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#576 2019-12-02 00:58:09

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

If Zelda gets infected then Peace will survive since he would have successfully infected someone. Shouldn't we save him?


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#577 2019-12-02 00:58:31

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Or kill him, either way


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#578 2019-12-02 01:03:04

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

I think it would be better to save peace and stick to the plan of you shooting diff. If shadow role blocks you it doesn't matter too much since diff can't infect anyone.



Also, I've just thought @Zelda don't revote peace.

We don't need to give peace the chance to spread the infection if we can help it. Jawapa will heal him during the night which is likely to resolve before he dies from not infecting anybody (he'd die at the start of the day). And if it doesn't, peace just dies. I consider that kinda bad since we need to keep numbers up for voting but honestly Zelda not revoting is a win/win situation.


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#579 2019-12-02 01:30:48

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Win/win how? Zelda's lost the whole game right now. Which makes it kinda bizarre that his alignment is town. It's town-compatible for sure but he can't win right now even if the town does.


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#580 2019-12-02 01:32:00

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

mrjawapa wrote:
Slabdrill wrote:

I'm actually really suspicious of peace+jawapa

No one has voted for peace today... right?

I'm not healing him.

I'm not inspecting a random person, because that's likely to end in a townie being accidentally killed.

Honestly this is all the proof I need that your healing role is a mafia-aligned mad scientist type.


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#581 2019-12-02 01:34:14

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

mutantdevle wrote:

I think it would be better to save peace and stick to the plan of you shooting diff. If shadow role blocks you it doesn't matter too much since diff can't infect anyone.

I was roleblocked last night. If I was patient zero, I couldn't infect anyone. Clearly, it's someone else and they don't work the same way peace does now.


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#582 2019-12-02 01:36:07

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Oh wait just saw the post about shadow yeah he's definitely maf and we can't trust what he said about roleblocking me.


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#583 2019-12-02 01:36:34

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:

I think it would be better to save peace and stick to the plan of you shooting diff. If shadow role blocks you it doesn't matter too much since diff can't infect anyone.

I was roleblocked last night. If I was patient zero, I couldn't infect anyone. Clearly, it's someone else and they don't work the same way peace does now.

Diff....

Different55 wrote:

Oh right I guess I would have gotten some sort of message maybe although that seems unlikely.

I didn't get any notifications of any kind last night, and I'm not immune to roleblocks. Kinda confused what a roleblock would do to me anyway since it seems like my only ability is a reactive one (kill anyone who kills me).

You just outed yourself buddy...

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#584 2019-12-02 01:37:12

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

I'm killing you tonight Diff. Say your prayers.

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#585 2019-12-02 01:39:41

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Onjit wrote:

The final vote count:

[7] KirbyKareem: Kirby, Norboy, Mutantdelve, Different55, Kira, Pqwerty, Crybaby
[1] Norboy: KirbyKareem
[1] Different55: Peace

Furthermore proved by the final vote. There's no way you're getting out of this Diff.

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#586 2019-12-02 01:42:11

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

And this proves it once and for all:

Peace wrote:

'You have caught a nasty disease from someone you had the misfortune of voting for.'

It's over.

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#587 2019-12-02 01:45:34

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

!unvote


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#588 2019-12-02 01:45:57

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Who are we going to lynch today


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#589 2019-12-02 01:45:58

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#590 2019-12-02 01:46:55

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Current votes:

[3] Kira: Mutantdevle, Peace, Different55
[2] ShadowsEdge: Kira, Norboy

About 23 hours remain. [Link]


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#591 2019-12-02 02:26:40

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Alright, I have a problem with ShadowsEdge and I feel the need to address it.

- He has claimed town roleblocker on night 2
- He claimed that he roleblocked Diff on night 1
- Assuming Diff was a Jester, this would have had no effect. Rather convenient
- Assuming Diff was the person spreading the infection, this doesn't seem to have had any effect considering Peace is infected. Rather convenient.

Looked at his Iso

- Scummy night 1
- Claimed he was purposefully trying to act scummy on night 1 so the Mafia wouldn't kill him.
- I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, however

-When confronted about it by Kira, he doesn't really seem able to defend himself. Aside from explaining why he wasn't up front with Norboy, his only other defense was that he had several people campaigning against him. This can be stressful or something but it isn't a defense, so unless you were pointing it out to point it out, I don't see how it's important.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I claimed Roleblocker because I had information to provide. And I don't regret claiming it, because after I die, my information will be confirmed, and will be able to be used to find the actual scum.

