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#1 2019-04-30 19:40:41

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Color namer

I have a color namer, it's an engine that takes a color as an input and outputs a color name.

Link: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/246475619/


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#2 2019-08-07 14:17:42

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Re: Color namer

Here's a graph of all the color names it uses


          Red    Orange  Yellow  Green    Cyan   Azure    Blue   Violet Magenta   Rose

        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
  Pale  ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
  Dull  ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
Bright ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
  Dark  ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
        ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████




        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████
        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████
        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████
        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████        ████████
         Black         Dark Gray        Mid Gray       Light Gray        White

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#3 2019-08-07 14:38:40

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Re: Color namer

Cool.


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#4 2019-08-12 09:21:46, last edited by PiotrGrochowski (2019-08-12 09:28:23)

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Re: Color namer

I made a website https://colornamer2.netlify.com/ it contains 2 versions of the color namer simultaneously. "color name 1" is the original version, while "color name 2" is an expanded version.

Here is the HTML5 graph of all the color names used by "color name 2":

┌Extradark
│ ┌Dull
│ │ ┌Weak
│ │ │ ┌Extrapale
│ │ │ │ ┌Dark
│ │ │ │ │ ┌Faded
│ │ │ │ │ │ ┌Pale
│ │ │ │ │ │ │ ┌Semidark
│ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ┌Semipale
│ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ┌Bright
████████████████████ Red
████████████████████ Vermilion
████████████████████ Orange
████████████████████ Amber
████████████████████ Yellow
████████████████████ Lime
████████████████████ Chartreuse
████████████████████ Harlequin
████████████████████ Green
████████████████████ Erin
████████████████████ Springgreen
████████████████████ Aquamarine
████████████████████ Cyan
████████████████████ Capri
████████████████████ Azure
████████████████████ Cerulean
████████████████████ Blue
████████████████████ Indigo
████████████████████ Violet
████████████████████ Purple
████████████████████ Magenta
████████████████████ Cerise
████████████████████ Rose
████████████████████ Crimson
 
██ Black
██ Extradark Gray
██ Dark Gray
██ Semidark Gray
██ Mid Gray
██ Semilight Gray
██ Light Gray
██ Extralight Gray
██ White


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#5 2019-08-12 16:05:48

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Re: Color namer

nice and what if u have anythign inbetween 2 things? what is it called?


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#6 2019-08-12 17:11:55

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Re: Color namer

peace wrote:

nice and what if u have anythign inbetween 2 things? what is it called?

The color is rounded in the HSV space to the available hue/saturation/value names. Check out https://colornamer2.netlify.com/. There are 2 methods, "color name 1" with 45 colors and "color name 2" with 249 colors. "color name 1" is in fact the method I used for the "haslo names colors" EE world I used to host sometimes.


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#7 2019-08-18 12:14:22

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Re: Color namer

Imagine if I doubled the color resolution of the color namer once again

What would the saturation/value names be?

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#8 2019-08-18 14:19:34, last edited by Raphe9000 (2019-08-18 14:20:30)

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Re: Color namer

I suggest you use prefixes like dodrant, semiextra, and ultra for those cases. Blackish, x grayish, and Whitish also may work for some colors.


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#9 2019-08-18 16:31:23

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Re: Color namer

http://www.visibone.com/color/poster4x.html describes someone's naming system for the 6×6×6 RGB colorcube. That's where I got the "Faded" and "Weak" in the first place. However, "Hard" is another saturation listed in between "Vivid" and "Faded", perhaps it could be the name for the shade between Bright and Faded.

Raphe9000 wrote:

I suggest you use prefixes like dodrant, semiextra, and ultra for those cases. Blackish, x grayish, and Whitish also may work for some colors.

Combining your ideas, the list would look something like this:

Bright	Faintpa	Semipal	Dodrant	Pale	Semiext	Extrapa	Ultrapa	#GRAY

Faintda	Hard	???	???	???	???	???	#GRAY

Semidar	???	Faded	Semidul	Weak	Extrawe	#GRAY

Dodrant	???	???	Extrafa	???	#GRAY

Dark	???	Dull	???	#GRAY

Semiext	???	???	#GRAY

Extrada	Extradu	#GRAY

Ultrada	#GRAY

#GRAY

(note: some of the names are truncated)

Still, not all the shades are named. Also, doubling the color resolution of colorname2 would also mean twice as many hues, for a total of 48 hues. Someone did actually name 48 hues, although that "Bright Green" hue would be confusing (00FF00 is Bright Green, 008000 is Dark Green, 60FF00 would be Bright Brightgreen and 308000 would be Dark Brightgreen). There's also this color namer which could be used to replace some of the hue names in that 48 hue name list.


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#10 2019-08-18 17:03:37

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#11 2019-08-18 17:08:05

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Re: Color namer

What are you trying to demonstrate? There isn't any bug in the naming of the color 3C5B90 in my color namer:

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#12 2019-08-18 18:12:13, last edited by Trytu (2019-08-18 18:14:17)

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Re: Color namer

instead "extra dull" i would use "dark dull"
and instead "extra" word, i would use "very" word, and maybe "quite" instead of "semi" (at least for some colours)
"quite darker red" instead "semi-extra dark red"
and maybe add words like unsaturated/desaturated and light/fair


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#13 2019-08-18 18:17:35

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Re: Color namer

Trytu wrote:

instead "extra dull" i would use "dark dull"
and instead "extra" word, i would use "very" word, and maybe "quite" instead of "semi" (at least for some colours)
"quite darker red" instead "semi-extra dark red"
and maybe add words like unsaturated/desaturated and light/fair

"Mid Gray, Quitedark Gray, Dark Gray, Verydark Gray, Black"


