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#1 2016-08-26 00:06:00

Bobithan
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remove rep

It's dumb and causes drama. There's nothing good that comes of the -rep feature, and if we remove that, +rep is basically just a woot that's tracked. I don't see the reason to carry around 2 separate "like" buttons. Sure you can attach a message to it, but that's not worth the bullying that comes along with adding such a feature. If you have a legitimate criticism of a post, then post in the thread and encourage discussion. A vast majority of -reps right now are direct attacks on the person, spam, or jokes. We're not gaining anything from this feature.

Since we've reached the point where we obviously don't care about a number to track these sorts of things given the addition of rep, why don't we just get rid of it and add a public woot counter for everybody?

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#2 2016-08-26 00:06:47

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Re: remove rep

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/reputa … p?uid=1381

Tell me with a straight face that that isn't harassment.


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#3 2016-08-26 00:09:53

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Re: remove rep

After thinking about it for a bit I'd have to agree.
I thought reps were a cool idea at first but with two ways to show support for a post (woots, +reps) and only one way to dislike a post (-rep), -reps are highly prevalent in many rep pages because too few people show support with +reps.

I'd be okay with either removing the woot system (and possibly limiting +/- reps to 1 per post per 5 hours) or removing the rep system.

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#4 2016-08-26 00:10:00

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Re: remove rep

N1KF wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/reputa … p?uid=1381
Tell me with a straight face that that isn't harassment

It is and I have issued warnings, thanks for bringing that up.

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#5 2016-08-26 00:11:09

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Re: remove rep

*incoming comments saying "just disable rep on your profile if ur butthurt loleleoleoel*

N1KF wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/reputa … p?uid=1381

Tell me with a straight face that that isn't harassment.

lol i should mention the anatoly.js topic to add onto that


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#6 2016-08-26 00:12:41

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Re: remove rep

Please remove rep. It's being used as bullying and serves no other purpose than to make individuals feel bad about themselves because there is little to no constructive criticism.

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#7 2016-08-26 00:18:15

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Re: remove rep

Wasn't rep only added to -rep N1KF once, joke is over?


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#8 2016-08-26 01:43:56

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Re: remove rep

N1KF wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/reputa … p?uid=1381

Tell me with a straight face that that isn't harassment.

I looked into it, and I noticed there are a lot of rep changes from the same users on the same post, which isn't supposed to happen (basically the rep checker is being bypassed by Atilla's script)

Back to the point:
Seeing negative rep all over the forums isn't fun to watch, especially when such a system is supposed to have a positive mean, because you know, a community is supposed to be nice and that stuff.

I agree with the woot counter. Most people have at least a bit of woots, and thus wouldn't feel left out of the community because the counter would always be positive.

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#9 2016-08-26 03:11:49

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Re: remove rep

add down woots - not so muc hspam

require the user to have "points", where every time you receive a woot you get a point, and you can either use that point to -rep somebody or +rep somebudy.
^this will force the user to have a good idea/standing with the community before being allowed to -rep or +rep

heck since -rep is given out way more then +rep, why not make +rep plus 2, and -rep minus 1 or something?

keep rep but fix bullying

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#10 2016-08-26 03:17:26

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Re: remove rep

Are people still even using rep? I'm pretty sure it mostly died after the first week. I was always against it because I don't think it is necessary and leads to unnecessary hate.
Removing it would be nice.


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#11 2016-08-26 03:24:57

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Re: remove rep

I admit it probably has fallen into disuse. I don't particularly care what comes of it, though I appreciate its addition as an effort put into the forums.

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#12 2016-08-26 06:25:06

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Re: remove rep

Oh no rep's gone.

I mean technically it's just hiding but.

Oh no it's gone.


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#13 2016-08-26 10:34:29

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Re: remove rep

So are you going to add woot counter now, Different?

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#14 2016-08-26 11:06:36, last edited by MartenM (2016-08-26 11:39:25)

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Re: remove rep

Or just remove the - button. Fixes the harassment.

Idk why -rep ever was a thing one this forum.


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#15 2016-08-26 11:58:22

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Re: remove rep

I would rather like a woot counter bellow my profile which keeps tracks on all the woots my posts gained.


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#16 2016-08-26 12:04:07, last edited by TaskManager (2016-08-26 12:04:22)

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Re: remove rep

Zumza wrote:

I would rather like a woot counter bellow my profile which keeps tracks on all the woots my posts gained.

pls no
we have enough woot farming already


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#17 2016-08-26 13:42:20

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Re: remove rep

Different55 wrote:

I mean technically it's just hiding but.

*darts to reputation.php*

aww "rep system currently disabled"

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#18 2016-08-26 13:58:24

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Re: remove rep

I'm genuinely curious what do people on forums prefer to have. Reputation system, woot counter or neither.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11083717

Please answer...

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#19 2016-08-26 14:22:39

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Re: remove rep

I'd rather have neither, less chance for people to post just to get a higher/better number.

Woot counter is pretty useless, unless you include more statistics with it, like woot/posts, most wooted post, could also include posts that yourself woooted also. I know diff had a page that had the most wooted post thing, don't know if it did anything else though. A single number is useless and doesn't benefit to anything at all.

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#20 2016-08-26 14:25:21, last edited by hummerz5 (2016-08-28 00:05:50)

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Re: remove rep

^ Woots/posts, The Bruce would probably still win. see here

I might be getting another data dump, post some updated info like that... edit: maybe we don't need this data atm

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#21 2016-08-26 14:31:58

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Re: remove rep

A woot counter could be fun.

Negative rep rarely is used for anything but jokes and the like.


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#22 2016-08-26 14:33:59

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Re: remove rep

rgl32 wrote:

I'd rather have neither, less chance for people to post just to get a higher/better number.

Woot counter is pretty useless, unless you include more statistics with it, like woot/posts, most wooted post, could also include posts that yourself woooted also. I know diff had a page that had the most wooted post thing, don't know if it did anything else though. A single number is useless and doesn't benefit to anything at all.

I think woots are more relevant to what you read, as the rating only exists on that post and isn't noted elsewhere; they also can't be used for direct harassment and you don't need to write to say "I like what you have said".


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#23 2016-08-26 14:34:41

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Re: remove rep

Yandax wrote:

A woot counter could be fun.

Negative rep rarely is used for anything but jokes and the like.

Keep woots relevant and not have a counter.


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#24 2016-08-26 14:37:31

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Re: remove rep

Koya wrote:
Yandax wrote:

A woot counter could be fun.

Negative rep rarely is used for anything but jokes and the like.

Keep woots relevant and not have a counter.

Yeah I didn't realize that the relevance might fade.

But please keep in mind that I said fun, not useful.


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#25 2016-08-26 14:46:42

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Re: remove rep

rgl32 wrote:

I'd rather have neither, less chance for people to post just to get a higher/better number.

The rep system and woots are similar in that way: people are gonna post more with sarcastic and "trying-to-be funny" posts in an attempt to get woots and +rep.
I think that is the very big flaw in both systems... But. We already have woots, so would a woot counter change the situation a lot?

How about let's just try both options and see how it goes? I mean we already had the reputation system and it didn't turned out good. Let's try woot counter and see how it goes? :/

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