Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:21:49

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mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:23:12

The infection is not a threat to us. I think it's mostly likely that Zelda and peace are still town (Jawapa didn't kill anyone so I can only assume he healed peace) but even if they weren't they can't spread any further because no one will be voting for them. Same applies to diff (unless we discover he can spread without being voted). So, in my opinion, I think we can ignore the infection for now.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:24:01

Crybaby, why do you think peace is potentially mafia? The very idea seems ludicrous to me.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:26:06

The way he begged to return to his former role, and then now he's just silent. This is not damning evidence in any sense, but it does put my suspicions for him slightly there. I've never been 100% sure on him and I have been wrong before, so I don't know

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:27:18

In order of suspicion:
Slabdrill
ShadowsEdge
Mutantdevle
Peace

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:27:22

Different55 wrote:

Went to collect notes on everyone and something stuck out, Slabdrill claims Victory Cop and says Mutant has a "standard" "eliminate all non-town" wincon. Which is odd since even KirbyKira didn't go that far. Even KirbyKira's wincon was just "eliminate all criminals." Anyway, Slab did that N1, and has nothing to report for N2, claiming they investigated Jawapa moments before death. A cover for skipping a night to perform the kill?

I can confirm that my win condition is very standard. Slabdrill even used similar wording as to how my win condition is described. I don't doubt that he has access to learning about people's win conditions - whether that be because he's telling the truth or because he's on the scum team.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:27:59

mutantdevle wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Went to collect notes on everyone and something stuck out, Slabdrill claims Victory Cop and says Mutant has a "standard" "eliminate all non-town" wincon. Which is odd since even KirbyKira didn't go that far. Even KirbyKira's wincon was just "eliminate all criminals." Anyway, Slab did that N1, and has nothing to report for N2, claiming they investigated Jawapa moments before death. A cover for skipping a night to perform the kill?
I can confirm that my win condition is very standard. Slabdrill even used similar wording as to how my win condition is described. I don't doubt that he has access to learning about people's win conditions - whether that be because he's telling the truth or because he's on the scum team.

Is it possible that he just guessed?

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:29:08

Slabdrill could indeed be a wincon cop, but on the side of the mafia team. And also he'd show up as town for investigations if that was the case.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:31:49

peace wrote:

alos why didnt diff die he didnt spread infection... he must have a stronger rolecard also what i find odd is why are wet tryign so hard for an hitman if it MABY dooesnt exist kirby coudld have that wincon wihtout an hitman existing to foool kirby around with guessing now lest read the rest

It would make sense, as the host of the infection, that diff doesn't die from not infecting people. After all, it's kinda unfair to expect someone to be voted for on the first day and he just got lucky that you did. The infection is clearly designed to have fluctuating numbers and I must say that I think it's the best-designed version of a cult I've ever seen in mafia.

Norwee

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:34:56

Yeah if Peace didn't spill the beans i'm pretty sure would have won.

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:35:18

*cult would have won.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:39:32

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

@Mutant what do you think?

To be honest, I think pqwerty is the best lynch today.

I suspect that the hitman role is as I described originally. He has a list of people that he needs to die in order to win. I suspect there are 3 people on the list considering it doesn't seem like he has a night kill. The problem is, we don't know how many people on that list have already died. It could be 0, it could be 2. But either way, if all 3 die then he wins the game and the rest of us lose. So with 1 mafia lynched I think it's a good idea to kill the hitman next as he could spring a win on us any moment especially since, as Crybaby pointed out, if we don't lynch scum today the scum will outnumber us. Pqwerty is the only person that we unanimously agree is scum. Only 2 out of Shadow, Slabdrill and Crybaby are mafia and if we get that wrong we lose; however, we basically know at this point that pqwerty is the hitman. And if the hitman isn't what we think it is then that means they have a win condition completely unknown to us which is even more dangerous in a setup where if someone wins the game ends.

Minimania

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:40:52

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You claimed vig, didn’t specify it was 1-shot until later.

Really? I thought it's been long established that Crybaby was only 1-shot. Maybe I just assumed it but this whole time I've thought Crybaby was only 1-shot.

Minimania

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:42:34

Oh yeah. Game ends if someone's win condition is fulfilled. I forgot about that. I guess it's reasonable to assume that if Pqwerty is the hitman then one or both of his targets are Slabdrill and Crybaby?

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:43:04

Crybaby wrote:

Also, don't even bring up Kira as if I'm the only one who invited. Both you and Mutantdevle conceded to him

I don't recall ever conceding to Kira. I was willing to accept that he had been framed but I was adamantly for his lynch the entire day.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:44:21

Crybaby wrote:

Also if Slabdrill is the Godfather why don't we have 2 kills each night?

Godfather, in its standard form, is just a mafia member that shows up as town to investigations. They don't have an extra kill.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:45:48

Crybaby, it confuses me why you would defend Slabdrill. If he is actually town then you are 100% scum.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:48:16

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Oh yeah. Game ends if someone's win condition is fulfilled. I forgot about that. I guess it's reasonable to assume that if Pqwerty is the hitman then one or both of his targets are Slabdrill and Crybaby?

Would explain why Pqwerty started a wagon on me, though given he chose me instead of Slabdrill makes me think Slabdrill wasn't one of those people

mutantdevle wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Also, don't even bring up Kira as if I'm the only one who invited. Both you and Mutantdevle conceded to him
I don't recall ever conceding to Kira. I was willing to accept that he had been framed but I was adamantly for his lynch the entire day.

Me too but apparently my unvote to Norboy means that Kira and I were married or something

mutantdevle wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Also if Slabdrill is the Godfather why don't we have 2 kills each night?
Godfather, in its standard form, is just a mafia member that shows up as town to investigations. They don't have an extra kill.

Huh...

I became familiar with Mafia through JKParty and iirc their Godfather had an extra kill since they used a lot of players in those games

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:48:56

mutantdevle wrote:

Crybaby, it confuses me why you would defend Slabdrill. If he is actually town then you are 100% scum.

My intention was not to defend Slabdrill but to call out what I thought was a fault in the Godfather theory

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:52:18

The only thing that's really consistent about the godfather role is that they show up as innocent if investigated. There might be some extra modification to the role if Onjit used it, but that's really the only thing that really is for certain about it. I don't think it has an extra kill, nor am i sure whether lynching the godfather automatically ends the game, but i assume not since my win condition specifies that "all threats to the town must be eliminated".

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:53:50

This is (at least what I consider to be) the official version of the Godfather: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Godfather

This is what is considered standard for MafiaScum, MafiaUniverse (I think), Town Of Salem, and the card game Werewolf.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-03 13:54:19

Crybaby wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
Crybaby, it confuses me why you would defend Slabdrill. If he is actually town then you are 100% scum.
My intention was not to defend Slabdrill but to call out what I thought was a fault in the Godfather theory

Yes but if the Godfather theory is wrong then it means you are mafia.

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:54:49

Between Pqwerty and Slabdrill i'd much prefer for us to lynch Slabdrill.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 13:55:59

mutantdevle wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
Crybaby, it confuses me why you would defend Slabdrill. If he is actually town then you are 100% scum.
My intention was not to defend Slabdrill but to call out what I thought was a fault in the Godfather theory
Yes but if the Godfather theory is wrong then it means you are mafia.

I know, I was wrong about it and I concede that

Norwee · 2019-12-03 13:56:34

If Pqwerty is hitman and prefers voting Crybaby then i don't think us lynching Slabdrill would fulfull his wincon today.

Minimania

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