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#1 2017-08-12 18:25:26

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PSA: it's a raid

If it's a raid, check the "It's a raid" box.


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#2 2017-08-12 18:28:20

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

this box or? and why should I cheak the "It's a raid" box? and what happen if I cheak the "It's a raid" box?
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#3 2017-08-12 18:33:49

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Mysterion wrote:

this box or?

yes that box

Mysterion wrote:

and why should I cheak the "It's a raid" box?

because I told you to and because you want to.

Mysterion wrote:

and what happen if I cheak the "It's a raid" box?

Sends me an email, the forums will consider banning that user without any mod intervention, the forums will lock down new user registration, some other fun stuff.


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#4 2017-08-12 18:36:19

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Different55 wrote:

Sends me an email, the forums will consider banning that user without any mod intervention, the forums will lock down new user registration, some other fun stuff.

what happen if I abuse this?


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#5 2017-08-12 18:40:24

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Mysterion wrote:
Different55 wrote:

Sends me an email, the forums will consider banning that user without any mod intervention, the forums will lock down new user registration, some other fun stuff.

what happen if I abuse this?

You can't. It'd be hard.

But if you tried you'd be warned for abuse of the report system. That kind of thing isn't to be taken lightly. But if it's in good faith then you're safe. It's impossible to accidentally or purposefully sound the alarm all by yourself.


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#6 2017-08-12 19:21:24

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Different55 wrote:

. It's impossible to accidentally or purposefully sound the alarm all by yourself.

Watch me!

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#7 2017-08-12 19:27:09

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Different55 wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
Different55 wrote:

Sends me an email, the forums will consider banning that user without any mod intervention, the forums will lock down new user registration, some other fun stuff.

what happen if I abuse this?

You can't. It'd be hard.

But if you tried you'd be warned for abuse of the report system. That kind of thing isn't to be taken lightly. But if it's in good faith then you're safe. It's impossible to accidentally or purposefully sound the alarm all by yourself.

How many alts (with reasonable veteran-ness status) do i need to be able to do that?

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#8 2017-08-13 05:47:26

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Slabdrill wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
Different55 wrote:

Sends me an email, the forums will consider banning that user without any mod intervention, the forums will lock down new user registration, some other fun stuff.

what happen if I abuse this?

You can't. It'd be hard.

But if you tried you'd be warned for abuse of the report system. That kind of thing isn't to be taken lightly. But if it's in good faith then you're safe. It's impossible to accidentally or purposefully sound the alarm all by yourself.

How many alts (with reasonable veteran-ness status) do i need to be able to do that?

More.


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#9 2017-08-13 10:02:18

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

I don't see the raid box... maybe you only gave special permission to Mysterion. But yeeaah could be useful... maybe?


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#10 2017-08-13 10:24:09

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Michele wrote:

I don't see the raid box... maybe you only gave special permission to Mysterion. But yeeaah could be useful... maybe?

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#11 2017-08-13 10:47:15

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Michele wrote:

maybe you only gave special permission to Mysterion.

It's too much power for a untrusted kid.

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#12 2017-08-13 12:38:24

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

What exactly is a raid?

Is it the creation of multiple spam, hate or advertising threads? Do lots of posts on other threads count as a raid? Can a single thread or post be a raid? Is it the creation of an arbitrary amount of content of which a significant amount breaks the rules?

I wouldn't know when to tick that box unless it was pretty obvious. Did those threads in off-topic yesterday that got deleted count as a raid?


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#13 2017-08-13 15:57:14

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Tomahawk wrote:

What exactly is a raid?

Is it the creation of multiple spam, hate or advertising threads? Do lots of posts on other threads count as a raid? Can a single thread or post be a raid? Is it the creation of an arbitrary amount of content of which a significant amount breaks the rules?

I wouldn't know when to tick that box unless it was pretty obvious. Did those threads in off-topic yesterday that got deleted count as a raid?