What information did it provide? The infection has been confirmed to exist. Peace is infected, claims Diff caused it, Jawapa confirmed that Peace can be healed by him. Kira and I are both targeting Diff tonight so there's no way he can't die unless there is some other role the Mafia has besides a simple roleblocker.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I'm not buying your roleclaim. If Diff was a Jester, then claiming to have blocked him would be too convenient. If Diff really is the cult leader, then it makes no sense to me that he managed to infect other people.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

because after I die, my information will be confirmed, and will be able to be used to find the actual scum.

Dont mean to nitpick, but, this statement seems almost like you're expecting to die, and it seems like the same thing Kira was doing earlier, too.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Does Vigilante's guilt happen in this game?

I didn't see this before until now, could you explain?


Atm, you're my top suspicion because things just seem to convenient for you


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#592 2019-12-02 02:29:08

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 wrote:

Honestly this is all the proof I need that your healing role is a mafia-aligned mad scientist type.

but it's not


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#593 2019-12-02 02:47:37

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

!vote ShadowsEdge


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#594 2019-12-02 02:52:41

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Current votes:

[3] Kira: Mutantdevle, Peace, Different55
[3] ShadowsEdge: Kira, Norboy, Crybaby

About 22 hours remain. [Link]


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#595 2019-12-02 02:54:27

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Crybaby wrote:

-When confronted about it by Kira, he doesn't really seem able to defend himself. Aside from explaining why he wasn't up front with Norboy, his only other defense was that he had several people campaigning against him. This can be stressful or something but it isn't a defense, so unless you were pointing it out to point it out, I don't see how it's important.

Because I really don't have a defense. I made my claim, I presented my information, but beyond that I don't actually have a reason for all of you to believe that I'm not Mafia. I pointed it out because Im in a crappy situation, my role makes me look scummy, I played the scummy game Day 1, and to top it all off, I'm suspected by all of the top dogs. Can you really say that with all of this I can provide a viable defense to actually make you believe me?

Crybaby wrote:

What information did it provide? The infection has been confirmed to exist. Peace is infected, claims Diff caused it, Jawapa confirmed that Peace can be healed by him. Kira and I are both targeting Diff tonight so there's no way he can't die unless there is some other role the Mafia has besides a simple roleblocker.

It provided reasoning to distrust the infection. How has the infection been "confirmed" to exist. The only way it has been "confirmed" was by metagaming Onjit's posts, but Onjit has said that even if the Infection was a lie and we asked questions about it, he would talk about it as if it were true. That's not a reason to believe that it's "confirmed." So that leave's it all towards Peace and Jawapa, who not only support each other as town, but are the sole advocates of the infection.

Crybaby wrote:

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I'm not buying your roleclaim. If Diff was a Jester, then claiming to have blocked him would be too convenient. If Diff really is the cult leader, then it makes no sense to me that he managed to infect other people.

If Peace is infected, then more likely than not Patient Zero has different conditions than the infectees, which I've mentioned before. My actions are what they are, and I chose to roleblock Diff, so if you think that's too convenient then so be it.

Crybaby wrote:

Dont mean to nitpick, but, this statement seems almost like you're expecting to die, and it seems like the same thing Kira was doing earlier, too.

I expect to die soon. Maybe I won't die today, but more likely than not, I'll either be lynched today or tomorrow because of the crappy situation I'm in.

Crybaby wrote:

I didn't see this before until now, could you explain?

Aka, if a Vigilante shoots a townmember, will they die from it?

Crybaby wrote:

Atm, you're my top suspicion because things just seem to convenient for you

Fair enough.

mutantdevle wrote:

I think it would be better to save peace and stick to the plan of you shooting diff. If shadow role blocks you it doesn't matter too much since diff can't infect anyone.

I wouldn't be roleblocking either of them, I'm still going to be going for whoever I find the most scummy. But if you still believe I'm the Mafia Roleblocker then, whatever floats your boat.


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#596 2019-12-02 02:55:20

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

According to Shadow, I was roleblocked last night. I received no messages or notifications. There's no contradiction. Try harder.


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#597 2019-12-02 02:57:07

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 wrote:

According to Shadow, I was roleblocked last night. I received no messages or notifications. There's no contradiction. Try harder.

What do you mean "Try harder"


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#598 2019-12-02 02:57:16

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Thought: what if Shadow's the cult leader?


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#599 2019-12-02 02:57:55

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

ShadowsEdge wrote:
Different55 wrote:

According to Shadow, I was roleblocked last night. I received no messages or notifications. There's no contradiction. Try harder.

What do you mean "Try harder"

Kira claiming I'm outing myself to draw attention away from him


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#600 2019-12-02 02:57:59

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Aka, if a Vigilante shoots a townmember, will they die from it?

Yes


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