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easy tutorial for beginers

can someone write how to code bots, where do it.

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hummerz5

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=26763
https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=26179
https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=11972
https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=36087
http://wiki.everybodyedits.com/Guide:Bot_Programming

have you checked these out

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Zumza

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

May I ask you why would you like to write bots?

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

I like bots, so I'd like to see what you can come up with .

Latif

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

You need a lot of motivation and some time to learn how to program, if you want to be self-taught. I don't recommend starting with an EE bot immediately. Just begin with the basics. Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

mutantdevle

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

Don’t assume Google’s gender.

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LukeM

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

You need a lot of motivation and some time to learn how to program, if you want to be self-taught. I don't recommend starting with an EE bot immediately. Just begin with the basics. Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

I started programming with end goals that were waaaay out of my reach, and although I never really met them, I think it was a fairly good way to learn as it provides the motivation you need to learn the things you need to.

I agree with the google bit though

drunkbnu

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

I started programming by pure trial and error. Krock has been guiding me about efficient method implementations.

Tomahawk

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

I can't say I've seen a great bot tutorial yet. The first problem with all of them is that they don't emphasise enough the difference between C# knowledge and bot-coding knowledge, where the first is equally as important as the second.

A good tutorial should start by assuming that the reader is already competent in programming (ideally in a C-language or similar). If not, it should force a number of "Learn C#" links down the reader's throat (whether they like it or not) and say "come back when u less nub", and preferably enforce this by assuming a minimum level of competence throughout the tutorial. I spent a good month learning C# before I touched SimpleConnect, and it's crucial to learn the concepts of generic programming along with the language-specific syntax and semantics.

Once our reader is somewhat enlightened, and after hours of fiddling with syntax errors have knocked the stars out of their eyes and convinced them that coding a decent bot is a good hard grind, the tutorial must begin with theory. In the same way that you learn the concept of a loop before coding loops, you have to be able to answer fundamental questions about bots before coding bots;

What is PlayerIO? What is the PlayerIOClient library and why do I need it? What is a PlayerIO Message and what happens when my bot joins a world? What is the EE Protocol and how do I apply it? Which message types are the most important, what do they contain and when/how does the bot receive them?

Then - and only then - should we start with PlayerIO-specific code. The second mistake that many tutorials make is by handing the reader some amount of code without properly explaining its parts. In theory the reader should be able to read through the documentation and find out for themselves, but that wouldn't make it a great tutorial. For example, here's a bad start:

▼Tutorial: Connecting your bot to a world

This code connects the bot to an EE world:

▼Room connection

Connection con;
const string gameID = "everybody-edits-su9rn58o40itdbnw69plyw";

string email = "[email protected]";
string password = "please don't hardcode this and then copy/paste your code and make your acc shared";
string roomID = "PW..UI";

PlayerIO.QuickConnect.SimpleConnect(gameID, email, password, null, delegate (Client c)
{
    c.Multiplayer.CreateJoinRoom(roomID, "Everybodyedits" + c.BigDB.Load("config", "config")["version"], true, null, null, delegate (Connection rawr)
    {
        con = rawr;
        con.Send("init");
        con.OnMessage += con_OnMessage;
        con.OnDisconnect += con_OnDisconnect;
    },
    delegate (PlayerIOError rip)
    {
        MessageBox.Show(rip.Message, "Room-connection error");
    });
},
delegate (PlayerIOError error)
{
    MessageBox.Show(error.Message, "Game-connection error");
});

This is safer because the connection method can return any errors, and the bot won't crash.

...

This is a better start:

▼The basics

Let's start by connecting to a world. This process requires two distinct connection methods; the first method connects to EE specifically (instead of to a different PlayerIO game), and the second method connects to an EE world. The bot must first connect to EE before connecting to a world (see here for how to connect to the lobby instead of to a world, and the features this provides).

1) Connecting to the game:

PlayerIO games are identified by unique strings called "game IDs". The one we're interested in is "everybody-edits-su9rn58o40itdbnw69plyw", which identifies EE. You can put this in the connection method or create a global string variable to store it for multiple uses throughout your code.

The PlayerIO class contains two sub-classes that handle game-connection, Connect and QuickConnect. The Connect class can be used when the bot is connecting with an everybodyedits.com account, while the QuickConnect class - as well as being able to do this - also has methods that connect to the game via third-parties such as Facebook or Kongregate. In order to make a public bot that all players can use, the players must be able to log in with any of the three platforms (or, click here for an explanation of how to avoid this issue by connecting with the account's EE username).

