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#551 2019-10-31 13:58:32

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:

2B if you trust Kirby's claim the most then go for it and vote him up

Vote Norboy up* lmao


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#552 2019-10-31 13:58:47

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
Kirby wrote:

if i somehow don't get roleblocked tonight, who should i investigate N2?

2B maybe

You are in no position to advise on who should be investigated lol.

Hhahahahahah
Look who's talking
You're in no position either cause you very well know how this will end for you

I never said I was - hence why I didn't offer up my own suggestion as to who I think Kirby should investigate.


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#553 2019-10-31 14:02:18

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

!prod Daneeko


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#554 2019-10-31 14:05:45

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Hey guys, completely mentally sane Norwegianboy here.
No mental breakdowns since at least 87 (and counting!) days ago. You won't find better success rate in the entirety of the EE forums. 100% Guaranteed warranty on product.


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#555 2019-10-31 14:06:16

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

¥unvote

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#556 2019-10-31 14:07:22

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
Kirby wrote:

if i somehow don't get roleblocked tonight, who should i investigate N2?

2B maybe

You are in no position to advise on who should be investigated lol.

Hhahahahahah
Look who's talking
You're in no position either cause you very well know how this will end for you

I never said I was - hence why I didn't offer up my own suggestion as to who I think Kirby should investigate.

Yeah but he didn't address his question towards anyone in particular, so I'm free to give ideas. Plus, judging by woots under my post, at least 2 people agreed with me. Your comment was completely unnecessary and, I assume, only aimed at irritating me, which it did


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#557 2019-10-31 14:16:48

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Luka504 wrote:

"So you're saying" arguments are very fallacious and are only really ever used in bad faith. They're used to rewrite what the other person has said to make it easier to attack; a strawman, essentially.

"So you're saying" is only fallacious when used in the context of trying to shade someone. I don't know whether I poorly communicated to you or whether you're just reading my tone wrong, but I'm clearly just trying to understand the point you're trying to make/what you're thought process is. At no point have I attacked you for it.

Luka504 wrote:

These are wild hypothetical 'what if' questions that describe scenarios that are unlikely to happen. Again, often used in bad faith because they're, in most cases, misleading.
Aside from the innocent child, the possibility for any role to screw up always exists. Cops can investigate someone who ends up dying that same night, vigis could end up shooting someone innocent, and doctors could end up saving a mafia's life from a vigi bullet.
That's the inherent risk of being a power role; you risk making things worse for your faction, and using what as grounds to lynch someone is pretty stupid.

I don't understand why you think those hypotheticals are unlikely to happen. There's nothing wild or crazy about what I've been saying. The roleblocker, if left alive, is going to block someone. Considering we have several claimed cops that's almost certainly going to take the form of them preventing a cop from getting more information. What part of pointing that out is intended to mislead you?

I don't see why our own power roles screwing up is relevant to eliminating the mafia roleblocker. Just because there's a chance things could go wrong anyway doesn't mean we shouldn't eliminate the threat that actively tries to make things go wrong.

Luka504 wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:

then in your very next post literally **** say you could never trust me because of my previous defence of Norwegianboy???

I literally did not do that.

What are you saying then? Would or would you not trust me if taskmanager is scum? Because what you're telling me is that you don't trust me because of my links to norwegianboy. Nobody is denying that norwegianboy is scum. Norwegianboy is still going to be scum even when TaskManager flips. Hence, is it not logical to conclude that even with taskmanager's flip you wouldn't trust me?


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#558 2019-10-31 14:19:57

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:

But if we lynch Norboy today and he flips scum, Mutant is almost definitely his scum buddy, and then we don't have to sacrifice myself to prove mutant's guilt

I'd like to just point out that yet again TaskManager leaves open the possibility that I am town. I am claiming a guilty on you task. If you were really town then from your point of view there should be no way that I'm not scum - regardless of Norwegianboy's flip.


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#559 2019-10-31 14:22:57

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:

But if we lynch Norboy today and he flips scum, Mutant is almost definitely his scum buddy, and then we don't have to sacrifice myself to prove mutant's guilt

I'd like to just point out that yet again TaskManager leaves open the possibility that I am town. I am claiming a guilty on you task. If you were really town then from your point of view there should be no way that I'm not scum - regardless of Norwegianboy's flip.

I'm speaking from Town's perspective
I know you're 100% scum, they don't
And I did say you're scum regardless of Norboy's flip so don't you dare pull that stuff on me

TaskManager wrote:

I'm pretty sure he's mafia, and if he flips red that makes Mutant's alignment even more apparent to others. Even though I'm 100% sure mutant is scum anyway

Mutant what are you going to do if I flip green?


