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#451 2019-08-25 20:43:23
Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
mrjawapa wrote:Bimps wrote:Btw whoever is jester, I feel bad for you. Your win condition is so stupid. It should be that if you get hung, you win, but the game isn't over.
That's how it works. The game doesn't end when they get lynched.
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#452 2019-08-25 21:17:42
#453 2019-08-25 21:40:10
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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
ShadowsEdge wrote:Zelda constantly pushing for a Mutant lynch in every post would seem like a scum move
Why? Isn't sticking to one opinion more town indicative than changing opinions now and then?
The thing is, I don't think Zelda changed their opinion. The point with my statement is that if Zelda, in every post, pushed for a lynch against Mutant, then it would seem like Zelda is suspicious. Because then it would seem like Zelda is trying to get rid of Mutant.
There have only been two posts by Zelda in Day 2 (I believe, but I may have skipped over one if there is another). The first was a call out post on Mutant. The second is a response to peace's opinion on the Jester, saying that we could use the Jester. But Zelda makes the points to not trust the Jester. The Jester isn't aligned with Town. They aren't obligated to kill someone who is Mafia if they are lynched. Despite the fact that we might help them, it doesn't guarantee the Jester won't stab us in the back. I agree with Zelda's assessment there.
Had Zelda used this post also to push his lynch against Mutant, then it would seem suspicious. But his post has no relation to Mutant, which is why I don't think he changed his opinion on Mutant, and was, instead, introducing his opinion on the Jester. I don't think his posts make him look suspicious. To me, it seems like he's just trying to get information out there, that way people are aware of it.
After rereading it, that message was not a derpclear. But you still seem towny. A derpclear is when new players to a site/the game in general say something that makes them either town or mafia, or they might even accidentally reveal they have a powerrole. It is gamebreaking but at this point I don't ignore it. Something like revealing something about maf chat that no one should know, or just saying some other weird thing. It's hard to explain
Oh. I guess it sort of makes sense. I know what you're going for, but I didn't know there was a term for it. Which is why I was confused by it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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#454 2019-08-25 22:45:18
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#463 2019-08-25 23:13:59
#464 2019-08-25 23:16:27
Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
Dark green: confirmed townie
Yellow: voted for norwegianboy
* = Norwegianboy called them sus
Peace (Replacing JoeyC)
TaskManager*
2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504)
NorwegianboyEE - Doctor
mutantdevle*
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MrJawapa (voted for norw then switched to peace as a joke(?))*
ZeldaXD - Vanilla Townie
Eleizibeth - Vanilla Townie
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I'd honestly go for a Jawapa lynch but I feel like he could be jester, when I posted my message calling mutant scum I didn't remember there was lookout, it is indeed possible mafia didn't kill him because of that, however I still find mutant highly sus, but not scummy enough anymore for being worth a lynch today (I didn't vote to lynch him in the same post where I accused him to wait for discussion to happen instead of starting a bandwagon on him)
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#465 2019-08-25 23:22:18
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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
There's nothing that truly recommends Zelda for a lynch. I simply wanted to open up a conversation theme, and see what reactions might arise.
There's little dynamic in this game compared to others, probably a lethargy caused by the recent amounts of mafia games. This benefits the mafia a lot, they don't need to do anything really day time, the more they're aversive to aggressiveness the more they keep a good boi presence, the more you give into the action like Norwegian and Mutant did the other day, the more you tear down your trust in comparison to others.
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In regards to why specifically Zelda:
He has almost no input and they made an affirmation that simply isn't well thought, which I don't find typical of him.
In my opinion they do have highest odes for being mafia, at the current time, anyway.
And as I said before, considering the atmosphere I believe that the mafia didn't risked at all voting for NorwegianBoy.
Also kind reminder that there is no nolynch option in this game.
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#466 2019-08-25 23:28:20
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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
Also kind reminder that there is no nolynch option in this game.
Exactly why we gotta make our mind up
Today's vote will be mostly a gamble, and the presence of a Disguiser makes it even worse
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#470 2019-08-26 00:13:01
Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
Unless a power role has info that goes against lynching zelda, why not?
Why would a power role out themselves (and thus risk getting killed by mafia at night) to protect me when I'm just a simple vanilla townie?
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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
There's nothing that truly recommends Zelda for a lynch. I simply wanted to open up a conversation theme, and see what reactions might arise.
There's little dynamic in this game compared to others, probably a lethargy caused by the recent amounts of mafia games. This benefits the mafia a lot, they don't need to do anything really day time, the more they're aversive to aggressiveness the more they keep a good boi presence, the more you give into the action like Norwegian and Mutant did the other day, the more you tear down your trust in comparison to others.---
In regards to why specifically Zelda:
He has almost no input and they made an affirmation that simply isn't well thought, which I don't find typical of him.
In my opinion they do have highest odes for being mafia, at the current time, anyway.And as I said before, considering the atmosphere I believe that the mafia didn't risked at all voting for NorwegianBoy.
