Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:14:34

Crybaby wrote:

Of course, he'll inevitably die. He'll just end up being a pretty big deciding factor in the game, as SKs tend to be.

And that’s coming from the guy that endgamed as SK in one of Onjit’s earlier games...

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:23:58

I don’t think i’ve played with Pqwerty before, but the fact that he seems to make some really valid points and has a good tone for what i assume is his first game is... worrying.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:46:59

ShadowsEdge gives me some really bad juju looking back on his ISO. No townreads. "Nobody can be trusted." It doesn’t seem like a town ISO. More like sowing suspicion and deliberately avoiding to solve the game.

ShadowsEdge · 2019-11-30 08:49:18

Pqwerty wrote:

Also, can Peace explain why he thought we shouldn't trust ZeldaXD's mason claim, can ShadowsEdge please explain the distrust in NorwegianBoy and the claim that we can't communicate fully (criticized by Kira in #130), can Crybaby explain the thought process behind #157, and can Diff explain why he keeps saying he's scum?

Norwegian said for us to distrust him. I don't distrust Norwegian as being town, he's confirmed as town. My issue is in the fact that with confirmed town members, they have all the cards, they can essentially alter the entire consensus of the town, since no one has any reason to distrust them.

The reason for the distrust is to avoid that. Norwegian is a good player, and I do believe they'll do their best to lead us, but they're still a simple townie, they can be wrong, and if everyone follows them blindly, then it can lead to bad results sometimes.

I explained the reason why we can't "Communicate fully." It's just a matter of trust. Everyone has their own information, and not everyone will share everything, because any information they share here will have to be shared publicly, which means to the Mafia as well.

Kira's issue with me is that we were talking about different subtopics. Kira was referring more to general consensus, such as agreeing to not follow wagons blindly, while I was talking about general distrust through the town. While they do tie into the same topic, they're different in a sense, and what I was criticized for isn't for fault, but I was talking about something separate. Though, what Kira said isn't wrong.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I don’t think i’ve played with Pqwerty before, but the fact that he seems to make some really valid points and has a good tone for what i assume is his first game is... worrying.

That's true, but you never know if he's played any other Mafia-type games in other platforms.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:52:02

Though i will add that skirting around any real commitment to reads is a consistent part of Shadow’s meta. Whether town or scum.

ShadowsEdge · 2019-11-30 08:53:50

Last game I did commit fully to my reads. That's how I continued Mutant's Nomination Mafia flashbacks.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:57:03

I’m not going to go as far as post a reads list yet, but i do think Jawapa and Diff is still looking a bit sketchy as i pointed out yesterday.

mutantdevle · 2019-11-30 09:10:52

Unless Hitman is just a flavour name, traditionally it’s basically an executioner with extra steps.

They are given multiple targets (typically either 3 or 5) either 1 at a time or in a list. They sometimes have their own night kill and sometimes don’t (usually depending on their number of targets). To win the game all of their targets must die through any means (lynch, night kills, mod kills, etc.).

Again, Onjit’s version of the hitman could be completely different. But that’s my best guess based on what the role traditionally is.

Minimania

Onjit · 2019-11-30 09:43:34

I forgot to put a countdown link up again, so here it is: [Link]

Norwee · 2019-11-30 10:00:09

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Norwegian said for us to distrust him. I don't distrust Norwegian as being town, he's confirmed as town. My issue is in the fact that with confirmed town members, they have all the cards, they can essentially alter the entire consensus of the town, since no one has any reason to distrust them.
The reason for the distrust is to avoid that. Norwegian is a good player, and I do believe they'll do their best to lead us, but they're still a simple townie, they can be wrong, and if everyone follows them blindly, then it can lead to bad results sometimes.

Distrust is a bit strong. I don't want anyone to distrust me, i want people to read what i say and show a natural thought process that makes it believable that they reached that same or a different conclusion by themselves. It's a bit of a strange tone in your post here. I won't deny that confirmed townies have more power over the town. But you seem to present this fact as a very negative thing. Almost like you want for the town to reach the conclusion that they shouldn't listen to or trust what we say.

mutantdevle · 2019-11-30 10:21:06

This is my readslist from townie to scummy:

peace
Slabdrill
mrjawapa
ShadowsEdge
Different55
Crybaby
Pqwerty
Kira

mutantdevle · 2019-11-30 10:24:59

Slabdrill shouldn't be that high lol

Norwee · 2019-11-30 10:34:12

!Vote Pqwerty

I’ll be keeping my vote here for a bit.

Onjit · 2019-11-30 10:36:47

Current Votes:

[1] Pqwerty: Norboy

mutantdevle · 2019-11-30 10:41:36

That's a bad vote. Did you see my list? Try going 1 lower.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 10:51:00

mutantdevle wrote:

That's a bad vote. Did you see my list? Try going 1 lower.

Wtf lol.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 10:55:07

That’s got to be possibly the worst post Mutant has made in a game of mafia that i’ve ever seen.

Slabdrill

Minimania · 2019-11-30 10:57:28

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Of course, he'll inevitably die. He'll just end up being a pretty big deciding factor in the game, as SKs tend to be.
And that’s coming from the guy that endgamed as SK in one of Onjit’s earlier games...

Unless you think none of us would find an SK before the same number of townies match the same number of Mafia, then I stand by what I said. I won because of happenstance.

It isn't an SK role anyway, as Mutant pointed out.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 11:00:27

Crybaby wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Of course, he'll inevitably die. He'll just end up being a pretty big deciding factor in the game, as SKs tend to be.
And that’s coming from the guy that endgamed as SK in one of Onjit’s earlier games...
Unless you think none of us would find an SK before the same number of townies match the same number of Mafia, then I stand by what I said. I won because of happenstance.
It isn't an SK role anyway, as Mutant pointed out.

Yeah i noticed that. But it is listed as a requirement for Kirbys win condition, that’s why i assumed it was an anti town role, and SK is the closest thing thst comes to mind.

Minimania · 2019-11-30 11:07:01

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Of course, he'll inevitably die. He'll just end up being a pretty big deciding factor in the game, as SKs tend to be.
And that’s coming from the guy that endgamed as SK in one of Onjit’s earlier games...
Unless you think none of us would find an SK before the same number of townies match the same number of Mafia, then I stand by what I said. I won because of happenstance.
It isn't an SK role anyway, as Mutant pointed out.
Yeah i noticed that. But it is listed as a requirement for Kirbys win condition, that’s why i assumed it was an anti town role, and SK is the closest thing thst comes to mind.

That's... why I brought it up?

I turned out to be wrong

peace · 2019-11-30 11:10:37

**** somethign happaned to me this night i got infected by someone and now i cant win anymore as town i lost my full role and i cna only win by infectign people or i can get cured yeah this setup has some traps in it deffinetly okay someone whp has an cure role could cure me next night and i could help the town again i dont want to win wiht this infected role i want to win as town member

Norwee · 2019-11-30 11:12:47

Omg. Does this game has cults too?
Who infected you Peace?

Slabdrill

Minimania · 2019-11-30 11:17:06

okay

what the ****

peace · 2019-11-30 11:18:41

okay but whatever i can do wiht my new role is i can infect literaly anyone and i iwn ehen i infected everyone/everyone is dead i can even infect mafia memmbers but every infecte dplaye rget my same role card now were tlakign baout an hit man there oculd be 4 factions or th whitman is either maf/town sided and we talked abotu a possible jester i don tthink he takes place that woudl be too bastard

Minimania · 2019-11-30 11:20:38

I'm gonna have to call bull ****

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