Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 17:48:27

Vote count pls
Since Kira is likely going to taste the rope today, I think it would be best to unvote anyone else on the chopping block.

rat · 2019-09-25 17:50:51

!unvote

Kira · 2019-09-25 17:52:49

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Kira wrote:
I expected Peace to be the Alpha VT after Day 1, turns out I was right,
How would you know that? How on earth would you know, all the data you could gather from that point is that he was very likely to be from the Alpha universe, there was nothing to suggest that he was specifically a VT. We only know because Peace just now counter-claimed you.
Kira wrote:
my goal was to save him by making him look like the Drifter,
Since when did you start caring about Peace to such an extent?
Kira wrote:
I was going to be on everyone's suspect list after pushing for an innocent's lynch either way, so that was one of my only options.
Well that backfired.

It's pretty obvious Peace isn't Mafia. Fact is, he is the Alpha VT.

I care about every townies, our goal is to survive and lynch Mafia.

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 17:54:47

Kira that's not what norwegianboy is talking about.
While you could have guessed that peace was a townie just based on his behavior alone, you had no way to deduce that peace was a VT.

Norwee

Norwee · 2019-09-25 17:55:06

You didn't answer my question. You've claimed that you somehow knew Peace was the Alpha VT ever since day 1 concluded, but this is impossible. You could not have known that. Therefore i think your entire story is a lie you made up to save yourself from the chopping block. Otherwise, why would your narrative have blatant inconsistencies?

Kira · 2019-09-25 17:56:13

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You didn't answer my question. You've claimed that you somehow knew Peace was the Alpha VT ever since day 1 concluded, but this is impossible. You could not have known that. Therefore i think your entire story is a lie you made up to save yourself from the chopping block. Otherwise, why would your narrative have blatant inconsistencies?

if I didn't get any counterclaim I'd have been fine. The first motive was for me to survive, after getting counterclaimed, turns out Peace did, therefore I still had a chance to save him.

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 17:57:18

Ugh, Kira is legit giving me a headache in my chest.

TaskManager, rat, mrjawapa

Norwee · 2019-09-25 18:08:33

Kira wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
You didn't answer my question. You've claimed that you somehow knew Peace was the Alpha VT ever since day 1 concluded, but this is impossible. You could not have known that. Therefore i think your entire story is a lie you made up to save yourself from the chopping block. Otherwise, why would your narrative have blatant inconsistencies?
if I didn't get any counterclaim I'd have been fine. The first motive was for me to survive, after getting counterclaimed, turns out Peace did, therefore I still had a chance to save him.

You're coming up with excuse after excuse but they are all ****.
This doesn't explain why you claimed specifically Alpha VT in the first place. You could have claimed to simply be from the "Alpha universe" rather than going the extra mile of fake claiming VT. Claiming a slot you'd know would be occupied seems completely illogical to do as a townie unless you were trying to make that person claim in the first place. Why would you want that? Are you Alpha scum trying to draw out more targets?

mutantdevle · 2019-09-25 18:10:57

Kira. You've admitted that you lied about being the Alpha townie. So why are you not telling us what you actually are?

If you're not going to say your specific role then at least tell us whether you are a PR or vanilla. And if you are not going to tell us that then at least say what universe you actually are. But give us something to give you so much as an element of trust.

I'm going to be honest. I think I actually trust Kira here after reading his approach to the counterclaim. But I'm not going to stand in the way of anyone who wants to lynch him if he's not going to give us an incentive not to.

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 18:11:23

@Jawapa
Thoughts on everything that's going on?

ZeldaXD · 2019-09-25 18:11:41

I'm not buying Kira's explanation either.

!vote Kira

peace · 2019-09-25 18:13:01

kira you coudl not know i was a VT sure you coudl know i was town and you were right but i coudl be s dumb masson or a dumb cop acting like a VT and not using my ability (im not sure if i wouldve done that when i was cop)

mutantdevle · 2019-09-25 18:14:54

Y'know what, despite my hesitations, I think I do want Kira lynched. The amount of information that everyone's approach to this situation gives us if Kira flips can definitely be responsible for one or two scum flips even if Kira is town.