Also kind reminder that there is no nolynch option in this game.
I agree. With that, it might be worth looking into the people who are less active, or simply follow the opinions of others. I don't know exactly how well Zelda plays, but from what I've read from Zelda, it does seem like he has input, he initially started with a post against me, and then against Mutant, and then a post relating to the Jester. I don't think he "Has almost no input" more that you're accusing him on that part because of his inactivity. His claim to Mutant is somewhat flawed, I'll give it that. But Zelda did say before that they forgot about the Lookout being a threat to the Mafia. In which case, it would make the most sense to assume the Mafia would target their biggest threat. Which would be Mutant.
I believe most of us are aware of the mechanic where one player must be lynched everyday. But I feel it's best to use the time wisely to figure out all of our options. We still have a little over 16 hours (I believe), so there's no reason to rush into lynching Zelda just yet.
Just like Day 1, we can't just jump straight into a lynch, hoping we choose the right player.
I feel most confortable gambling on Zelda, at the moment.
I don't feel comfortable gambling on Zelda. He hasn't given me any reason to believe he's Mafia, and the reasons why people are claiming him to be Mafia are circumstantial. I did make a post before where I posted my opinions of Zelda. And in my opinion, he seems like he's just trying to get his opinion out there so he can help. And as mentioned before by Mutant, Zelda, while inactive, is usually helpful.
Unless a power role has info that goes against lynching zelda, why not?
It's virtually impossible for a PR to have evidence to clear Zelda's name. That is, unless Zelda is a PR. Because the only PR we can rely on for info is the Lookout. Considering most people are villagers, which can't visit people, the only people the Lookout would see would be PRs. Considering the fact that the Veteran can't visit people, the Lookout cant make any claim to Zelda's innocence.
As for "Why not," Zelda, as I've mentioned before, seems like he's just trying to help out. He pointed out info that was otherwise not really articulated by anyone else.
We have a lookout. If the lookout found that you visited Ele last night, we know you're the godfather.
I believe the reason Zelda got confused on that part is because you asked for a PR for "info that goes against lynching zelda" not for "Info that proves that Zelda is scum."
On a different note, Jawapa is starting to give me weird vibes. In both lynches, he seemed to just follow the opinions that others presented. First it being Norwegian by Mutant and Task (Although he wasn't actually voting for Norwegian, he did say he thought he WAS voting for Norwegian). And then now, Zumza voiced an opinion about Zelda, and Jawapa followed in that. With Jawapa also being suspected by Norwegian, I don't think it's completely possible to throw away the idea of Jawapa being Mafia. There is the point where Jawapa unvoted (Which revealed that he thought he was voting for Norwegian), but this could be an attempt on his part to clear suspicion from him. I don't want to place a lynch on Jawapa just yet, since I do want to hear his opinions on the matter, but it could be a possible alternative.
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#473 2019-08-26 00:54:33
Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
It's virtually impossible for a PR to have evidence to clear Zelda's name.
You're right. I don't know what I was thinking.
But, they could have evidence to lynch someone else. Then we'd switch our votes over.
We still have a little over 16 hours (I believe), so there's no reason to rush into lynching Zelda just yet.
I really doubt much is going to happen over the next 16 hours.
As for "Why not," Zelda, as I've mentioned before, seems like he's just trying to help out. He pointed out info that was otherwise not really articulated by anyone else.
If not zelda, then who?
In both lynches, he seemed to just follow the opinions that others presented. First it being Norwegian by Mutant and Task
I explained why I suspected Norboy. I also put mutant and task in a suspect list.
With Jawapa also being suspected by Norwegian, I don't think it's completely possible to throw away the idea of Jawapa being Mafia.
Norboy suspected me because I suspected him.
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#474 2019-08-26 01:03:05
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Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
But, they could have evidence to lynch someone else. Then we'd switch our votes over.
If the Lookout hasn't provided information this far into Day 2, it's very likely that the Lookout has no information at the moment.
I really doubt much is going to happen over the next 16 hours.
I suppose, but it never hurts to try. On Day 1, people were going to do the policy lynch, and then it eventually switched over to Norwegian. While we did lose one of our PRs, it brought up a lot more info on people than just doing a simple policy lynch would have ever brought.
If not zelda, then who?
My alternative was you, but if these are the case:
I explained why I suspected Norboy. I also put mutant and task in a suspect list.
Norboy suspected me because I suspected him.
Then my suspicions on you aren't as strong. The only other alternative I can think of would be Zumza, who initiated the lynch against Zelda, but Zumza also had good points for why they initially started the lynch against Zelda. My opinion on Zelda hasn't changed, I do still think they're town, but until there's more information, I don't really have an alternative.
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#475 2019-08-26 01:05:51
Re: Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!
If the Lookout hasn't provided information this far into Day 2, it's very likely that the Lookout has no information at the moment.
Or they're sitting on it, because they don't want to die.
On Day 1, people were going to do the policy lynch...
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