Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

peace · 2020-03-28 11:38:54

Andymakeer wrote:

!vote peace
So lets do this way:
STARTING FROM ALLEN VOTE, EVERYONE MUST VOTE UNTIL MAR 28 AT 6:49PM ET
IF YOU DONT VOTE, YOU'LL BE WAGONED
ALSO, COUNT THE VOTES SO THE ONE YOU VOTE DOES NOT HAVE MORE THAN 4 VOTES
Thank you very much

why vote for me?

TaskManager wrote:

mfw not sure whether peace just missed my vote or he simply doesnt care anymore

ask let me just ignore that **** pahse vote becuase its obvious its not aligmwnt indicate givne the context

peace · 2020-03-28 11:42:53

heres how i see it everyoen votes btu blue/red party votes will just be subtracted at the end of the day by onjit he then coutns the real votecount and sasy the fninal result to the judge judge will decide if lynch wroth or not (onjti will give him maby a few hours) onit tells if lynch sucessfull or not day ends (if tie day continues fo ranother 24 hrsthen ends) blue men do an action red men kill an target

also...

Andymakeer wrote:

peace wrote:
no if we do that mafia just kill him
mafia would only kill him if he is one of the targets.
after prosecutor uses his power, there is no point for mafia focusing him.

Andymakeer wrote:

ASDruska wrote:
how long until a hitman claims prosecutor and claims 3 random people to kill
if we follow the "All Vote" strategy, then the prosecutor must be the only one that wont end up voting at the end, we'd have a clear crystal confirmation that it is indeed the prosecutor

mafia will kill him because he can reveal all the mafia ofc mafia will kill him mafia not dumb in losing the game that easy lol if pros. sees he will be losigng he can easily reveal all mafia take a loss and let the town/jury win

Edilights · 2020-03-28 11:53:00

!vote Taskmanger

Everyone votes except a player... Anyway all does his own... Please don't think about a thing...

peace · 2020-03-28 13:09:39

yeah andy youve suggested a very bad thing for the town

peace · 2020-03-28 13:10:35

alternatively if pors. got lucky and we lynched 2 hitmen eh can easily claim we lycn the 3rd hitmen and he and town both wins (sinc eno hitman left to kill him )

peace · 2020-03-28 13:11:04

eh

!vote andy

AllenCaspe9510 · 2020-03-28 13:23:14

Meh, I don't really think this is a good play. Making everyone vote just quickly reveals the prosecutor which becomes mafia's top biscuit. Mafia have thier targets, we have known none. But possibly have chances to have a player with a unique role.

ASDruska · 2020-03-28 13:25:51

i think my strat works the most: lynch 2b55b5g

peace · 2020-03-28 13:28:20

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

Meh, I don't really think this is a good play. Making everyone vote just quickly reveals the prosecutor which becomes mafia's top biscuit. Mafia have thier targets, we have known none. But possibly have chances to have a player with a unique role.

mafia probbaly either have lynch person A/b/c/d/e or lynch roleA/b/c/d/e the latter would be a bit too easy if they just have to kill a jury since thiere in the many so i think its just teh first mafia will wantto tkill thir targets but also wanto to kill pors. if pors happens ot be one of thier targets by accident then its an very easy kill for them

2b55b5g · 2020-03-28 14:07:22

Mafia has 5 targets, and they need to kill 3 of them.
Mafia could just kill 3 of their targets in 3 nights.

That means we have to get rid of the mafia BEFORE DAY 4.

I suggest we all follow Andy's plan. Once the prosecutor is revealed this day, the prosecutor should tell us who are the mafia. Then we'll lynch them in D1 - D3.

BuzzerBee · 2020-03-28 15:00:27

Omg
I am literally not reading anything. I didn't realize prosecutor was told all 3 mafia until just now.
Okay I'm gonna start playing for real now, Jesus

Sorry AndyMakeer your strategy didnt make sense to me because I'm dumb af and didnt read

!vote ASDruska

Andymakeer

Minimania · 2020-03-28 16:02:44

Pqwerty wrote:

No, town would win but prosecutor wouldn't. Prosecutor needs to be alive to win (because it's a third-party) and there's no way mafia would let it live. It would be gamethrowing right now. The prosecutor's best strategy is to lay low and drop hints of who the mafia are, or to mislynch someone and try to win as jester.

The prosecutor only becomes the Jester if there is a successful lynch of someone they don't name, so again, why should the Prosecutor not just come out and say who they are?

Minimania · 2020-03-28 16:06:29

Like, honestly, it just seems to me to be the most logical course of action to just claim

peace · 2020-03-28 16:08:20

unless he lsoes if he dies

Minimania · 2020-03-28 16:08:58

peace wrote:

unless he lsoes if he dies

If he dies his faction still exists, so he most certainly will win.

peace · 2020-03-28 16:09:13

in which case if he claims he get nigtkiled N1 no matter what but hey if i was pors. i wouldve cliamed inmediatly aswell so the game got solved on D3 (4 if not beliving me)

Minimania · 2020-03-28 16:10:50

If he gets nightkilled on night 1, his faction. still. exists. He can still win. He needs to claim now.

