Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

mutantdevle · 2019-05-11 23:35:23

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Why would you investigate Kirby if you were really a cop?

Because he exposed me as scum last game through an investigation

If I could do the same to him, then I wanted to.

Kirby · 2019-05-11 23:36:23

i was considering whether or not to pick the norboy post apart in my vote for him but i thought it was kinda self explanatory why it was dumb, but i guess i can repeat it here just for clarity

You know... i don’t buy Mutantdevle’s claim for a second. He could very be the role cop. How very convenient that would be for him.

"how very convenient that would be for him" i literally don't know what this freaking means... sure there's the possibility that he's lying and magically guessed my role and found the perfect way to disguise it... or the more likely explanation is that he's just the cop and his previous actions were defined by that??

He can "investigate" those who want to prove to their lord and saviour Mutantdevle that they are townies so they can join his exclusive "townie club". Not to mention that he literally demands the doctor to protect him EACH night. Wouldn’t that be very handy? The doctor could potentially be protecting a mafia member each night...

If we have a confirmed cop, no **** we want to protect him every night. Now that the vig is dead, he's pretty much our most important power role, unless the seer gets confirmed as well

while the mafia group get’s stronger and can use the time given by the ruse to identify one of their biggest threats, the serial killer.

???????????????????????? i don't understand this, SK is a town threat too

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(noticed that you posted as i was writing this so i'll respond to that too)

I was in fact, working on your humongous reply. But i couldn’t ignore this. Why would you investigate Kirby if you were really a cop? I believe you are attempting some very dirty tactics. You’re definitely my prime suspect now.

It's N1, who is he supposed to investigate? I think it's fair considering I was part of the faction that screwed his faction over last game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also (damn double post again), why would you reveal your power role so early in the game? That’s just dumb.

I really am going to need an explanation to how that's dumb. Revealing a power role like this just allows us to get actual confirmation on who is and isn't scummy. With this sentence now i don't know if you're scummy or just bad at mafia, but i'm keeping my vote regardless.

mutantdevle, 2b55b5g

Norwee · 2019-05-11 23:43:34

We’ll see what the others say. It’s nighttime in my timezone. Don’t lynch me before i wake up if you people see me as suspicious. I’ve still got some things to say.

Kirby · 2019-05-11 23:48:21

!votecount

Also railmat i beg of you can you please stick this in the OP

▼bbcode

[spoiler=Roles]
[quote]
[color=lime]Townie[/color]

You are aligned with town

You have no night actions. Your power is your voice and vote.
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=lime]Seer[/color]

You are aligned with town

Each night you may [b]!investigate[/b] an another player. You will be told what the role card of that player is. The result is nothing if you got roleblocked.
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=lime]Doctor[/color]

You are aligned with town

Each night you can [b]!protect[/b] an another player for being nightkilled.
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=lime]Vigilante[/color]

You are aligned with town

Each night you may [b]!kill[/b] another player. You have only 2 bullets, so use them wisely
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=lime]Classic Cop[/color]

You are aligned with town

Each night you may [b]!investigate[/b] an another player. You will be told for what fraction that player is aligned to. Possible results: Town/Mafia/Nothing
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=lime]Roleblocker[/color]

You are aligned with town

Each night you may [b]!block[/b] another player. You can not block the serial killer. If you block the serial killer, you will be killed instead.
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=red]Goon[/color]

You are aligned with the mafia.

Your teammates are: <player> and <player>. You can communicate with <link>. Do not share this with anyone.

You have only the ability of your fractional kill during the night.

[/quote]

[quote]
[color=red]Roleblocker[/color]

You are aligned with the mafia.

Your teammates are: <player> and <player>. You can communicate with <link>. Do not share this with anyone.

Each night you have the ability of your fractional kill. You may also [b]!block[/b] an another player. You can not block the serial killer. If you block the serial killer, you will be killed instead.
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=red]Role Cop[/color]

You are aligned with the mafia.

Your teammates are: <player> and <player>. You can communicate with <link>. Do not share this with anyone.

Each night you have the ability of your fracional kill. You may also [b]!investigate[/b] an another player. You will be told of that player have a power role. Possible results: Role/Vanila/Nothing
[/quote]

[quote]
[color=blue]Serial Killer[/color]

You are aligned with yourself.

Every night you may [b]!kill[/b] an another player.

