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#326 2019-07-07 20:49:33, last edited by Tomahawk (2019-07-07 21:32:09)

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Luka504 wrote:

He's trying to be accusatory, he's trying to be defensive, he's just trying to survive. I feel like if I was a noob I'd be a lot like him.

Is he? I don't get much of an accusational tone from him at all. He's only made 1 slightly defensive post (imo that's his scummiest one) and the way he's going about surviving just screams scum to me. His justification just seems fake.

Also, he's surprisingly competent for a noob. He's very clearly able to keep up with what's being said considering he replied to specifically a post I made about him at a time where there were lots of other things he could have addressed. He also seems to understand how all the roles work suggesting that he's perhaps read and memorised them which I would not expect a noob townie to do. So I find it hard to believe that he doesn't realise that as a townie his role isn't solely about trying to survive. On the other hand, survival is something that's much more likely to be upfront on the mafia's agenda.



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Focusing on the inactives makes sure mafia cannot hide through inactivity. By poking literally every single inactive user here, I have gotten them to speak and at least sometimes, tell us what they think of others.
We have to find one scum through an educated guess or someone's night action and take it from there.

Lynching one of the inactives has a higher net positive than lynching one of the active players.

Lynching 1 inactive person isn't going to stop mafia members from hiding amongst the inactive players. If it did, we would have seen everyone suddenly be active after raprap was lynched. And I don't think you've achieved as much as you claim you have. The inactive players are still inactive. All you've done is got some of them to be more specific about why. What about Shlog and Onjit? You've not exactly got them to tell us what they think of others because you've been narrowmindedly focused on 1 person. You don't seem to be considering why people are inactive. We do have to find scum through educated guesses so please tell me how lynching inactive players who haven't provided much information is an educated guess and not just stabs in the dark? On the other hand, we have several players that we have a fair bit of information about whose lynches would definitely be considered an educated guess.

And what's this net positive you speak of? I don't understand how you think lynching people who haven't said much gives us more than lynching people who have had a lot to say about others.

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Crybaby wrote:

What's your sus list right now?

TaskManager, AllenCaspe, Schlog.

Out of those 3, lynching TaskManager gives us the most information and would be a huge loss for the mafia. My suspicion on Shlog mostly relies on Allen being scum.


I'm currently viewing all of the PR claims as confirmed town as I have no strong reasons to doubt their legitimacy. Other than them I town read Proc, Railmat and ASDruska.

That leaves Onjit, jawapa and you (crybaby) as my null reads / PoE scum reads.


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#327 2019-07-07 20:56:27

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Devlin, Caspe may be a noob but he's not an autist. In my first mafia game on the forums, despite being a really awful mafia member who had no idea what he was doing, I still understood how the game and its roles functioned. I was also able to follow along to what was happening too. A basic understanding of the game is expected from everybody, even noobs.

A desire to just survive is usually the thing noobs would care more about in comparison to more experienced players tbh. Peace was like that, valuing his survival above the towns.

Idk, the accusatory part came from that post where he said "[Taskmanager], you're lying. Let's get him!"


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#328 2019-07-07 20:59:32

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

- Lynch tally -
[5]Railmat: LORD MASTER KING, Processor, Crybaby, Taskmanager, ASDruska
[3]Processor: Schlog, Railmat, AllenCaspe9510
[1]Taskmanager: Onjit
[1]AllenCaspe9510: Mutantdevle

Majority required for lynch is [7]

Approx 18 hours remaining.


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#329 2019-07-07 21:05:00

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

@2B55B5G TNG, what do you think of Railmat and AllenCaspe?


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#330 2019-07-07 21:08:35

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Luka504 wrote:

Idk, the accusatory part came from that post where he said "[Taskmanager], you're lying. Let's get him!"

Do you think Allen is being serious in that post? But that post gave me the impression that he doesn't genuinely believe that TaskManager is lying. To me, it was throwaway reasoning to be on the wagon.



Also, I can't remember why I was town reading ASDruska. I think it was just one post that made me trust him or something but looking through his iso I can't think which one it would have been lol.


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#331 2019-07-07 21:13:52, last edited by Tomahawk (2019-07-07 21:31:37)

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

mutantdevle wrote:

Do you think Allen is being serious in that post?

Seems rather convenient to just throw away evidence against your arguments like that...

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#332 2019-07-07 21:23:26

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Do you think Allen is being serious in that post?

I mean, if I didn't think it was serious I wouldn't have even mentioned it.


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#333 2019-07-07 21:25:11

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Allen was supporting me. I made some points against taskmanager, taskmanager responded, and then Allen accused taskmanager of lying. The problem is I don't think that the support was genuine. 'Lying' in that context is too broad of a statement and that shows that no real analysis of taskmanager's answers took place. It was just a reason to be voting for taskmanager.


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#334 2019-07-08 03:00:46

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

We're running out of time.