We will start by looking at the PlayerIO.QuickConnect.SimpleConnect method, which connects using an everybodyedits.com account. If you examine this method with IntelliSense, you can see it requires several parameters, which may vary depending on the version of the PlayerIOClient.dll that you're using. The parameters in square brackets are optional overloads:

(1) string gameId,
(2) string usernameOrEmail,
(3) string password,
(4) string[] playerInsightSegments,
[5] Callback<Client> successCallback,
[6] Callback<PlayerIOError> errorCallback,

The first parameter is the string we introduced earlier, "everybody-edits-su9rn58o40itdbnw69plyw".

The second and third parameters are for the email (or username) and password of the account that you're connecting (note that you need to provide this authentication immediately the same way you do when playing EE - you log in to the game first, then join a specific room).

PlayerInsight is an analytics tool provided by PlayerIO to its game developers, which offers a bunch of information about the game such as the number of active users, daily revenue, and the average session time per user. Segments is PlayerIO's name for different types of game-connections, such as Facebook or Kongregate users (ee.com users are 'Simple' users, hence the name SimpleConnect - see log in with username for more information on this).

Unless you have access to a moderator's account, these analytics won't be available to you [confirmation required], so just leave this parameter null.

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It takes ages to write a really in-depth bot tutorial, and even this fraction of a fraction above took me a while to write. I can't really blame anyone for not having done it.

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capasha

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Joined: 2015-02-21

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

I can't say I've seen a great bot tutorial yet. The first problem with all of them is that they don't emphasise enough the difference between C# knowledge and bot-coding knowledge, where the first is equally as important as the second.

A good tutorial should start by assuming that the reader is already competent in programming (ideally in a C-language or similar). If not, it should force a number of "Learn C#" links down the reader's throat (whether they like it or not) and say "come back when u less nub", and preferably enforce this by assuming a minimum level of competence throughout the tutorial. I spent a good month learning C# before I touched SimpleConnect, and it's crucial to learn the concepts of generic programming along with the language-specific syntax and semantics.

Once our reader is somewhat enlightened, and after hours of fiddling with syntax errors have knocked the stars out of their eyes and convinced them that coding a decent bot is a good hard grind, the tutorial must begin with theory. In the same way that you learn the concept of a loop before coding loops, you have to be able to answer fundamental questions about bots before coding bots;

What is PlayerIO? What is the PlayerIOClient library and why do I need it? What is a PlayerIO Message and what happens when my bot joins a world? What is the EE Protocol and how do I apply it? Which message types are the most important, what do they contain and when/how does the bot receive them?

Then - and only then - should we start with PlayerIO-specific code. The second mistake that many tutorials make is by handing the reader some amount of code without properly explaining its parts. In theory the reader should be able to read through the documentation and find out for themselves, but that wouldn't make it a great tutorial. For example, here's a bad start:

It feels like you have so much of motivation. Maybe you should make your own tutorial instead. I don't have the motivation to make anything to a dying game.

drunkbnu

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Joined: 2017-08-16

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

The real problem has absolutely nothing to do with language structures or libraries.

The real problem is that everybody here thinks of programming as program writing and compiling, an horribly wrong concept. I'm sure almost (to not say just all) all here don't even know about pseudo-code or algorithms.

MartenM

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

*cough* *cough*
https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=36612

They show you the very basics of connecting n stuff.
These videos expect you to know some basic stuff about programming in general tho :/
Can't say they are anywhere near perfect but the videos of Jabatheblob1 really helped me to start.

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Tomahawk

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

It feels like you have so much of motivation. Maybe you should make your own tutorial instead.

Bah. The day I wake up with that much motivation is the day I'll spend doing the things I should be doing, like coursework.

Having said that, I may decide to write a tutorial bit by bit and release a chapter per week. If there's enough interest, I'll consider it.

1 woot = 1 interest ^^

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den3107

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

1 woot = 1 interest ^^

Inb4 people woot it to make you waste your time (since they're not actually interested).
jk, we'll see how it turns out.

Latif

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

Don’t assume Google’s gender.

It*

Vinyl Melody

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

Don’t assume Google’s gender.

It*

They*

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

Don’t assume Google’s gender.

It*

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Latif

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

Ask your questions to google, he's your best friend.

Don’t assume Google’s gender.

It*

They*

You know I mean the search engine and not the people who work in the company..

SirJosh3917

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Re: easy tutorial for beginers

Or consider using JavaScript instead of C# since web development can get you much farther in life as well as cross platform abilities of running a bot on a website

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