Lol don't go full N1KF on me. If someone creates an account just to make 500 posts with nothing but **** or long strings of copypasted HUMMERZ SUCK HUMMERZ SUCK then that's a raid.


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#14 2017-08-13 16:02:25

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Different55 wrote:

Lol don't go full N1KF on me. If someone creates an account just to make 500 posts with nothing but **** or long strings of copypasted HUMMERZ SUCK HUMMERZ SUCK then that's a raid.

Well sure, I gathered as much. But what about the other cases?


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#15 2017-08-13 17:11:36

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

What kind of edge case are you envisioning here?


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#16 2017-08-13 18:37:35

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

I asked for a definition because you've said nothing about what counts as a raid.

A spam thread gets locked, but "cheap passports visas birth certificates" gets deleted. Is one a raid, or are both? Does the amount of content matter? - can a single post or thread be a raid? The type of content is relevant, but in what way?

If you want people to report raiding as if it were another type of warning then you need to define it. Currently there's the circular "This is a raid because multiple people think it's a raid", and I'm gonna need something more concrete if a player's getting permabanned over it.

Or is it entirely unnecessary to define edge cases because ultimately a mod's gonna see it and make up his/her own mind?


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#17 2017-08-13 19:57:25

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

If a person has dedicated their account to flooding the forums with content that does not contribute to any discussion, that is a raid. There don't need to be 50 posts already made as long as the intention to do so is there.

I would not include spambots in this as they typically only make a few posts and don't massively disrupt the forums.

Examples:

User gets buttmad about staff moderation and decides to resolve this by repeatedly making topics and posts containing nothing but the phrase "DEMOD BUMMERZ6"
User gets bored and decides to resolve this by repeatedly making topics and posts containing a large variety of pornography.
User becomes convinced that the forums are operated by NSA spies and decides to resolve this by repeatedly making topics and posts warning users to stock up food supplies for the oncoming nuclear winter.

Bottom line is that there is a real person (usually not a bot) with malicious intent to try and disrupt the normal use of the forums.

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#18 2018-08-02 21:27:04

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Please see the above post regarding whether or not you should check the "This is a raid" box.

Generally we don't consider spam bots raiders because they quiet down quickly by themselves after just a few posts, and the topics quickly sink to the bottom (unless people keep replying to them because they think they're funny). Bots that post massive amounts of crap are fair game though.


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#19 2018-08-02 21:59:42

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

I told you HG!!!


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#20 2018-08-02 22:18:09

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Diff, I suggest you give your personal number to everyone on the forums. Then if there's an issue, we can all contact you directly.

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#21 2018-08-02 22:46:50

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

mrjawapa wrote:

Diff, I suggest you give your personal number to everyone on the forums. Then if there's an issue, we can all contact you directly.

no this is patrick


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#22 2018-08-03 22:02:58

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#23 2018-08-04 00:28:10

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

mrjawapa wrote:

Diff, I suggest you give your personal number to everyone on the forums. Then if there's an issue, we can all contact you directly.

There's like 5 of you that have my phone number and a code you can text it to make my phone scream like a banshee, that's good enough for me.


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#24 2018-08-04 00:37:57

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Different55 wrote:
mrjawapa wrote:

Diff, I suggest you give your personal number to everyone on the forums. Then if there's an issue, we can all contact you directly.

There's like 5 of you that have my phone number and a code you can text it to make my phone scream like a banshee, that's good enough for me.

yeah but that's not enough i want to also be able to make your computer beep at you


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#25 2018-08-04 00:54:06

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Re: PSA: it's a raid

Ratburntro44 wrote:
Different55 wrote:
mrjawapa wrote:

Diff, I suggest you give your personal number to everyone on the forums. Then if there's an issue, we can all contact you directly.

There's like 5 of you that have my phone number and a code you can text it to make my phone scream like a banshee, that's good enough for me.

yeah but that's not enough i want to also be able to make your computer beep at you

I use that computer as a foot rest/monitor stand now


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