You are immune for nightkills and role blocks. If a roleblocker blocks you, you will kill them instead of your chosen target.

[/quote]

[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Win Conditions]
Town - You win when all threats to the town are eliminated
Mafia - You win when your faction controls the majority of the population
Serial Killer - You win when you are the only living player in town
[/spoiler]

Zumza, Slabdrill, 2b55b5g

mrjawapa · 2019-05-12 01:13:57

!vote devle

I don't believe mutant is the town detective. It's unlike him to release info like that, without really being under any pressure.

I think it's more likely for him to be the mafia cop.. er... detective... er... whatever

As for the suspicion towards me, I've been super busy. And haven't had a ton of time to analyze anything. As scummy as this may sound, I'm a vanilla townie.

mrjawapa · 2019-05-12 01:14:22

**** christ diff
Fix the god damn text boxes on mobile

RailMat

Slabdrill · 2019-05-12 01:32:21

when does the day end again

@mutantdevle: I'm a bit curious about that 86% figure (which is 6/7) as that post distinctly has SEVEN lines
but the fact that you had planted that so long ago is enough for me to trust that you're more likely to be cop than not

Onjit · 2019-05-12 02:25:34

!vote mutantdevle

Just a hunch tbh, but it seems like he's generally been more combative, trying to direct the flow of conversation, rather than actually trying to figure people out. also his claim seems to like up almost too conveniently

2b55b5g · 2019-05-12 03:09:54

Why all of these happen when I sleep...?

Okay, this Mutantdevle VS NorwegianboyEE thing - I choose to trust Mutantdevle.

Mutantdevle has a reasonable criticism on NorwegianboyEE’s read list.

NorwegianboyEE’s lynch on Mutantdevle just seems like he’s too ‘excited’ and wanted to defend, so he decided to lynch Mutantdevle.

But I’m not going to vote NorwegianboyEE yet, because he still has something to say.

mutantdevle

Different55 · 2019-05-12 03:13:25

Uhh no thoughts currently on this bandwagon, want to do some more reading. But as I was reading through, devle, you mentioned the possibility that SK went after peace? I thought the SK was unstoppable at night. They may not kill the intended target but they will kill *someone*, right? Whoever tries to protect the intended target at least.

2b55b5g · 2019-05-12 03:17:15

This is a possibility if what Peace said is true.

Peace is a roleblocker, he accidentally block SK, SK turned his target into Peace, then doctor protected Peace.

Or maybe SK’s target was Peace then Doctor protect Peace.

RailMat

2b55b5g · 2019-05-12 03:18:17

But I don’t see any reason for the roleblocker (town) to block someone so my statement is probably not true

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-05-12 05:10:29

From post #300: We can get that mutantdevle is some suspicious of NorwegianBoy. NorwegianBoy then at some pkost number voted for mutantdevle. I am suspicious of a SvT here. I think that it's more likely for NorwegianBoy to be scum. This could be SvS though. Did he vote for mutant though? I skipped 3 pages so I don't know. If mutantdevle and Norwegianboy are both scum, then I'm sure that mutant won't be voting for Norwegianboy.

Suspicion list: mrjawapa, Different55, Norwegianboy

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-05-12 05:13:18

mutantdevle is clearly trying to bend what people think. I think we should trust him for now though.

2b55b5g · 2019-05-12 05:45:53

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

I think that it's more likely for NorwegianBoy to be scum. This could be SvS though. Did he vote for mutant though? I skipped 3 pages so I don't know. If mutantdevle and Norwegianboy are both scum, then I'm sure that mutant won't be voting for Norwegianboy.

They voted each other.

RailMat · 2019-05-12 05:51:53

Current votecount:
[1] Luka504: ILikeTofuuJoe
[2] NorwegianboyEE: mutantdevle, Kirby
[2] ILikeTofuuJoe: Zumza, peace
[3] mutantdevle: NorwegianboyEE, mrjawapa, Onjit

7 votes needed for majority.

Remember that the day ends at 13-5-19 at 12:00pm UTC.

Luka504 · 2019-05-12 06:34:10

What. The. ****.
Why does all the fun stuff happen when I sleep?

