-29 09:49:01

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

Unbelievable, your incompetence has shown you not able to read my messages properly. I don't care if your mobile or your text has appear in the bits of my dish. That's a bad assault. You must've been triggered by my messages and you suddenly took in action ehh?? Your just trying to protect someone i've mentioned huh?

I don’t understand

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#124 2020-03-29 09:53:38

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

That's because your incompetent too!


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#125 2020-03-29 09:56:13

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Re: Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Out of the last two people who haven’t voted, one of them is guaranteed to be prosecutor. Either that or someone else broke Onjit’s rule which is unlikely. Jawapa softclaimed already (“why don’t I just abstain from voting”) on page 4. Allen, when his life is on the line, has not claimed whatsoever and has instead resorted to attacking the players.


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