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#14 2019-08-18 19:25:07

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Re: Color namer

or just teh word gray for an mid grey color (mab ythe color that is in th emodddl eof #000000 and #ffffff


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#15 2019-08-18 21:50:23

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Re: Color namer

Bright		Faint pale	Semipale	Dodrant		Pale		Very pale	Ultra pale	Whiteish	#GRAY

Quite bright	Hard		???		Weakish		???		???		Weak pale	#GRAY

Faint dark	Dimish?		Faded		Bright dull?	Weak		Very weak	#GRAY

Semidark	Dim/ish?	???		Desaturated	Desaturated	#GRAY

Dark		Dim?		Dull	Dim weak/Desaturated	#GRAY

Dim dark	???		???		#GRAY

Very dark	Dim dull	#GRAY

Ultra dark	#GRAY

#GRAY

what about it
i hope i'm quite helpful with this list and won't be taked as daltonist xD


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#16 2019-08-18 23:48:56

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Re: Color namer

PiotrGrochowski wrote:

What are you trying to demonstrate? There isn't any bug in the naming of the color 3C5B90 in my color namer:

https://i.imgur.com/cENqtCK.png

You asked for some inspiration on naming colors. I'm not reporting a bug.

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#17 2019-08-19 05:13:34

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Re: Color namer

NoNK wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:

What are you trying to demonstrate? There isn't any bug in the naming of the color 3C5B90 in my color namer:

https://i.imgur.com/cENqtCK.png

You asked for some inspiration on naming colors. I'm not reporting a bug.

That color namer is a bunch of random names specifically describing a particular color. There's no way it can help in naming shades supposed to be used by all possible hues.


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#18 2019-08-19 09:48:32

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Re: Color namer

Trytu wrote:
Bright		Faint pale	Semipale	Dodrant		Pale		Very pale	Ultra pale	Whiteish	#GRAY

Quite bright	Hard		???		Weakish		???		???		Weak pale	#GRAY

Faint dark	Dimish?		Faded		Bright dull?	Weak		Very weak	#GRAY

Semidark	Dim/ish?	???		Desaturated	Desaturated	#GRAY

Dark		Dim?		Dull	Dim weak/Desaturated	#GRAY

Dim dark	???		???		#GRAY

Very dark	Dim dull	#GRAY

Ultra dark	#GRAY

#GRAY

what about it
i hope i'm quite helpful with this list and won't be taked as daltonist xD

That's just asking for confusion with the previous systems. I don't think the existing names (Bright, Semipale, Pale, Extrapale, Semidark, Faded, Weak, Dark, Dull, Extradark) should be changed, let alone moved.


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#19 2019-08-19 17:48:19

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Re: Color namer

PiotrGrochowski wrote:

That's just asking for confusion with the previous systems. I don't think the existing names (Bright, Semipale, Pale, Extrapale, Semidark, Faded, Weak, Dark, Dull, Extradark) should be changed, let alone moved.

it's only suggestion, cause "Extra" doesn't seems good word for me (Semiextra is even worser), but as suggestion you don't have to apply it to your colour naming system
so what about the rest of my naming?? would it be usefull or not!? it gives only 6/7 unknows instead 13


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#20 2019-08-19 19:09:48, last edited by PiotrGrochowski (2019-08-19 20:29:24)

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Re: Color namer

Trytu wrote:
PiotrGrochowski wrote:

That's just asking for confusion with the previous systems. I don't think the existing names (Bright, Semipale, Pale, Extrapale, Semidark, Faded, Weak, Dark, Dull, Extradark) should be changed, let alone moved.

it's only suggestion, cause "Extra" doesn't seems good word for me (Semiextra is even worser), but as suggestion you don't have to apply it to your colour naming system
so what about the rest of my naming?? would it be usefull or not!? it gives only 6/7 unknows instead 13

Undoing your transformations to base names results in an extra unknown between Semidark and Dark and between Pale and Extrapale. And the final result will obviously have 0 unknowns and no duplicate names (like your Desaturated/Desaturated), filling the entire 2D space with unique names. Your ideas could be considered though.

Edit: Uhh...

Uhh...

Edit: First prototype of this expanded color name system thingy?

Bright		Faintpale	Semipale	Underpale	Pale		Overpale	Extrapale	Ultrapale	#GRAY

Faintdark	Semifaded	Semiweak	Weakish		Dimpale		Fadedpale	Weakpale	#GRAY

Semidark	Hard		Faded		Semidull	Weak		Extraweak	#GRAY

Underdark	Underdurk	Underdull	Extrafaded	Dimweak		#GRAY

Dark		Durk		Dull		Weakdull	#GRAY

Overdark	Fadeddark	Weakdark	#GRAY

Extradark	Extradull	#GRAY

Ultradark	#GRAY

#GRAY



White
Ultralight Gray
Extralight Gray
Overlight Gray
Light Gray
Underlight Gray
Semilight Gray
Faintlight Gray
Mid Gray
Faintdark Gray
Semidark Gray
Underdark Gray
Dark Gray
Overdark Gray
Extradark Gray
Ultradark Gray
Black



Red
Scarlet
Vermilion
Persimmon
Orange
Orangepeel
Amber
Goldenyellow
Yellow
Starship
Lime
Pear
Chartreuse
Pistachio
Harlequin
Neongreen
Green
Freespeechgreen
Erin
Cathodegreen
Springgreen
Greengas
Aquamarine
Springcyan
Cyan
Neonblue
Capri
Pervenche
Azure
Heroicblue
Cerulean
Richblue
Blue
Ultramarine
Indigo
Pansy
Violet
Grape
Purple
Phlox
Magenta
Hotmagenta
Cerise
Hollywoodcerise
Rose
Razzmatazz
Crimson
Torchred

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