The timing of celebration of new year is wrong

TaskManager · 2018-01-01 00:53:23

right now every region of earth celebrates the new year when the time on their clocks strikes 00:00:00 jan 1st 2018
the people that live in the far east regions celebrate it first, the people that live in the far west are the last

THAT
IS
WRONG

technically, a year is when the Earth makes a full cycle around the sun
thus, a new year is when earth passes a specific point or line in its orbit, finishing the cycle and starting a new one
lets call it the mighty CYCLE FINISH/START LINE

since earth is a spherical object (jk its flat) and passes the line at a specific speed, each region of the earth will pass this line at a different point in time
looking deeper into it we could say that every region/point on earth has its own finish/start line, since every single one of them begins a new year at a different time but ill ignore that overcomplicated ****

for further explanations, we'll assume that:
point A is the point on Earth that will first enter the 2018 (the leftmost point of the circle)
point B is the point that will enter the 2018 last (the rightmost point of the circle)
now it's about time for some math
earth's radius = approximately 6 371 km
earth's orbit raidus = 149.60Mkm = 149 600 000 km
one complete orbit cycle = 1 sidereal year = 365.256 days = 31558118.4 seconds
thus the time difference between point A and point B for entering new year is:
31558118.4 * 6371 / 149600000 ≈ 1343.96 seconds = 22.4 minutes
thus the people living in point B should celebrate new year 22.4 minutes after the people in point A
(and not 12 hours which is caused by time zones)

now, you may ask WHEN do we start celebrating new year???
the answer is so S I M P L E
to begin with,
RIGHT NOW the celebration cycle starts east of japan and ends in the pacific ocean doing this cycle in 24 hours
like this:

people start celebrating new year on the international date line, and then celebration proceeds along the red arrow
point C is an example, showing that if people in the point C celebrate new year at this very moment then it's midnight (00:00) here and the sun is on the opposite side from earth

THE WAY IT SHOULD BE: the people should celebrate the new year 365 days after the previous one, BUT
in these pictures we look at earth-sun system in a topdown view and assume that earth spins around the sun counter clockwise, then it spins around itself (the 24-hour spin) in the opposite direction, which is clockwise (yes i googled this)
THUS, the first people that should be celebrating new year are the people that have the sunset at their location at this very moment, since they are in the point A location which will pass the cycle finish/start line the first
the celebration "wave" in this case will move across the planet as follows:

points C1 and C2 (in 3D it would be a circle instead of 2 points) are where people celebrate new year right now and together with the finish/start line they move from point A to B relatively to earth in 22.4 minutes

CONCLUSION
the moment of celebration of new year should durate for 22.4 minutes and move in a circle wave across the earth irrespectible of timezones, instead of a halfcircle starting from GMT+12 and moving to GMT-12 during 24 hours.
we could also consider the fact that the earth spinning would offset the points A and B during the new year celebration but during these 22.4 minutes the earth will spin by just 5.6 degrees, thus we can neglect that

Zumza, Dencc, hummerz5, Slabdrill, Gosha, Swarth100, kreacher, Pingohits

Zumza · 2018-01-01 01:00:43

Redolol made it a couple of months ago
HG found it
And I remembered about it

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Nice post, but I don't think I'm going to search the validations of what's been said. To my knowledge, there are also cultures who don't celebrate the new year today at all, and by weeks apart.

drunkbnu, drstereos, cools, Swarth100

HeyNK · 2018-01-01 02:01:41

very interestiong, but who cares?

PTU

Kkay · 2018-01-01 02:17:03

Intelligence 100

Onjit, Pingohits

TaskManager · 2018-01-01 04:09:59

Zumza wrote:

To my knowledge, there are also cultures who don't celebrate the new year today at all, and by weeks apart.

