Mysterion's Idea: Extremely high energy prices for classic items.

John · 2017-07-26 02:38:49

In my previous topic, I talked about how having 100 of each world is pretty worthless and that we should have the ability to convert energy into gems. After a bit of discussion, Mysterion suggested the following.

Mysterion wrote:

Emalton wrote:
Even if the energy to gem conversion was insane I am sure people would prefer to spend their energy getting gems instead of getting more worlds.
why not this? it's better and the newbies don't need to convert energys to gems

Thoughts? This would be a really good idea.

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EDIT: Fixed img tags.

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WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWM · 2017-07-26 03:49:05

what about people who have everything? my classic tab is empty.

peace

Krosis · 2017-07-26 03:55:49

EE needs to make money
If you want to get a cosmetic smiley, pay for it, you aren't missing anything if you don't have it
As for blocks, this might be a good idea, but there are still many substitutes to classic blocks with very similar texture/minimap color
And btw, these aren't extremely high prices, i'd say 100k for each block pack

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Gosha · 2017-07-26 03:59:45

Krosis wrote:

EE needs to make money

Sorry, did you mean NVD needs to?

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skullz17 · 2017-07-26 16:46:28

I don't think classic items should ever be bought with energy. I also don't really see the need for energy sinks. Just stay at max energy if you don't want 100s of worlds.

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HeyNK · 2017-07-26 17:20:56

^ But that's inefficient. I need to keep spending it to get maximum profit.

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Gosha · 2017-07-26 17:57:13

Give all blocks to people
Energy for cosmetic changes like auras and smileys

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N1KF · 2017-07-26 22:54:57

Gosha wrote:

Give all blocks to people

In before new players complain that they're flooded with hundreds of blocks

Offensive Ray

Tomahawk · 2017-07-27 02:12:34

So how much energy should a classic item cost? Maybe the amount of time you need to buy a classic item with energy should match the time you need to buy it with gems from the login rewards?

Well, you get 6 gems from the login rewards in 30 days, and refill 17,280 energy in that time.

That's a ratio of 2,880 energy per gem. Round it up to 3,000 and a 20-gem classic item costs 60,000 energy.

*flawless logic*

▼Why this calculation was stupid

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John · 2017-07-27 04:46:25

WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWM wrote:

what about people who have everything? my classic tab is empty.

I have everything as well, but this might be useful for some people who don't.

Krosis wrote:

EE needs to make money
If you want to get a cosmetic smiley, pay for it, you aren't missing anything if you don't have it
As for blocks, this might be a good idea, but there are still many substitutes to classic blocks with very similar texture/minimap color
And btw, these aren't extremely high prices, i'd say 100k for each block pack

"People shouldn't have to pay for blocks." - Nou (paraphrased) 2k(something)

skullz17 wrote:

I don't think classic items should ever be bought with energy. I also don't really see the need for energy sinks. Just stay at max energy if you don't want 100s of worlds.

How do you expect people to keep playing the game if there is nothing left for them to obtain? I disagree with your post.

Tomahawk wrote:

So how much energy should a classic item cost? <snip>

I like Mysterion's pricepoints, cost in gems * 1000.

Weirdoverse · 2017-07-27 07:37:52

No because This is EE, not EBE, EE2, or EE RS
this is one and original one, not remake.
this needs to be gems because it was on energy long time ago. so no.
newer players shall never get anything more easily than we got, they now get so much stuff for free while we spent thousands of energy on it.
NO.

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John · 2017-07-27 15:32:53

Weirdoverse wrote:

No because This is EE, not EBE, EE2, or EE RS
this is one and original one, not remake.
this needs to be gems because it was on energy long time ago. so no.
newer players shall never get anything more easily than we got, they now get so much stuff for free while we spent thousands of energy on it.
NO.

Not only are you extremely greedy, but do you even care about the future of this game? You're correct; this is EE. How are the other copies relevant? Users shouldn't have to pay to build on a game that is all about building unique levels.

You wrote:

newer players shall never get anything more easily than we got

How is spending 20K energy for a block pack easier than you obtaining the item in the past for less than 1K energy? Either you're an idiot or you didn't actually read my post.

You wrote:

they now get so much stuff for free while we spent thousands of energy on it.

And they'll have to spend tens of thousands more for the classic items.

Kira · 2017-07-27 16:15:06

diamond for 1,000,000 pls

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John · 2017-07-27 16:23:40

Kira wrote:

diamond for 1,000,000 pls

I'd do it would probably take almost 5 years though lol

Kaleb · 2017-07-27 18:12:16

Emalton wrote:

Kira wrote:
diamond for 1,000,000 pls
I'd do it would probably take almost 5 years though lol

Then we would've had it by now...