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#335 2019-07-08 03:57:54

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

could someone please make a list of all of the claims that people have made so far? just for easier reference

!vote allen

i don't think railmat is scum, and allen claimed bystander way too early for no reason


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#336 2019-07-08 04:07:24

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Processor wrote:

@2B55B5G TNG, what do you think of Railmat and AllenCaspe?

Railmat only made a town and mafia list, roleclaimed Innocent Bystander, then went inactive. Considering there are only 4 or 5 Innocent bystanders left in the game and he’s one of the 4 who claimed Innocent Bystander, I trust his claim for now.

AllenCaspe also claimed Innocent Bystander, and he said that he’s scared of being killed, so he wants to survive. Before that, he voted to lynch TaskManager, then Processor. It seems weird to me, especially when he said TaskManager was lying, I think it’s an excuse for him to lynch TaskManager. AllenCaspe’s reason to lynch Processor is because he thinks that people who convince are likely to be evil. I 50% agree this. People who convince is likely to have a plan, but it does not mean that person is evil, he can be good. Also, he is one of the 4 who claimed Innocent Bystander, so I temporarily trust his claim.

I think that AllenCaspe is more suspicious than Railmat.

And if 2 more people claim Innocent Bystander / PR, I will start to suspect those who claimed to be it.
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List of people who roleclaimed Innocent Bystander:
TaskManager
Processor
Railmat
AllenCaspe9510

List of people who roleclaimed PR:
Luka504 - Ace Detective
Kira - Unstable Gunman
Crybaby - The oracle
2B55B5G TNG - Occultist


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#337 2019-07-08 04:12:32, last edited by Tomahawk (2019-07-08 18:51:59)

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

We don't have much time left. We are not going to be able to switch all the votes for Railmat over to Allencaspe by the time the day ends. We only need two more people, and even if Allen is more suspicious, TNG is still sus. Let's take care of this one first

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I know that's a really **** reason to try to convince you guys to vote Railmat, but I legitimately don't think we have enough time to switch everyone over to Allen.


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#338 2019-07-08 04:15:27

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Crybaby wrote:

We don't have much time left. We are not going to be able to switch all the votes for Railmat over to Allencaspe by the time the day ends.

Okay then,

!lynch Railmat


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#339 2019-07-08 04:27:29

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

By the way, Onjit, I sort of cleared your name from being anything except maybe the Curfew role from the Mafia. Though you're still not in the clear, you're a town lean


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#340 2019-07-08 05:56:52

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

- Lynch tally -
[6]Railmat: LORD MASTER KING, Processor, Crybaby, Taskmanager, ASDruska, 2B55B5G TNG
[3]Processor: Schlog, Railmat, AllenCaspe9510
[2]AllenCaspe9510: Mutantdevle, Onjit

Majority required for lynch is [7]

Approx 9 hours remaining.


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#341 2019-07-08 05:58:34

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

!lynch railmat


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#342 2019-07-08 06:06:58

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

- Lynch tally -
[7]Railmat: LORD MASTER KING, Processor, Crybaby, Taskmanager, ASDruska, 2B55B5G TNG, Luka504
[3]Processor: Schlog, Railmat, AllenCaspe9510
[2]AllenCaspe9510: Mutantdevle, Onjit

Lynch quota was met.
Railmat has been lynched by the town.

He was a Innocent bystander

Night 2 has now begun. Please pm me your night actions.
The night will end in 23 hours and 55 minutes. (9th of July 07:00 gmt+2)


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#343 2019-07-09 06:06:32, last edited by Norwee (2019-07-09 06:06:48)

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Night 2 has ended
Crybaby was found dead.

She was The oracle

Day 3 has now started.
If no lynch or other event happens, the day will end in 72 hours. (12th of July 07:00 gmt+2)
A majority of votes is required for a lynch to take place. The majority for this round is [6]


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#344 2019-07-09 06:38:52

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Yeah I had a feeling that Railmat was innocent. Nothing much that can be done about it now.

Anyway, you voted for me to investigate Taskmanager, and I did just that. He is the lowlife.

We don't need to lynch him just yet, as we have an entire day to discuss things.


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#345 2019-07-09 07:27:41

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Okidoki, sweet.

Luka504 town.
mutantdevle town (probably)

TaskManager stayed out of the whole AllenCaspe discussion, didn't he? That's interesting


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#346 2019-07-09 07:34:53

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

you seem very hesitant to lynch a mafia member thats weird


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#347 2019-07-09 07:39:54

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Not really asdruska.
We have 72 hours, there's quite literally no benefit to lynching Taskmanager asap.


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#348 2019-07-09 07:42:01

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

I hate to say I told you so but....

!vote allen


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#349 2019-07-09 07:45:18

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Ugh, Onjit... I investigated Taskmanager and he's a mafia. He's our best lynch target today.

We can lynch Caspe some other day.


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#350 2019-07-09 08:40:30

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Re: Mafia 26 [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

oh lmao i missed that

!unvote


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