Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Onjit · 2019-11-29 02:03:07

The final vote count:

[7] KirbyKareem: Kirby, Norboy, Mutantdelve, Different55, Kira, Pqwerty, Crybaby
[1] Norboy: KirbyKareem
[1] Different55: Peace

KirbyKareem reached a majority of the votes, and now his time is up. Despite putting little to no effort into making a defense for himself, there is at least one other person who is upset at this outcome - his brother.
KirbyKareem was a Brother In Arms, but now he is no more (because he's dead).

Night 1 begins now. It will last 24 hours. Please send me your night actions via PM.

▼Brother In Arms Role Card

rat, mrjawapa

Onjit · 2019-11-30 01:18:24

Last night, there was a commotion, but only a single person was missing the next day. Kirby. In his hands he was clutching a weird book. Turns out he was Kira (no the other one).
(On the plus side, at least now the Kirby/KirbyKareem confusion is sorted once and for all)

Day 2 begins now. It will end in 72 hours [Link], or if a majority [6] is reached.

Please vote in the form !vote <player> or !endday in [ h ] tags.

▼Kira (no the other one)'s Role Card

Norwee · 2019-11-30 01:22:15

That role card is giving me a headache already.
And wtf is a hitman?

Minimania · 2019-11-30 01:23:09

sounds like some sort of serial killer role

Minimania · 2019-11-30 01:24:57

Well ****, that's really bad for us

Norwee · 2019-11-30 01:25:30

A SK changes everything tbh.

Minimania · 2019-11-30 01:27:49

Given this new role really is a Serial Killer, and only one person died last night, then maybe the Mafia targeted the Hitman for a kill but didn't succeed? If that's true, then that's really really bad for us because they would know who that person is and try to partner up with them for their own benefit

Norwee · 2019-11-30 01:27:58

And i’m pretty sure this is a role bastard game.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 01:34:57

Kirby literally had a list of the roles which would have been extremely helpful for town and he didn’t share it. And now he’s dead.
Thanks...

Minimania · 2019-11-30 01:38:11

Yeah, that was a really important kill

Norwee · 2019-11-30 01:44:52

Crybaby wrote:

Given this new role really is a Serial Killer, and only one person died last night, then maybe the Mafia targeted the Hitman for a kill but didn't succeed? If that's true, then that's really really bad for us because they would know who that person is and try to partner up with them for their own benefit

So you are assuming the "hitman" killed Kirby while mafia targeted the hitman? Not any protective roles or mafia killing Kirby?

Kira · 2019-11-30 01:59:25

Hold on, is a hitman really a serial killer?

I doubt there is more than 1 or 2 neutrals, since this is a closed unleaked setup we shouldn't jump on conclusions too fast. First and foremost, do we have any leads from Night 1?

Minimania · 2019-11-30 02:45:35

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Given this new role really is a Serial Killer, and only one person died last night, then maybe the Mafia targeted the Hitman for a kill but didn't succeed? If that's true, then that's really really bad for us because they would know who that person is and try to partner up with them for their own benefit
So you are assuming the "hitman" killed Kirby while mafia targeted the hitman? Not any protective roles or mafia killing Kirby?

Serial Killers in previous games have been immune to night kills, remember?

Minimania · 2019-11-30 02:46:13

Either way, I find it suspicious that there's a non Mafia team criminal and only 1 person died last night.

ShadowsEdge · 2019-11-30 03:44:19

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Kirby literally had a list of the roles which would have been extremely helpful for town and he didn’t share it. And now he’s dead.

I assume Onjit had some sort of system in place that prevented Kirby from revealing all of that information. Not concrete, but Onjit doesn't want to share the setup with us directly, which means there's something to be hidden in it. For a role to just know the entire setup, and to be able to just willingly reveal all that information sort of defeats that purpose of having a closed setup.

Crybaby wrote:

because they would know who that person is and try to partner up with them for their own benefit

The Mafia knowing who the Hitman is wouldn't be a drastic fall for us. The Mafia wouldn't have any way to communicate with said Hitman other than in the public. If they choose to show their scumminess to the Hitman to show that they're the mafia in order to team up with them, then the Town can pick up on it. If they continue to act Towny, it'll likely just make them a target to the Hitman.

That's how I see it, unless there are special mechanics going on in this game that allow for the Mafia to do so in another way.

Slabdrill · 2019-11-30 03:59:17

what the hell, that victory condition isnt the same as the real townies

Slabdrill · 2019-11-30 04:11:15

or at least mine, not sure if others are all different

Kira · 2019-11-30 04:33:28

Slabdrill wrote:

what the hell, that victory condition isnt the same as the real townies

Slabdrill wrote:

or at least mine, not sure if others are all different

I assume it has to do with Kirby's role card per se, seeing as my rolecard's win condition is also different than his.
It's part of the setup. ZeldaXD's and Kareem's win condition are:

"You will win if you and your brother are alive at the end of the game."

and Kirby's:

"You will win when all criminals are eliminated (3 Mafia, Hitman)"

This makes me think that each member has a different win condition. This could be furthemore proven by Norwegianboy, if he is willing to share his win condition since he is confirmed Townie.

Pqwerty · 2019-11-30 07:38:39

Hey, in addition to getting NorwegianBoy to say his win condition, can we talk about Crybaby's hammer? Jawapa and ZeldaXD think it was scummy (because the hammer was too quick and could've been prevented), and NorwegianBoy thinks that it wasn't (because he says Crybaby would try harder to blend in and wouldn't quickhammer if he was scum).

Personally, I thought that KK was just going to be scum or afKK (ba dm tss) for the whole game, and that Crybaby was just putting us out of our misery.
I think Norwegian's townread on him is odd, because Crybaby is now "trying harder", but it doesn't seem to make him any scummier (even though he says that Crybaby tries harder as scum). I'm not incriminating Norwegian because I know he's town, but I just doubt that his scumtell/towntell for Crybaby is rock-solid.

Also, can Peace explain why he thought we shouldn't trust ZeldaXD's mason claim, can ShadowsEdge please explain the distrust in NorwegianBoy and the claim that we can't communicate fully (criticized by Kira in #130), can Crybaby explain the thought process behind #157, and can Diff explain why he keeps saying he's scum?

Minimania · 2019-11-30 08:00:53

Because I wanted him dead. He's worth better dead when it gives us information than he is alive. There was no way he was going to be able to talk himself out of the situation he was in, and prolonging his demise would have inevitably gotten someone else probably more skilled at the game killed.

Minimania · 2019-11-30 08:01:48

Also, even if he roleclaimed, it would have just made the Mason role essentially useless

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:02:20

Just read my rolecard lol. Onjit literally gives it in his second post. There’s my win condition.

Norwee · 2019-11-30 08:07:28

So i’m guessing hitman is not town alligned and it’s in my interest to eliminate him, whoever and whatever he is.

Minimania · 2019-11-30 08:10:04

Depends, doesn't seem to be Mafia aligned either. Cops should find him and oust him as soon as possible. Then we can vote to destroy him... or we could make a deal with him to keep him alive if he agrees to help take out the Mafia. Only one person died yesterday, so if it's anything like the Serial Killer role, then either the Mafia knows who he is or vice versa. The Mafia would keep him alive, and he probably would do the same until ousted.

Minimania · 2019-11-30 08:10:53

Of course, he'll inevitably die. He'll just end up being a pretty big deciding factor in the game, as SKs tend to be.

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