About EBE, and it's community.(not a hate post toward ebe)

Bimps · 2017-09-15 21:21:25

icepegasus wrote:

Bimps wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
MartenM wrote:
'He could do anything he wants'
he's not god, he definitly can't do ****
EE already contacted playerIO before about shutting down EBE, and they just ignored them. Too bad.
they could sue them but no one cares about ebe so it doesnt matter
They can't even sue, such a case will never even get to court.

ee is copywritten

LukeM

Nebula · 2017-09-15 21:29:32

icepegasus wrote:

EEJoranasc wrote:
when will ebe announce new owner of ebe: NVD
When EBE's owner will be NVD it will die to as well as EE, let me ask you a question: when was the last time you saw NVD online?
it was the biggest mistake to move the ownership from nou to nvd

mrjawapa didnt wanted nou. kek?

LukeM · 2017-09-15 23:16:17

NVD definitely could get EBE taken down if he wanted to. I'm not saying he will / is likely to, just that he could.

Copyright laws state that if someone copies your intellectual property (e.g. a game you own) you can force them to take it down, and claim any profits they may have made as your own.
You can do all this without even getting an official copyright, and if you do you can also get them to pay for your legal fees.

Note: I'm not a lawyer, just did some research about this a while ago, so some parts could be wrong

Swarth100 · 2017-09-16 08:45:22

destroyer123 wrote:

NVD definitely could get EBE taken down if he wanted to. I'm not saying he will / is likely to, just that he could.
Copyright laws state that if someone copies your intellectual property (e.g. a game you own) you can force them to take it down, and claim any profits they may have made as your own.
You can do all this without even getting an official copyright, and if you do you can also get them to pay for your legal fees.
Note: I'm not a lawyer, just did some research about this a while ago, so some parts could be wrong

Copyright is very very iffy when it comes to software though,

If you think about Valve's DotA2, they literally ripped off characters, abilities (with same cooldowns, names, everything) from DotA1 and DotA Allstars. Blizzard owned copyright over a few of the characters and all that happened was a slight model redesign.

When it comes to a videogame copyright can be of two types:
1) The actual sourcecode. Code that behaves the exact same way, yet wasn't copied from the original one, is not (generally) subject to copyright.
2) Sprites. Literally changing any minor detail in the design of any sprite will make it become "your intellectual creation" making most copyright regulations unnaplicable.

LukeM · 2017-09-16 10:05:03

IIRC they copied the whole client, and have just changed a few things, so the source code would still obviously be directly copied from EE wouldn't it?

Some of the other clients that were made from scratch would be fine though

Swarth100, benedani

Gosha · 2017-09-16 12:11:48

Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.

LukeM, Luka504, Offensive Ray, Xfrogman43

icepegasus · 2017-09-17 14:35:49

Gosha wrote:

Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.

Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.

I'll be honest with you guys, I am really surprised anyone is playing EE after the last update they released.
I mean have u even seen the horrible cowgirl?

LukeM · 2017-09-17 15:45:08

icepegasus wrote:

Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.

You say that sarcastically (I assume)... But its pretty much true... Thats all youd need to do to get a client connected to a private server
Yes youd need to recreate the server, but the point was the client code would be easily recognisable as a copy of the original, so that doesnt make a difference.

icepegasus wrote:

I'll be honest with you guys, I am really surprised anyone is playing EE after the last update they released.
I mean have u even seen the horrible cowgirl?

Oh noes, they added one smiley that looks a bit bad so the game is no longer worth playing!!!

Luka504, benedani

Luka504 · 2017-09-17 16:39:55

icepegasus wrote:

Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
I'll be honest with you guys, I am really surprised anyone is playing EE after the last update they released.
I mean have u even seen the horrible cowgirl?

Really? Is this the best you can do?
One smiley from one update does not make the game unplayable.

Btw Icepegasus the slow block is bad, I'm suprised people still play EBE.

benedani

icepegasus · 2017-09-17 17:10:00

destroyer123 wrote:

icepegasus wrote:
I'll be honest with you guys, I am really surprised anyone is playing EE after the last update they released.
I mean have u even seen the horrible cowgirl?
Oh noes, they added one smiley that looks a bit bad so the game is no longer worth playing!!!

The reason toop quit was because EE wanted to use all the bad graphics he made, that he himself didn't even want to add.

Luka504 wrote:

icepegasus wrote:
Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
I'll be honest with you guys, I am really surprised anyone is playing EE after the last update they released.
I mean have u even seen the horrible cowgirl?
Btw Icepegasus the slow block is bad, I'm suprised people still play EBE.

Everyone who play it like the slow effect, I don't see wheres the problem here? It's actually a good feature
think about a music world for example, wouldnt u want to give them a slow effect instead of using ladders or wahatever.

LukeM · 2017-09-17 17:14:07

icepegasus wrote:

▼destroyer123 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
Oh noes, they added one smiley that looks a bit bad so the game is no longer worth playing!!!
The reason toop quit was because EE wanted to use all the bad graphics he made, that he himself didn't even want to add.

Not sure how true that is... Do you have any evidence, or is that just speculation?

icepegasus · 2017-09-17 17:32:17

destroyer123 wrote:

icepegasus wrote:
▼destroyer123 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
Oh noes, they added one smiley that looks a bit bad so the game is no longer worth playing!!!
The reason toop quit was because EE wanted to use all the bad graphics he made, that he himself didn't even want to add.
Not sure how true that is... Do you have any evidence, or is that just speculation?

I have no evidence, and it isn't a speculation either, this is just a fact.
You can choose to believe it or not, but I have no purpose of lying here.