Well they are wrong and will burn in flames of Inquisition

kreacher

Bimps · 2018-01-01 04:14:56

Zumza wrote:

Redolol made it a couple of months ago
HG found it
And I remembered about it
▼Hidden text
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png

Nice post, but I don't think I'm going to search the validations of what's been said. To my knowledge, there are also cultures who don't celebrate the new year today at all, and by weeks apart.

i dont **** get it, what is "you got maxied" and why is it the **** ghostbusters thing? what DOES IT MEAN WHY WHAT IS IT

TaskManager · 2018-01-01 04:21:43

Bimps wrote:

Zumza wrote:
Redolol made it a couple of months ago
HG found it
And I remembered about it
▼Hidden text
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png

Nice post, but I don't think I'm going to search the validations of what's been said. To my knowledge, there are also cultures who don't celebrate the new year today at all, and by weeks apart.
i dont **** get it, what is "you got maxied" and why is it the **** ghostbusters thing? what DOES IT MEAN WHY WHAT IS IT

Apparently I became a meme
Idk how
I only know that the ghost is in the pictures because I always wear a in game

Bimps · 2018-01-01 04:37:39

maxi123 wrote:

Bimps wrote:
Zumza wrote:
Redolol made it a couple of months ago
HG found it
And I remembered about it
▼Hidden text
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png

Nice post, but I don't think I'm going to search the validations of what's been said. To my knowledge, there are also cultures who don't celebrate the new year today at all, and by weeks apart.
i dont **** get it, what is "you got maxied" and why is it the **** ghostbusters thing? what DOES IT MEAN WHY WHAT IS IT
Apparently I became a meme
Idk how
I only know that the ghost is in the pictures because I always wear a in game

it doesnt make any sense and i have a mini stroke everytime i see it

TaskManager, Pingohits

Slabdrill · 2018-01-01 05:03:21

maxi123 wrote:

we could also consider the fact that the earth spinning would offset the points A and B during the new year celebration but during these 22.4 minutes the earth will spin by just 5.6 degrees, thus we can neglect that

5.6/360 = 0.01555555555
Earth's circumference = 6 371 km * tau = 40030.173592km

movement during 22.4 minutes = 0.01555555555*40030.173592km = 622.69158921km
Additional time 623km is worth = 1/(40030.173592/622.69158921/22.4)*60s = 20.90666666670397185920851901760596 seconds

TaskManager

Anatoly · 2018-01-01 12:25:32

Do people actually care?

TaskManager · 2018-01-01 15:51:32

Slabdrill wrote:

maxi123 wrote:
we could also consider the fact that the earth spinning would offset the points A and B during the new year celebration but during these 22.4 minutes the earth will spin by just 5.6 degrees, thus we can neglect that
5.6/360 = 0.01555555555
Earth's circumference = 6 371 km * tau = 40030.173592km
movement during 22.4 minutes = 0.01555555555*40030.173592km = 622.69158921km
Additional time 623km is worth = 1/(40030.173592/622.69158921/22.4)*60s = 20.90666666670397185920851901760596 seconds

Oh hey thank you for your input!

AnatolyEE wrote:

Do people actually care?

People like you and HeyNK are the useless part of humanity that just holds everything back, meanwhile people like Slabdrill and I push the science and technology forward!
I see why you advertise communism so much, in a communist ideology country everyone has a similar mindset to yours, nobody cares about anything and the progress stagnates.

Anatoly · 2018-01-01 18:13:09

maxi123 wrote:

People like you and HeyNK are the useless part of humanity that just holds everything back, meanwhile people like Slabdrill and I push the science and technology forward!
I see why you advertise communism so much, in a communist ideology country everyone has a similar mindset to yours, nobody cares about anything and the progress stagnates.

Then with your logic:

- Instead of the ❤️ symbol we should use blood and bodies.
- We should stop having fun because we should give our lifies to ? science, to give the technology better progres.
- We should care about every scientist diing on this ? world, because it’s a pause for technological evolution.
- We should forget our history, because historical events are being abused (e.g. hitler).
- We should not eat animals, because they could become a better place in a laboratory.
- We should stop with politic, become one country, one religion (science), remove religion, and our children should become scientific 100%.
- People like me, who won’t care about science as perfection would become test objects in a laboratory.
- Instead of having a circus we should use lions for testing bacteria’s.
- We should use the Internet for science, games will be completely removed.

hummerz5 · 2018-01-01 18:55:44

I can't pass up an opportunity to have uselessly odd banter

AnatolyEE wrote:

- Instead of the ❤️ symbol we should use blood and bodies.

