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#626 2019-09-27 01:02:14, last edited by Onjit (2019-09-27 01:02:30)

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Current votes:

[5] Kirby: Mrjawapa, Kira, Mutantdevle, Crybaby, ZeldaXD
[4] Kira: Peace, Luka504, TaskManager, eleizibeth
[1] MrJawapa: Kirby

About 2 hours remain.


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#627 2019-09-27 01:02:43

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

I believe that Kira very much is omega, because of this post:

Kira wrote:

Peace, trust me and vote for Jawapa.

Kira is telling peace to vote for Jawapa, and the only reason Kira would want that because it creates a tie between Jawapa and Kira, so neither get lynched.
Therefore, they have to be the same universe.
And since Jawapa claimed being alpha, and I do not believe that he lied about that.

Also thanks shadow, yeah something always seems to go wrong whenever i play mafia. I'm considering stopping because it's genuinely freaking me out.


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#628 2019-09-27 01:03:33

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

And since Kirby claimed alpha***
My brain dujmb


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#629 2019-09-27 01:07:28

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

...God dammit Kirby


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#630 2019-09-27 01:08:28

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Why did you wait so long to come out?


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#631 2019-09-27 01:09:50

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Luka504 wrote:

I believe that Kira very much is omega, because of this post:

Kira wrote:

Peace, trust me and vote for Jawapa.

Kira is telling peace to vote for Jawapa, and the only reason Kira would want that because it creates a tie between Jawapa and Kira, so neither get lynched.
Therefore, they have to be the same universe.
And since Jawapa claimed being alpha, and I do not believe that he lied about that.

There's also the chance that Kira could be trying to even out the votes into making people think that Jawapa and Kira are both Omega, since if the votes are tied there then people would think no Omega will be lynched. And having the cover of two of them, claiming Omega, being lynched with even votes could be a good cover for being Alpha, and hiding as it.

For that reason I don't want to tie the votes between Kira and Kirby, if Kira isn't lynched, then they're likely Alpha, and more likely to be Mafia imo.

Luka504 wrote:

And since Jawapa claimed being alpha, and I do not believe that he lied about that.

Also this line has a bit of weird syntax. Did you mean you believe his claim, or that you don't believe his claim? Because if Kira and Jawapa are assumed to be the same universe, and you believe Jawapa is Alpha, then the claim of Kira being Omega trying to tie the votes wouldn't really be accurate.

Although, I understand where you're coming from, my reasoning for it is kind of obscure, but still a possibility to frame them in a specific direction. So I wouldn't count what I say as fact, mainly just a theory of what could be going on.

Luka504 wrote:

Also thanks shadow, yeah something always seems to go wrong whenever i play mafia. I'm considering stopping because it's genuinely freaking me out.

No problem, but if you think you need to take a break then go for it. If it's stressing you out then I would even recommend you take a break.


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#632 2019-09-27 01:11:13

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

because i'm a threat to both mafias and would've had it pretty safe for a while, since a lot of people were having their universes being confirmed i wouldn't have been much of a mafia target. since my win condition is to stay alive until the end the longer my role is hidden to the mafia the better

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#633 2019-09-27 01:12:03

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Ugh, there are so many mixed signals. Though, I guess, for the reasons of
a) Kira is smart enough to leave breadcrumbs and I already didn't trust Jawapa
b) His use of meta gaming to come out as a townie was really scummy
and c) him imploring peace to create a tie also being scummy


I think this is enough for me to change my vote. I'm going to assume that Kirby was waiting until the last possible minute because he was cornered and had no other choice to come out.

I really hope I am not making a mistake.

!unvote
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#634 2019-09-27 01:13:04

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Also this line has a bit of weird syntax. Did you mean you believe his claim, or that you don't believe his claim?

Ah no no, I meant to say that Kirby claimed being alpha when he claimed drifter, and that I trust kirby.


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#635 2019-09-27 01:14:48

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Current votes:

[5] Kira: Peace, Luka504, TaskManager, eleizibeth, Crybaby
[4] Kirby: Mrjawapa, Kira, Mutantdevle, ZeldaXD
[1] MrJawapa: Kirby

About 105 minutes remain.


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#636 2019-09-27 01:16:25

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Oh yeah
Him universe claiming caught my attention too. At first I thought it was him trying to use reverse psychology for when the Mafia go for a kill tonight, but I guess it could also be him trying to make us think we can save him if he ties Jawapa.

Kira, you're in a hole right now. I'm not saying that it's impossible for you to persuade me any more about you, but unless you can crank out an essay all about your intentions in the next hour, I'm sorry


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#637 2019-09-27 01:17:53

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Luka504 wrote:
ShadowsEdge wrote:

Also this line has a bit of weird syntax. Did you mean you believe his claim, or that you don't believe his claim?

Ah no no, I meant to say that Kirby claimed being alpha when he claimed drifter, and that I trust kirby.

Ah ok. I'm more inclined to believe Kirby's claim as well.

