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#1 2019-01-06 23:40:12

LukeM
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Clearing up yesterday's drama

Hi

A lot of drama has been happening over the last 24 hours, and I'd like to clear some of it up

Firstly, yes, Me Gosha and Phinarose were fired yesterday night

We've all been having arguments about the way things are being run recently, which led to massive tension between us, on top of rising concerns about the implications for EEU. This basically led to a negative feedback loop, which eventually pushed Xenonetix over the edge and he fired us all //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

Since then, I've been having discussions with him and ByteArray, and we all agree that something has to change or EEU would clearly suffer. We've been discussing the best course of action and I believe we're at a good enough point where we can continue to make progress on EEU, so I'm happy to say I'll be rejoining the team, and hopefully the changes we've agreed on will be enough prevent something like this from happening in the future, we'll see how it goes XD

I sincerely hope we will continue to work together to make EEU great!

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#2 2019-01-06 23:42:18

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Yaay, you're the best helpful developer there is. Just saying the fact //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

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#3 2019-01-06 23:45:05

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Big question: What about the others? Will Xeno explain himself - he really should apologize for the mess he is causing, in accusing everyone else and not looking into the mirror just once.


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#4 2019-01-06 23:45:23

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Glad your back on! What was the debate about? -TheWeirdMen

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#5 2019-01-06 23:45:28

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Thanks for clearing this up //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile
Now let's just call it "clearing the mess after yesterday's party",
since there is a lot to fix.


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#6 2019-01-06 23:47:17

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Aww it's over already?


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#7 2019-01-06 23:50:35

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Rest in peace to Xenonetix's account.

I heard that Gosha and someone else had a backdoor to EE and deleted Xeno's account; just to confirm that this is true?

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#8 2019-01-06 23:51:04

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Helvi wrote:

Big question: What about the others? Will Xeno explain himself - he really should apologize for the mess he is causing, in accusing everyone else and not looking into the mirror just once.

He is planning on making a statement fairly soon (when he has time), not sure what he's going to say but hopefully it should help clear things up //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

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#9 2019-01-06 23:51:16

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Not true, please wait for something official to be said or hang out in the unofficial discord.

Gosha wasn't involved, just atilla as far as I'm aware.

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#10 2019-01-07 00:00:24

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

I see Gosha and Phina had their statuses removed on the forums. Are their releases being considered final, or is this just until Xeno makes an official statement? Personally, I strongly believe they should both still be on the team and recognized for their contributions, but I feel that's a whole other rabbit hole on its own Diff would prefer me not to go down.

Edit:
The former is supposed to be more of a question for Diff since I'm assuming he was responsible for changing their rank on the forums unless Xeno did it himself. If the statement itself is too much, just snip it please.

Anyway, I'm happy you're back Luke.

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#11 2019-01-07 00:39:44

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

I heard something about gosha giving universal admin or something.


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#12 2019-01-07 00:41:07

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

Raphe9000 wrote:

I see Gosha and Phina had their statuses removed on the forums. Are their releases being considered final, or is this just until Xeno makes an official statement? Personally, I strongly believe they should both still be on the team and recognized for their contributions, but I feel that's a whole other rabbit hole on its own Diff would prefer me not to go down.

Edit:
The former is supposed to be more of a question for Diff since I'm assuming he was responsible for changing their rank on the forums unless Xeno did it himself. If the statement itself is too much, just snip it please.

Anyway, I'm happy you're back Luke.

My current understanding of things is that the current staff layout is relatively stable for the moment so I matched it on the forums.


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#13 2019-01-07 02:59:07

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

yeah, no
im not happy with any of this until xeno actually speaks up to public (instead of wooting posts) and until the whole drama is handled for gosha and phina as well

LukeM wrote:

He is planning on making a statement fairly soon (when he has time)

better do it asap


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#14 2019-01-07 05:19:55

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

I kind of doubt Xenonetix will suddenly change as a person and be more kind and respectful towards his staff, especially since he already promised to do so to Phinarose and others.
I hear you're pretty kind on the other hand, and while I do admire your optimism, I think your innocence leads way to naivety and an inability to recognize a character flaw in a character who is apparently unable to remediate any flaws.
I remember in the Slack chat he said he'd begun counselling for his anger issues, since he's had plenty of outbursts then. I can't say there appears to be much of a difference.

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#15 2019-01-07 14:51:38

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Re: Clearing up yesterday's drama

I saw 4 new topics in Game Business so I thought one of them will be his explanation
None of them //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad

ah it's in Q&A

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