No! we should preserve life so that everyone can be scientists

- We should stop having fun because we should give our lifies to ? science, to give the technology better progres.

No! Having no fun leads to mental illness. We should just heavily curtail fun.

- We should care about every scientist diing on this ? world, because it’s a pause for technological evolution.

Yes! But really we should care about any person dying because their lives apparently have value.

- We should forget our history, because historical events are being abused (e.g. hitler).

No! Science and history are intertwined. How can we remember what we have achieved scientifically if not for recalling it in the past?

- We should not eat animals, because they could become a better place in a laboratory.

Yes! But let's be realistic, we can't get all animals into proper scientific labs and should therefore accept that some simply must be eaten to serve a pragmatic purpose.

- We should stop with politic, become one country, one religion (science), remove religion, and our children should become scientific 100%.

No! see next point

- People like me, who won’t care about science as perfection would become test objects in a laboratory.

No! You'd either be persuaded to do sciency things or ostracized. At that point you'd all form a much less successful country but politically on your own terms .. somewhere over there

- Instead of having a circus we should use lions for testing bacteria’s.

why lions? and essentially this goes back to your animal eating

- We should use the Internet for science, games will be completely removed.

well originally that really was the purpose of the Internet (ARPANET) -- connecting universities. Games can be OK but at this point they have too high a prevalence on the internet!

(I don't really believe what I'm saying except to extend the "science should be important on all fronts" in ways you aren't focusing on)

TaskManager

Anatoly · 2018-01-01 19:45:31

▼hummerz5 wrote:

I can't pass up an opportunity to have uselessly odd banter

AnatolyEE wrote:

- Instead of the ❤️ symbol we should use blood and bodies.

No! we should preserve life so that everyone can be scientists

- We should stop having fun because we should give our lifies to ? science, to give the technology better progres.

No! Having no fun leads to mental illness. We should just heavily curtail fun.

- We should care about every scientist diing on this ? world, because it’s a pause for technological evolution.

Yes! But really we should care about any person dying because their lives apparently have value.

- We should forget our history, because historical events are being abused (e.g. hitler).

No! Science and history are intertwined. How can we remember what we have achieved scientifically if not for recalling it in the past?

- We should not eat animals, because they could become a better place in a laboratory.

Yes! But let's be realistic, we can't get all animals into proper scientific labs and should therefore accept that some simply must be eaten to serve a pragmatic purpose.

- We should stop with politic, become one country, one religion (science), remove religion, and our children should become scientific 100%.

No! see next point

- People like me, who won’t care about science as perfection would become test objects in a laboratory.

No! You'd either be persuaded to do sciency things or ostracized. At that point you'd all form a much less successful country but politically on your own terms .. somewhere over there

- Instead of having a circus we should use lions for testing bacteria’s.

why lions? and essentially this goes back to your animal eating

- We should use the Internet for science, games will be completely removed.

well originally that really was the purpose of the Internet (ARPANET) -- connecting universities. Games can be OK but at this point they have too high a prevalence on the internet!

(I don't really believe what I'm saying except to extend the "science should be important on all fronts" in ways you aren't focusing on)

That was all sarcastic, for the perfection of this topic up to meters.

hummerz5 · 2018-01-01 19:46:23

AnatolyEE wrote:

That was all sarcastic, for the perfection of this topic up to meters.

mine too, but at some point I forgot the sarcasm and then regained it again

Anatoly · 2018-01-01 19:48:12

hummerz5 wrote:

AnatolyEE wrote:
That was all sarcastic, for the perfection of this topic up to meters.
mine too, but at some point I forgot the sarcasm and then regained it again

I think I've had enough woots for today

hummerz5

TaskManager · 2018-01-01 20:24:17

i 100% agree with you hummerz
anatoly is bad and should be sacrificed in the laboratory in the name of science

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