Although, I highly doubt that the votes on Kirby will all retract with the time we have left, hence why I advocated for trying to get both Kirby and Kira lynched.


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#638 2019-09-27 01:18:46

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Sorry Mutant, I hope you understand given the context of all the new developments. I hope to heaven I'm not wrong


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#639 2019-09-27 03:08:40

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Final votes:

[5] Kira: Peace, Luka504, TaskManager, eleizibeth, Crybaby
[4] Kirby: Mrjawapa, Kira, Mutantdevle, ZeldaXD
[1] MrJawapa: Kirby

<lore>END_DAY_TWO_DEATHS.txt</lore>

The following lynch targets have been eliminated: Kira, Kirby

Kira was the Town Vanilla from universe Omega.

Kirby was the Drifter.


Night 2 begins now. Please send me your night actions via PM or private chat (but make it obvious please).

Night 2 will end in around 24 hours.


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#640 2019-09-28 01:17:23

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#641 2019-09-28 01:22:55, last edited by Onjit (2019-09-28 01:25:54)

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

<lore>TWO_DEATHS&#63;_OH_MY.txt</lore>

The following players were killed last night: Mutantdevle, 2B55B5G TNG

Mutantdevle was the Town Mason from universe Alpha.
2B55B5G TNG was the Town Universe Cop from universe Omega.


Day 2 begins now. It will end in a little over 73 hours. Link

Please vote for lynch targets using the command !vote <player> using the [ h ] tags.


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#642 2019-09-28 01:38:12

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#643 2019-09-28 01:59:57

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#644 2019-09-28 02:03:47

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Hey zelda, forgot you were in the game. Nice to see you.


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#645 2019-09-28 02:03:52

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Not necessarily. While it's true that you brought a lot of heat to Kirby, it's also true that other people brought a lot of attention to Kira (and neither of them did a particularly amazing job at defending themselves) and the decision between either of them wasn't easy to make given all of the facts. Not including peace, who has claimed Alpha vanilla townie with no counterclaim in sight, there is a 50% chance that any other person who is alive is Mafia, and if you were Mafia I'm not so sure that you'd be so obvious about creating a wagon like you did.


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#646 2019-09-28 02:06:50

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

In other words, we're all "in danger"


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#647 2019-09-28 02:13:58

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#648 2019-09-28 02:16:32

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

For the record: when Kirby roleclaimed drifter I was sleeping and I didn't get to unvote him.
For now these are my takes:

  • My main suspicions are towards Norboy and Taskmanager right now, something doesn't seem right about them, I have yet to isolate their posts considering the events.

  • Crybaby is despite his vote still in my town-leaning list (albeit a bit less than when I put him as town in D1) but I won't explain my reasoning for this for now.

  • We can assume without much doubts that Peace's roleclaim holds true.

  • Luka and Eleizibeth also are suspicious but I don't feel safe with lynching them for now.

  • ShadowsEdge is also town-leaning in my opinion, in part because of my suspicions towards Norboy & Luka, I also have another reason to think he's town but as with Crybaby I'm not going to disclose it yet.

  • I also town-read Jawapa, he stood up and shed some light on Kira's defense, despite it being revealed that Kira had lied (now we can see Kira only lied regarding his universe). And he ended up being right.


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#649 2019-09-28 02:17:27

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Alright people it's time for me to roleclaim. I have incriminating evidence on at least one person who is definitely Alpha Mafia, and possible a suspicion of someone who is also Alpha Mafia.

I am the Alpha Universe Cop

I investigated Norwegian last night. They came up as Alpha. All the Alpha PRs, except for me, are dead. The Alpha Townie has claimed (Peace). Therefore, Norwegian is Alpha Mafia. Knowing that Norwegian is Mafia, I went back into the chat to investigate who could possibly be aligned with Norwegian. And I found out:

Taskmanager and Norwegian have been passive to each other the entire game.

Norwegian and Taskmanager have suspected each other, slightly. But when I isolated each of their posts, Norwegian only had maybe two posts suspecting Taskmanager, while they were hard pushing for people who have been revealed to be town. Furthermore, Taskmanager has done similar, they've provided suspicions for others, and have advocated for them to be lynched, but when they brought up Norwegian, it was maybe 2 or 3 posts of all of their posts where they had anything related to Norwegian.

Another topic is that on Day 1, Norwegian decided to vote for me. Both of the Mafia would not advocate for me, as it would be an easy way to pin the two together. In Day 1, Norwegian was advocating for why I should be lynched, and Taskmanager was advocating for why I shouldn't be lynched.

Although, of course, I cannot confirm that Taskmanager is Alpha Scum, so my suggestion is to lynch Norwegian today (Confirmed scum), and have a secondary vote on Taskmanager. If Taskmanager is not lynched, they're Alpha scum, if they are lynched, then it'll narrow down the possible Alpha Mafia.

I will likely die tonight because I'm revealing, but I'm revealing because I trust the suspicions I've concluded.


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#650 2019-09-28 02:19:01

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

!vote NorwegianboyEE

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