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Slabdrill · 2017-07-27 18:54:21

cost*1k is way too little, maybe cost*5k

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peace · 2017-07-28 14:34:39

Kaleb wrote:

Emalton wrote:
Kira wrote:
diamond for 1,000,000 pls
I'd do it would probably take almost 5 years though lol
Then we would've had it by now...

just 2 years if im not wrong 100K=like 69 days times 10=690 days=almost 2 years rip

Guest. · 2017-07-29 03:54:35

but mysterions """idea""" is from a **** remake that cant legally sell gems so they have to use energy for classic items

but its a bad idea overall, give gems almost no purpose

John · 2017-07-29 06:18:20

Slabdrill wrote:

cost*1k is way too little, maybe cost*5k

honestly i dont care how much its worth because i have enough blank worlds.

Ernesdo wrote:

but mysterions """idea""" is from a **** remake that cant legally sell gems so they have to use energy for classic items
but its a bad idea overall, give gems almost no purpose

didn't you quit? anyway.. welcome back
not really because it's about speed. if people want it in this century then they would buy it. it just would be nice to have an energy sink that isn't worlds.

Anatoly · 2017-07-29 07:16:18

Tomahawk wrote:

So how much energy should a classic item cost? Maybe the amount of time you need to buy a classic item with energy should match the time you need to buy it with gems from the login rewards?
Well, you get 6 gems from the login rewards in 30 days, and refill 17,280 energy in that time.
That's a ratio of 2,880 energy per gem. Round it up to 3,000 and a 20-gem classic item costs 60,000 energy.
*flawless logic*
▼Why this calculation was stupid
1. You probably won't be able to avoid sitting at max energy unless your energy capacity is huge or you log in very consistently.
2. You receive energy from the login rewards, reducing the time needed to earn 6-gems-worth of energy. I couldn't factor this in to the calculation because I can't find out what you earn on streak 23 (see this post/thread).
▼Login rewards except idk
Streak >> Reward:
2 >> 10 energy
3 >> 25 energy
4 >> 50 energy
5 >> 75 energy
6 >> 100 energy
7 >> 150 energy
8 >> 200 energy
9 >> +1 Gem
10 >> 25 energy
11 >> 50 energy
12 >> 75 energy
13 >> 100 energy
14 >> 150 energy
15 >> 200 energy
16 >> +2 Gems
17 >> 25 energy
18 >> 50 energy
19 >> 75 energy
20 >> 100 energy
21 >> 150 energy
22 >> 200 energy
23 >> ?????????? 10 energy?
24 >> 25 energy
25 >> 50 energy
26 >> 75 energy
27 >> 100 energy
28 >> 150 energy
29 >> 200 energy
30 >> +3 Gems
... >> Repeat
3. Where is my life.

Actually the idea is not bad. Login 5 days in a Row to get a classic item. It means, before you don't have all classic items from daily streak received.

Let me try to explain it in your english.
1) Got all Classic Items?
-> Receive Gems and Energy from Daily Login.
2) Opposite of (1)?
-> Receive Classics and Energy from Daily Login.

Offensive Ray · 2017-08-19 19:44:38

I agree with this idea.
In fact i was going to suggest the same idea..
Let's hope admins to read this suggestion..

skullz17 · 2017-08-20 11:49:47

Emalton wrote:

skullz17 wrote:
I don't think classic items should ever be bought with energy. I also don't really see the need for energy sinks. Just stay at max energy if you don't want 100s of worlds.
How do you expect people to keep playing the game if there is nothing left for them to obtain? I disagree with your post.

I mean if you're just logging in for the energy shop, I wouldn't call that playing the game. If you quit the game, it's because you got bored, not because the energy shop didn't have enough items. And don't tell me that spending energy is fun. You can play cookie clicker if you find enjoyment from something like that. But EE is not an idle game like cookie clicker, so let's avoid treating it like one.

The 135 Guy · 2017-08-23 20:27:00

Weirdoverse wrote:

No because This is EE, not EBE, EE2, or EE RS
this is one and original one, not remake.
this needs to be gems because it was on energy long time ago. so no.
newer players shall never get anything more easily than we got, they now get so much stuff for free while we spent thousands of energy on it.
NO.

I hope you know about EE's plans to change "Classic" to "Seasonal" which will put classics at their old energy price (so 200-2000 energy) when the time of the year is right Then again, EE is dead, not like they will do something like that.

bgic · 2018-02-20 22:47:19

Add this as well.

Luka504 · 2018-02-20 23:13:44

Jet wrote:

but mysterions """idea""" is from a **** remake that cant legally sell gems so they have to use energy for classic items
but its a bad idea overall, give gems almost no purpose

This is a common misconception when it comes to free to play games, and it's one you rarely see consumers being concerned for.
Having a way to get everything in your game without spending a single penny isn't gonna make less people buy your paid currency AKA gems.
Sure, you need to make it a very slow process so that gems don't become worthless, but if people really want those classic packs, then either they can pour in a lot of time and dedication, or decide that their time is more valuable and just decide to spend a few gems on it.
Also I find it a real kick in the butt to not be able to acquire certain packs (2011 and 2012 packs are some of the better packs in EE no less) just because you joined this game at a later time.
I approve of this idea.

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