2b55b5g · 2020-03-28 16:59:21

peace wrote:

in which case if he claims he get nigtkiled N1 no matter what

i honestly don't think that mafia would waste time on prosecutor, unless they're one of their targets.

Andymakeer

Pqwerty · 2020-03-28 17:13:14

Sorry, I’m on mobile. In #24, Task speculated that there’s potentially a secret nerf on the prosecutor that prevents it from just revealing the entire setup. So, maybe that’s what’s going on here.

Also, there’s no rule saying that you win with your faction. In fact, Onjit suggests the opposite in #23 saying that you only win if your own wincon is fulfilled. Hit men and Jury just happen to have the same wincon, so the blue team is more like 3 separate third-parties.

Another thing we could speculate is that the prosecutor is giving the judge a chance to win. If the prosecutor reveals all the roles, there’s no way that the judge can stop a mislynch because all the lynched would be on the hit men. So maybe by not revealing, the prosecutor is allowing the judge to stop a lynch D1 because it has a 75% chance of winning.

One final thing to add, I noticed that the wincon for all the roles are not mutually exclusive. So it is possible for everyone to win.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 18:46:15

peace wrote:

in which case if he claims he get nigtkiled N1 no matter what but hey if i was pors. i wouldve cliamed inmediatly aswell so the game got solved on D3 (4 if not beliving me)

if prosecutor gets confirmed D1 and he reveals his targets, why would mafia targets him first?
everything the prosecutor would do, it already did
mafia targeting prosec would be pretty much a useless night kill, as the prosec cannot vote so his permanence on the game woudn't affect mafia lynchings

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 18:48:07

peace wrote:

why vote for me?

BECAUSE you still have less than 4 votes on you
please read the strategy again

ShadowsEdge · 2020-03-28 18:57:55

Crybaby wrote:

If he gets nightkilled on night 1, his faction. still. exists. He can still win. He needs to claim now.

Not true. Like Pqwerty said, and I believe Onjit has mentioned, the blue members are more likely a third-party faction deal, rather than a faction of their own. And I remember someone saying before that the third-party factions have to be alive in order to win, regardless of if their win condition was met or not.

peace wrote:

heres how i see it everyoen votes btu blue/red party votes will just be subtracted at the end of the day by onjit he then coutns the real votecount and sasy the fninal result to the judge judge will decide if lynch wroth or not (onjti will give him maby a few hours) onit tells if lynch sucessfull or not day ends (if tie day continues fo ranother 24 hrsthen ends) blue men do an action red men kill an target
also...
Andymakeer wrote:
peace wrote:
no if we do that mafia just kill him
mafia would only kill him if he is one of the targets.
after prosecutor uses his power, there is no point for mafia focusing him.
Andymakeer wrote:
ASDruska wrote:
how long until a hitman claims prosecutor and claims 3 random people to kill
if we follow the "All Vote" strategy, then the prosecutor must be the only one that wont end up voting at the end, we'd have a clear crystal confirmation that it is indeed the prosecutor
mafia will kill him because he can reveal all the mafia ofc mafia will kill him mafia not dumb in losing the game that easy lol if pros. sees he will be losigng he can easily reveal all mafia take a loss and let the town/jury win

Not exactly true either. Prosecutor can be mostly confirmed as the Prosecutor, because they cant vote at all. But killing the Prosecutor is only useful to the mafia before they reveal who the mafia are. Once the Prosecutor reveals who the mafia are, if the Mafia kill them all they do is prevent the Prosecutor from winning, and revealing his role, thereby confirming the players they revealed as mafia. Former being a petty reason, and latter being more suicidal.

I don't know exactly what the vote count is, but I think ASDruska currently has the lowest amount of votes.

!vote ASDruska

Andymakeer

ShadowsEdge · 2020-03-28 19:00:23

Oh the formatting was a bit weird in my last post, I meant "All they do is prevent the Prosecutor from winning, and cause his role to be revealed."

My mistake.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 19:01:33

Kira
2B
Shadow
Allen
Jawapa
Crybaby

these guys still have not voted yet
7pm ET is the deadline for voting

My thoughts:
> Allen: is against the All Vote strategy (#57), pretty much suspicious for me, as this strategy is only bad for mafia.
> Crybaby: trying to make the prosecutor roleclaim, but this doesnt guarantee that the claimer is indeed the prosec.
> Jawapa/Kira/2B/Shadow: ?????

ShadowsEdge · 2020-03-28 19:02:15

Hah, get ninja'd

Andymakeer

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#51 2020-03-28 11:38:54

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!vote peace

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