Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

rat · 2019-09-26 19:25:55

yeah, just because kira is lying doesn't mean he's scum. i think kira had a legitimate plan and peace **** it up. he's still acting really scummy though and i wouldn't be surprised if he were maf.
if kira were faction cop, i'm not sure why he wouldn't be more open about it, and wouldn't call kirby a town after N1, after he used his ability? although, he might've been trying to hide that he was faction cop, and might've been waiting to call out a few mafia members at once, because he called kirby a town member BEFORE peace counterclaimed. i guess this ruined kira's plan, so he might be trying to subtly hint that kirby is maf??? i don't understand why he's not more open about it, especially now that he'll probably be lynched.

i'll probably be voting for kirby but i want him to comment first.

rat · 2019-09-26 19:28:00

yeah, i also don't want there to be a tie rn

Norwee · 2019-09-26 19:45:33

These recent developments seems to suggest that the votes between Kirby and Kira is going to require a tie-breaker, so i'll unvote since i won't be able to change my vote when the deadline approaches. (4 at night in my timezone)
If Eleizibeth votes Kirby and i keep my vote it makes the vote 5/5.
I'd rather have just one lynch than two, so if you guys really are that convinced Kirby's the one that's scum i'll let the town decide.

!Unvote

rat

Minimania · 2019-09-26 19:53:49

oh ****

Hope everything gets better soon Luka, I'm really sorry to hear about that

Luka504 · 2019-09-26 20:02:01

My vote stays on Kira. His actions have been too weird, and the explanations haven't done enough to convince me that Kira is not mafia.
I've let shadow slide yesterday, but I just can't let Kira get away with this.
I'm... honestly quite shocked how we've reached the point where Kirby has more votes than Kira. I don't really know what more I can do about it, though.
All I can hope is that Kira gets lynchhed today as well.

ZeldaXD · 2019-09-26 21:17:52

!vote Kirby

My reason to vote for Kirby: I think Kira is smart enough to know that there was only one vanilla alpha townie slot remaining when he claimed, and that there could be a counterclaim. So it makes me ask myself: would mafia Kira really do a move that could so easily expose him as a liar and get him lynched? I think the answer is not, I don't discard Kira using reverse-psychology, but isn't everything WIFOM?
Whether we lynch Kirby or Kira and regardless of the outcome this is going to give us a lot of juicy information, but I think based on my previous reasoning that by lynching Kirby we will perhaps get the best outcome for town, that is, a mafia gets lynched AND we get a lot of info.

Minimania, rat, TaskManager

rat · 2019-09-26 21:39:16

zelda makes a really good point, i'm not gonna wait for kirby to say something bc i don't think it'll matter

!vote kirby

Kira · 2019-09-26 21:51:50

Message @ Mafia: I am from Omega universe. Lynch me

Kira · 2019-09-26 21:52:12

Kill me*

Norwee · 2019-09-26 21:58:14

Kira wrote:

Message @ Mafia: I am from Omega universe. Lynch me

Is this based on your "just get me out" post when you were ultra **** at Peace and self-voted?

Kira

Kirby · 2019-09-26 21:59:25

!unvote
!vote jawapa

i stand by everything that ive said in regards to kira and in response to jawapa and dont really have anything to add. Since it seems inevitable im getting lynched, i guess ill claim - i am alpha right now. If neither kira nor jawapa die along with me, they are alpha mafia buddies

Kira · 2019-09-26 22:39:10

Peace, trust me and vote for Jawapa.

Kira · 2019-09-26 22:40:42

We probably can’t get people to unvote me so I’m gonna die either way (Task being afk).

mutantdevle · 2019-09-26 23:29:52

Kira wrote:

Peace, trust me and vote for Jawapa.

Why?

mutantdevle · 2019-09-26 23:40:11

mutantdevle wrote:

Kira wrote:
Peace, trust me and vote for Jawapa.
Why?

Oh right to tie the votes between you and jawapa? That'd only work if jawapa was Omega which has no guarantees. I suppose from your point of view that'd be worth the risk.

Luka504 · 2019-09-27 00:05:23

Oh, Kira and Jawapa have the same universe?
Hmmmm :thonk:
How peculiar. It's almost like they could be mafia buddies or something.

Luka504 · 2019-09-27 00:13:46

Peace for the love of god, do not listen to Kira. Do not vote for Jawapa under any circumstance.

Onjit · 2019-09-27 00:27:25

Current votes:

[6] Kirby: Mrjawapa, Kira, Mutantdevle, Crybaby, ZeldaXD, eleizibeth
[3] Kira: Peace, Luka504, TaskManager
[1] MrJawapa: Kirby

About 2.5 hours remain.