Minimania · 2019-09-25 18:34:31

Holy **** man so much happened while I was asleep

!unvote

only because I dont remember if I already voted

Peace's counterclaim and Shadow's earlier case against him make him seem suspicious to me, so

!vote Kira

Norwee · 2019-09-25 18:35:50

Kira has 1 day, 8 hours, 24 minutes and 35 seconds to defend himself. :>

mrjawapa · 2019-09-25 18:37:13

Wow! What a turn of events, right MatuntGerbel?

I really was not expecting Peace to make a power move like that. He has really turned the town upside down with this play. These are the kind of next level plays that are learned through years of experience. If hes mafia, hes got the town in the palm of his hand.

It looks like he's backing Kira into a corner. It'll be interesting to see if kira can get out of this situation. As a seasoned player, he has the skills necessary to flip the towns way of thinking.

My prediction, MartinDixon, is that the town gives kira the rope tonight, and the mafia catches another power role in N2. This could be what puts the nail in the coffin for Universe Alpha

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 18:40:39

Jawapa, what are your thoughts on the situation? You haven't really mentioned who you think is right and who you think isn't.

Your vote is still on peace iirc. Do you stand by that now?

mrjawapa · 2019-09-25 18:42:37

Luka504 wrote:

@Jawapa
Thoughts on everything that's going on?

I think kira is being the big dumb with this play, but I've changed me stance on him. I had him as scum leaning, but I'm going to change that to town leaning.

Peaces counter claim feels odd. It doesnt feel like a level 100 play that peace would do. And it was super delayed. Therefore, I feel like he has a teammate who's helping him with this.

Either hes mafia, trying to get a cheap kill, or hes a Mason who is positive kira is scum.

I'd suggest lynching peace first, and if hes town, then lynch kira amd hope were not going down a rabbit hold.

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 18:45:05

Will you unvote peace?

mrjawapa · 2019-09-25 18:47:42

For the record, I'm at work, and quickly reading over things.

I plan to reread everything later.

For a while I was thinking the mafia teams were: Kira/Ele and Norboy/2B.

mrjawapa · 2019-09-25 18:48:18

Luka504 wrote:

Will you unvote peace?

Why? Are you two mafia partners?

Norwee · 2019-09-25 18:50:07

mrjawapa wrote:

Norboy/2B.

Curious to hear what gave you that idea.

Luka504 · 2019-09-25 18:51:57

Huh, why did I have a feeling you'd go straight to that one, Jawapa?

No, I'm not mafia. I'm asking you to unvote from peace because it's better to have only one lynch candidate instead of two, as to minimize the amount of information the mafia have access to.

TaskManager, rat, ShadowsEdge

mrjawapa · 2019-09-25 19:06:19

Luka504 wrote:

Huh, why did I have a feeling you'd go straight to that one, Jawapa?
No, I'm not mafia. I'm asking you to unvote from peace because it's better to have only one lynch candidate instead of two, as to minimize the amount of information the mafia have access to.

Fair point, but I'm sticking with my vote, for now.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
Norboy/2B.
Curious to hear what gave you that idea.

Will explain later, when I have a pc.

Minimania · 2019-09-25 19:15:00

Your only reason for voting Peace yesterday was because he's annoying. You didn't unvote for him before yesterday ended, giving the Mafia more information to work with. Today, Peace counterclaims Kira, someone you thought was a Mafia member for the longest time (and didn't vote for). Now, suddenly you trust Kira a lot more than Peace now that Peace has counterclaimed, all for... what? Peace not being smart enough to make that good of a play?

When I called you on not unvoting Peace yesterday, you gave me a weak response, and basically told me not to worry about it. Today, when people ask you to unvote for peace, suddenly you have no idea why it would be beneficial to unvote for a less popular candidate, and have to have it explained to you once again. Only this time, it's the same exact person that we already have information on. Do you know so little about who you're voting for that you're just that hellbent on killing Peace? Seems so much like something you would do out of policy if you ask me.

If Kira flips alpha best-flavor-of-ice-cream town, we're lynching Peace tomorrow without the shadow of a doubt. Unless you're a cop and you have some irrefutable proof that Peace is indeed Mafia, you're doing nobody any favors (not even Kira) by being so aggressive against a singular person, and in fact, are making yourself look way less credible.

rat

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