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- mutantdevle
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
but.. that doesn't hurt the plan does it?
a role cop will be able to tell the faction based on rolecard result too:
It can narrow it down, sure. But I'm giving peace the benefit of the doubt in that I don't think he'd resolve it is "mafia doctor" vs "1-shot doctor" I think he'd just give the result of "doctor". But hey, maybe the role cop is more powerful than I'm currently giving it credit for.
I am confused mutantdevle, because in the first post in this thread mentions 3 town cops... hmmmm
What else are you expecting from a game hosted by peace? lol. Don't get me wrong I'd love it to be 3 faction cops but I don't think peace has gone back on that edit he made and he's instead just forgotten to emphasise it.
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#279 2019-10-29 12:59:23
- mutantdevle
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
I said I would join the Endday wagon if I have no idea, not the Task wagon.
The intent is the same - especially considering that task was the only wagon at the time. If you truly meant that you'd be willing to join literally any wagon than that is also worrying.
And Mutant are you sure that every person in the βhesitant or non-hesitantβ list canβt be determined without Task lynched? For me it seemed like you think Iβm a scum lol
Of course everyone can be determined without task being lynched - that's literally just reading people based on their posts. But that's no reason we shouldn't lynch him if his death plays such a large role in reading so many people. It's like trying to solve the game by associations - you can make attempts to do it before anyone has flipped scum, but once someone has flipped scum, it becomes much easier.
I also don't really like your statement that you think that I think you're scum. I can understand why you might think that but what I said about you was basically that I would think that if Task was scum. So to me this kinda sounds like you're expecting task to flip scum. So if he is scum, you'll definitely be top of my suspect list.
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#280 2019-10-29 13:12:15
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
Mutant if you can give me an point by point read on what Taskmanager's flip would tell us i might consider joining again.
Since i didn't realize that the cops only have a 50% of actually telling us the person's alignment, so worst case scenario we might not even have any alignment cops in here. Therefore simply ending the day is no longer a viable strategy. Relies too much on RNG.
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#281 2019-10-29 13:44:28
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
Since i didn't realize that the cops only have a 50% of actually telling us the person's alignment, so worst case scenario we might not even have any alignment cops in here. Therefore simply ending the day is no longer a viable strategy. Relies too much on RNG.
What the ****?
I literally quoted peace's post that says role cops see alignment too
Quit that bs
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#284 2019-10-29 13:56:11
- Norwee
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
NorwegianboyEE wrote:Since i didn't realize that the cops only have a 50% of actually telling us the person's alignment, so worst case scenario we might not even have any alignment cops in here. Therefore simply ending the day is no longer a viable strategy. Relies too much on RNG.
What the ****?
I literally quoted peace's post that says role cops see alignment too
Quit that bs
Are you blaming me for misunderstanding Peace's explanation? :v
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#290 2019-10-29 15:01:14
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
I am still confused mutant; see norb's post...
Onjit, what do you think of my strategy?
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#291 2019-10-29 15:18:22
Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
sounds like you have a lot of time to think about mafia is what i think about your strategy 
a couple of possible complications:
peace's weirdness about faction/role cops
people not following the strategy
a cop being blocked/dying prematurely
apart from that, sounds pretty alright - 3 cops is quite strong, but then again, 5 mafia is quite strong
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#292 2019-10-29 15:34:22
#293 2019-10-29 15:48:30
- mutantdevle
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
Mutant if you can give me an point by point read on what Taskmanager's flip would tell us i might consider joining again.
Non-hesitators:
Luka was voting norwegianboy before switching to you without much hesitation. If you are mafia then that gives me no reason not to believe Luka when he says his votes were joke votes. If you are town then whilst I think that would make luka slightly suspicious the fact that he was on all 3 wagons would suggest to me that his votes were probably all jokes.
Jawapa did not hesitate to vote you as well. If you are town this makes jawapa look suspicious. If you are scum then that gives jawapa some town credit though I don't consider it impossible that he'd bus.
Kirby also changed from norwegianboy to you when Onjit said to do so. So if you are town, Kirby is also highly suspicious. If you are scum then, unlike jawapa who never voted norwegianboy, I don't think Kirby deserves any town credit for following the crowd.
Proc when straight from voting Onjit to voting for you. If you are town then I again think that indicates proc being opportunistic scum. Like jawapa, he never voted norwegianboy so if you are mafia then I think that indicates proc being town.These people are the main ones who I think would look scummiest if you flipped town. That's not to say, however, that they are necessarily all scum or that there'd be no scum in the later part of the wagon.
Hesitators:
Crybaby did intend to vote for you but eventually decided not to. Him considering it is the important bit. If you are scum, then I think he would be scum also.
2B55 expressed an interest in the wagon but ultimately declared that he'd only join it at the end. Similarly to Crybaby, if you are scum then I think that makes 2B55 quite scummy. Though, if you are town, I still think that kind of stance from 2B55 could still come from scum.
Norwegianboy only decided to vote for you after I had expressed my own reasoning for joining the wagon despite being present and engaged with the game beforehand. I think it's very likely that if you are scum then he was bussing you. Him then changing his mind to no lynch once consensus turns away from you just reinforces that.Likewise, you being scum would not necessarily make all of these people scum nor does it mean that all the non-hesitators aren't scum.
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#294 2019-10-29 15:50:05
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
I literally quoted peace's post that says role cops see alignment too
I also missed that to be fair. So role cops in this game are just more powerful cops. That's cool.
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#295 2019-10-29 15:51:03
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
3 cops is quite strong, but then again, 5 mafia is quite strong
5 mafia is nothing compared to 3 cops lol. We've won this game easily.
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#296 2019-10-29 16:00:18
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
TaskManager wrote:I literally quoted peace's post that says role cops see alignment too
I also missed that to be fair. So role cops in this game are just more powerful cops. That's cool.
Yeah I wanted to point that out too and I was **** by both of you ignoring it, but I was on mobile at the moment so too much effort
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I said I would join the Endday wagon if I have no idea, not the Task wagon.
That's still scummy
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#297 2019-10-29 16:27:00
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
Yeah I wanted to point that out too and I was **** by both of you ignoring it, but I was on mobile at the moment so too much effort
I didn't ignore it, i simply didn't catch it from Peace's wonky explanation. Sheesh dude, you gotta find some bigger things to get **** by.
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#298 2019-10-29 16:41:02
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Re: mafia 34 maf gave up town wins
TaskManager wrote:Yeah I wanted to point that out too and I was **** by both of you ignoring it, but I was on mobile at the moment so too much effort
I didn't ignore it, i simply didn't catch it from Peace's wonky explanation. Sheesh dude, you gotta find some bigger things to get **** by.
like claiming doc and getting lynched
hhahahahahahahaa
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