LukeM · 2017-09-17 17:38:14

icepegasus wrote:

destroyer123 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
▼destroyer123 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
Oh noes, they added one smiley that looks a bit bad so the game is no longer worth playing!!!
The reason toop quit was because EE wanted to use all the bad graphics he made, that he himself didn't even want to add.
Not sure how true that is... Do you have any evidence, or is that just speculation?
I have no evidence, and it isn't a speculation either, this is just a fact.
You can choose to believe it or not, but I have no purpose of lying here.

If you have no evidence then it is just speculation...
I dont mean evidence you can show us, just anything at all, e.g. you saw him talking about it to someone, or read it in a post or something

benedani · 2017-09-17 18:58:44

I'm laughing so hard.
>an ugly smiley makes the game unplayable
>just above
>ee can't take down ebe even though ebe uses ee's graphics and source code

Guest. · 2017-09-17 20:27:57

icepegasus wrote:

destroyer123 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
▼destroyer123 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
Oh noes, they added one smiley that looks a bit bad so the game is no longer worth playing!!!
The reason toop quit was because EE wanted to use all the bad graphics he made, that he himself didn't even want to add.
Not sure how true that is... Do you have any evidence, or is that just speculation?
I have no evidence, and it isn't a speculation either, this is just a fact.
You can choose to believe it or not, but I have no purpose of lying here.

>fact with no evidence

you do have a reason to lie, it's because you're trying to distract people with your stupid **** so people stop bashing your illegal remake.

Luka504, drunkbnu

Luka504 · 2017-09-17 21:25:51

icepegasus wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
icepegasus wrote:
Gosha wrote:
Can confirm. They just took ee client and replaced gameid with their own gameid.
Yep, we took client, and changed the gameID, and then it magically worked.
I'll be honest with you guys, I am really surprised anyone is playing EE after the last update they released.
I mean have u even seen the horrible cowgirl?
Btw Icepegasus the slow block is bad, I'm suprised people still play EBE.
Everyone who play it like the slow effect, I don't see wheres the problem here? It's actually a good feature
think about a music world for example, wouldnt u want to give them a slow effect instead of using ladders or wahatever.

Yeah, but I and a few other people don't like it.
And according to your logic, if a bunch of people don't like something in the game, then the entire game is bad.
So EBE is bad.
Case Closed ktnxbye.

drunkbnu, benedani

Offensive Ray · 2017-09-18 11:58:43

Guys, you have EBE forums right?
Go talk there about stuff you want to say not here, this is EE without (B) forums.

RailMat · 2017-09-18 15:23:36

Lets discus everything over EBE here.

I hope that this topic will be closed.

Guest. · 2017-09-18 20:38:05

MatthijsFidder wrote:

Lets discus everything over EBE here.
I hope that this topic will be closed.

hey man thanks for the free ip tracker

some woman · 2017-09-18 20:57:47

zyhrllos wrote:

MatthijsFidder wrote:
Lets discus everything over EBE here.
I hope that this topic will be closed.
hey man thanks for the free ip tracker

2spooky4diff

Michele · 2017-09-18 21:13:14

I believe that user above is right.

We've been discussing about EBE for too long, and I personally want to put this to end. I personally think we should discuss it there, but I still don't know if it's safe. Still, it could be better if this thread could be locked.

capasha · 2017-09-19 11:34:12

Michele wrote:

I personally think we should discuss it there, but I still don't know if it's safe.

No it's not safe, they are the only forum that track IP-addresses.
They can hack your IP-address so easy. They just need to connect to your IP-address and then they can put a RAT and execute it on your computer.

icepegasus

Michele · 2017-09-19 13:36:18

Tch, so they attempt to scam us by going to that EBE. That EBE link needs to be censored immediately, to prevent any further damages on PC/frauds.

The 135 Guy · 2017-09-19 20:42:41

Ok, so we got capasha being sarcastic asf. It took me a while to realize that a person can't be this retarded and that this was actually sarcasm. For anyone that believed that EBE's forums are the only forum to store IP - any site can get your ip. Go on Google and search "my ip," pIO can get and store your IP (EE does it), and I'm 100% sure that the EE forums store your IP too, as IP bans exist here
Then Michele (AKA, EBE hater), is also discouraging people for no reason and without evidence.
Then we have people spouting untrue **** about EE being copyrighted (it isn't) and how NVD could get EBE taken down any time he wanted to (but he already tried and pIO just ignored him. Completely.)
Then we have Gosha believing EBE is just a complete client copy with nothing changed but the game id. Yes it uses the EE client, but so many clientsided bugs were fixed I doubt I could go through and count them all. On the EBE forums, RM42 posts whenever he updates and what bugs were fixed, but those aren't ALL of the fixed bugs.

Actually on second thought, don't go to the EBE forum. Don't want that to be filled with toxic 10 year olds after all.

icepegasus, Michele, benedani

LukeM · 2017-09-19 21:14:43

The 135 Guy wrote:

Then we have people spouting untrue **** about EE being copyrighted (it isn't) and how NVD could get EBE taken down any time he wanted to (but he already tried and pIO just ignored him. Completely.)

Fact sheet P-01: UK Copyright Law wrote:

Copyright is an automatic right and arises whenever an individual or company creates a work. To qualify, a work should be regarded as original, and exhibit a degree of labour, skill or judgement.

Copyright Law of the United States wrote:

Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

Edit: I'm pretty sure this also applies to any country that has aggreed to the Berne Convention. The list can be found here

The 135 Guy wrote:

Then we have Gosha believing EBE is just a complete client copy with nothing changed but the game id.

The point was that it would be obvious that EBE copied EE

MartenM, Swarth100

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