OK, my thoughts: I'm not sure yet, but Devlin is so far suspicious to me. For most of the game, I felt like there was something off with Devlin's behaviour. Sure, he still had his rather prideful mindset of "I'm amazing at mafia" and junk, but I felt like it wasn't the same.
He seems a lot more aggressive, Imo. Especially when he posted a picture of Norwegianboy literally digging his own grave, stating "it's time for you to die"
I would understand if you were a cop and got a guilty result on him, but by your own admission, you haven't. So what's with you this game?
Oh, another post is on the way. I think I see a problem with some of your deductions, and it's making me more suspicious that you're stringing the town along on a leash.

Luka504 · 2019-05-12 07:01:46

mutantdevle wrote:

1) The SK valued killing peace (presumably to increase their enjoyment of the game) over making a strategic kill.

This would only be correct if peace was attacked last night, however, he stated numerous times that he hasn't been attacked, only protected by the doctor.
If peace was attacked and then healed, railmat would have surely told him so, but he didn't. Perhaps mat could have simply made a mistake, however I not only find that too convenient, but I also doubt mat would leave out such information.
This means that peace wasn't attacked during n1, which throws your entire "they had a personal grudge" theory out of the window. The sk had no reason to assume that peace would be protected either, as they'd think that the doctor would have almost certainly defend someone more valuable.
The sk likely knows very well that peace isn't worth killing. My personal theory is that the sk targeted taskmanager along with the mafia, though it's possible that peace is lying through his teeth about having been protected.

Slabdrill

Norwee · 2019-05-12 07:07:49

I’ve collected my thoughts a bit. Like mentioned, there is something seriously weird about Mutantdevle’s aggressive tactics. Who says "it’s time for you to die" with the picture of a gravestone and expects to be seen as the good guy? Also isn’t Kirby’s extremely fast lynching response to my criticism suspicious? I’m certain that Mutantdevle and Kirby are in fact the mafia, employing a malicious ploy to fool us all. If i die in the next night, or get lynched. It will only prove my point. In fact, i welcome death at this point. As i believe it will make the town stronger and improve our chances to win. We already have 2 suspects. All that remains after that will be finding the serial killer. And mop up the last mafia member.

Also in Mutant’s quote pyramid you can see this quote:
[“Your whole reads list here just smells of **** and make it obvious to me that you don’t believe any of this.]

That sounds like some serious attempt at discrediting me.
I can only assume he reacted so strongly due to the fact that my words hurt? Did i hit the bullseye? Am i perhaps being too suspicious of the right people? So now as an retaliation and sign of fear, he does all he can to make sure people won’t believe a word of what i say. Saying i will "die". Digging my own grave etc... These are the signs of a mafia member, using intimidation technique to have things go his way. Why did he react so strongly to my sternly worded criticism? I believe it is in fact because he is very afraid that we might lynch him and reveal his accomplices.

Luka504 · 2019-05-12 07:13:23

Ugh how much time do we have left?
!vote mutantdevle

Kirby · 2019-05-12 07:35:09

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Also isn’t Kirby’s extremely fast lynching response to my criticism suspicious?

...no? i'm the only person who can 100% confirm mutantdevle's claim, and since his read was correct i didn't really have reason to distrust him, so as far as i'm concerned anyone who tries to lynch him at this point is either completely misguided or scummy.

Norwee · 2019-05-12 07:37:56

Either that, or you are on the mafia's side. Or are you actually so incredibly gullible that you got fooled by Mutant into thinking he is a cop? If he is really a cop. (And that could mean mafia cop for all you know) Then that trust can only go one way, because you can never confirm whether Mutantdevle's claim is genuine. Putting this to mind, the only reason i can see why you trust him completely. Is that you are both mafia members.

Kirby · 2019-05-12 07:40:56

eh disregard that last post i might've angrily mistook the graveyard chat for the maf chat

I don't understand your post. I can confirm his claim is genuine by knowing that his read is genuine, since I obviously know my own role lol.

he could've either

a) chose cop, and picked a random player to read and hope they are town (this would be a stupid move, and the real cop likely would've spoken up by now tbh)

or b) be telling the truth. i really don't see any other alternatives tbh

Anatoly · 2019-05-12 07:43:18

Kirby wrote:

****, game is **** over, anatoly just posted a PM of mafia chat. god damn it.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDEEEEEEEEEEEE!

There was only one information you can get from the chat:

TaskManager hates me. - but it's known already

I need to report any hate against me, as if I keep everything in me, it will only be a suicidal for me..., and you did NOT receive anything from it...

Norwee · 2019-05-12 07:44:16

Come folks, let's lynch Anatoly!

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