Kirby · 2019-09-27 00:30:07

ok ill be more clear

i am drifter

i chose alpha today because i knew mafia would target anatoly or peace since they were confirmed alpha

i doubt enough people will be online in the next 2 hours to change majority, so i guess i'll say i'm pretty convinced kira and jawapa are mafia buddies, and i get the impression that mutant might be mafia from a different universe and may have suspected that i was drifter.

yeeeep

Luka504 · 2019-09-27 00:34:17

Yeah, sorry Kirby. I genuinely wish there was something more I could do to help you, but my hands are tied.

rat · 2019-09-27 00:50:33

ok, this makes a lot more sense now,!! i believe kirby and i think we shouldn't lynch him, he should be said something sooner.

I don't think this will do any good, but I can try

!vote kira

Luka504 · 2019-09-27 00:51:37

Thank you Ele.

ShadowsEdge · 2019-09-27 00:55:00

Alright people I'm home now.

Firstly, I'm really sorry Luka, you seem to really have a bad streak with these kinds of things ;-;. I know this is late, but I hope it gets better for you, if it hasn't already.

Secondly, this:

Kirby wrote:

ok ill be more clear
i am drifter
i chose alpha today because i knew mafia would target anatoly or peace since they were confirmed alpha
i doubt enough people will be online in the next 2 hours to change majority, so i guess i'll say i'm pretty convinced kira and jawapa are mafia buddies, and i get the impression that mutant might be mafia from a different universe and may have suspected that i was drifter.
yeeeep

I personally think that both Kira and Kirby should be lynched today, if Kirby is to be lynched.

My reasoning is that if Kirby really is the Drifter, and came on Alpha today, then if Kira is lynched alongside them, if they're Omega (Which I'm also heavily doubting for reasons I'll state in a bit), then they'll be lynched and we'll be able to get the information off that, assuming whatever role they flip.

If Kira is NOT lynched alongside Kirby, that would mean Kira is Alpha, and therefore is more likely to be Mafia, as their actions don't line up with them being a PR other than the Mason.

The reason I personally believe that Kira isn't Omega, or more specifically, the Omega Faction cop, I've stated before. Although, they didn't line up with the idea that Kirby was Mafia until Jawapa made a long post calling out Kirby as Mafia, and Kira as the Faction Cop.

In itself, it's also very weird. Jawapa says specifically that the reason Kira didn't openly push for a lynch on Kirby, given that they are the Faction Cop, was that they didn't want to be killed by the Mafia. But in the same day that message was made, Jawapa makes a whole load of points explaining why Kira is the Faction Cop. If Jawapa knew Kira was the Faction Cop, and that they were trying not to be revealed as the faction cop, why would Jawapa make a post advocating for them as the Faction Cop, instead of making a post advocating for Kirby as Mafia.

Jawapa has even pointed out multiple times that Kira was hiding to not be revealed as the FC, and therefore not be a target for the Mafia. But in what Jawapa is doing, he has, in turn, made Kira a direct target if they are the FC.

Even if Kira is truly the FC, I wouldn't consider Jawapa confirmed as town. The way he went about claiming Kira as the FC had multiple plot holes which he simply glossed over. And as I pointed them out, and others as well, he provided stupid reasonings for why our claims are false. Instead of saying why it's not a plot hole, he simply starts attacking us for mentioning the plot holes. First with me, starting by claiming me as Mafia, and then with Luka, of which the replies felt something more like "That's wrong, your arguments are weak," instead of providing information of why the arguments are weak, and why his claims are wrong.

Just because Jawapa advocated for Kira as a town doesn't mean that Jawapa is coherently Town. I advocated for people as Town in The French Revolution even when I was Mafia. So just because Jawapa considers Kira as town, and is advocating for it, I wouldn't just drop all suspicion against him.

I don't want to tie the votes. So if the votes start leaning heavily in one direction, I'll vote for whomever I deem more suspicious. But at the moment, lynching either Kirby or Kira would just put the votes closer to a tie.

ShadowsEdge · 2019-09-27 00:56:58

Oops I forgot to say the reason for why I don't believe Kira is Omega. Kira has claimed to being both Alpha and Omega, at different stages of the game. They weren't forced to claim to anything, yet they claimed Alpha. And later, they claimed to being Omega, which was only after Jawapa claimed them as being Omega.

I could very well be wrong, as I'm not counting out the possibility, but that's mainly my biggest reason for not believing that Kira is Omega.

Luka504 · 2019-09-27 00:57:13

@Crybaby
@Zelda
@Devlin
It is still not too late for you three to change your votes, either. I implore you to think for yourself: do you truly believe that Kirby has a higher chance of being a mafia than Kira?

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