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#560 2019-10-31 14:23:03

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:

why is peace's mafia causing so many breakdowns //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad

I'd just like to say that my 'breakdown' was completely unrelated to the game. Though, it's possible that peace's typing may have given me a minor seizure at some point that took a while to take effect.


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#561 2019-10-31 14:24:11

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:

why is peace's mafia causing so many breakdowns //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad

I'd just like to say that my 'breakdown' was completely unrelated to the game. Though, it's possible that peace's typing may have given me a minor seizure at some point that took a while to take effect.

Yeah I know
I wasn't completely serious with that statement, rather jokingly pointing out a coincidence


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#562 2019-10-31 14:25:45

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:

Mutant what are you going to do if I flip green?

Have another breakdown.
Yell at peace.
Cry.
Hate myself.


Not necessarily in that order.


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#563 2019-10-31 14:26:20

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:

Once I'll flip Town you wont last for long and theres no framers to lie yourself out of it.

Shut the hell up

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#564 2019-10-31 14:26:41

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:

Also, you were town reading me before I claimed. I don’t understand how you’re claim makes you trust me less?

This should say "I don't understand how my claim makes you trust me less.


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#565 2019-10-31 14:31:24

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

!vote TaskManager
If your only defense is "guiz pls trust when i flip town after lync //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad", you shouldn't be playing maf

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#566 2019-10-31 14:32:16

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

mutantdevle wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:

Also, you were town reading me before I claimed. I don’t understand how you’re claim makes you trust me less?

This should say "I don't understand how my claim makes you trust me less.

Where's that from
Are you talking to me

Bimps wrote:
TaskManager wrote:

Once I'll flip Town you wont last for long and theres no framers to lie yourself out of it.

Shut the hell up

Hey Blimps!
It's nice you're taking an active part in the game
Really proud of you //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile


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#567 2019-10-31 14:34:30

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

♡vote task

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#568 2019-10-31 14:34:35

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Kira wrote:

Mafia has a Roleblocker + a free kill, so 2 cops will be entirely useless tonight

Kira considering you said this why do you still feel that it's better to lynch norwegianboy before taskmanager?


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#569 2019-10-31 14:34:39

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Bimps wrote:

If your only defense is "guiz pls trust when i flip town after lync ", you shouldn't be playing maf

Says the Mr. Reasonable himself
cmon lmao
You forgot to say "ez scum in the bag" btw


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#570 2019-10-31 14:34:56

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:

Also, you were town reading me before I claimed. I don’t understand how you’re claim makes you trust me less?

This should say "I don't understand how my claim makes you trust me less.

Where's that from
Are you talking to me

No it was to Kira.


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#571 2019-10-31 14:39:24

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

vote count¿¿¿¿


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#572 2019-10-31 14:44:49

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

TaskManager wrote:

vote count¿¿¿¿

8 votes needed to lynch


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#573 2019-10-31 15:03:07

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

You guys are hard to keep up with.

Make a **** decision.


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#574 2019-10-31 15:05:11

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

ok

§vote jawapa

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#575 2019-10-31 15:06:34

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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Okay, it's probably a little early for this, but based on today's events I have a hypothesis on who I think all the mafia are. I think the mafia team is TaskManager, Norwegianboy, jawapa, Crybaby, and 2B55.

The first 2 are simply that we have guilties on them.

I think jawapa is scum primarily because of his reaction of scepticism towards Kirby and his then turn to try and discredit me. I don't really see why he'd believe my claim but not Kirby's. I think jawapa was comfortable with losing one of his teammates to a guilty but drew the line at 2 and hence tried to shut one of us down. He realised pretty quickly that there was no real way to discredit Kirby so switched to me considering people were already sceptical.

This is where Crybaby comes in. His claim is what justifies the scepticism of mine. He's claiming role cops don't see alignment but I'm claiming they do. Furthermore, by not directly claiming I'm scum, it gives him wiggle room after my flip. It's actually a pretty clever fake claim given how peace makes the details of roles somewhat ambiguous. But the thing is, peace has already told us how the role works:

peace wrote:

town role cop get sto know the role card saying the role name and the faction

This is taken from https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 33#p765933 in the sign-up thread.

Finally, I think 2B55 is the last member based on my speculation around taskmanager yesterday. 2B55 very clearly didn't want to vote for taskmanager back then but set himself up to have a reason to be on the wagon if it ever got to the stage where taskmanager was more than likely going to be lynched. He's also been oddly absent from the game which is unlike him at all so that makes me think he is mafia too.



Admittedly, some of this is just speculation. But this is where my head's at right now and I honestly can't see much if any of it being wrong.


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