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#1 2015-11-08 20:31:58

mrjawapa
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Trolling and Spam Reports

First off: TROLLING IS NOT AGAINST THE RULES!!! STOP REPORTING IT!!!
Unless a user is drawing inappropriate material, there is nothing we are going to do.  If it's your world, then you have all the power you need to prevent it.  Remove their edit, kick them, or change the world code.

Key spamming: Not against the rules, STOP REPORTING IT!!!
It's the world creators fault if someone can spam keys, and prevent users from playing.  We're not banning for that.

For the love of everything good and pure on this planet, STOP TRYING TO PM PEOPLE THROUGH REPORTS!!!  It kills me inside when I see this.

The amount of spam reports is ridiculous, they wash out all of the legit reports.  Bans are being issued for nearly every spam report sent in.


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#2 2015-11-08 20:37:30

Schlog
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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Dude you already said that spam reports would get you a game ban here
I don't why people don't understand what reporting is really for...

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#3 2015-11-08 20:38:45, last edited by Anak (2015-11-08 20:38:52)

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Put this on the blog or something, it's not really that useful just here.

#4 2015-11-08 20:45:24

Creature
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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Is JaWapa drunk or he simply didn't realise EE noobs won't read this topic?


This is a false statement.

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#5 2015-11-08 20:46:40

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

This should appear in the lobby every so often and be followed by a mandatory reading comprehension quiz.
If you fail it, you cannot use /report.


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#6 2015-11-08 20:51:49

Abelysk
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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Ok. I don't get why we shouldn't report cheaters (who use hacked clients)...

What if a cheater has the code? What if a cheater keeps on hacking edit and you have no power? What if Meredith comes in and steals the world for herself? We shouldn't report it?! I never understood why we shouldn't report cheaters. It should be strictly against the rules since it violates game mechanics through exploitation.

#7 2015-11-08 21:00:56, last edited by Zumza (2015-11-08 21:01:59)

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Jawapa whats the point of posting this to forum?
Did a user registered to this forum spared EE report system? I don't believe that...


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#8 2015-11-08 21:14:48

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

You're mod.

Deal with it.

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#9 2015-11-08 21:17:10

Different55
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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

AmdS wrote:

You're mod.

Deal with it.

They are.

They're banning anyone and everyone who submits false reports like this. The topic is trying to prevent any more of that because it's a crappy reason to have to ban someone.


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#10 2015-11-08 21:19:25

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Itsmeandersonlol wrote:

Ok. I don't get why we shouldn't report cheaters (who use hacked clients)...

What if a cheater has the code? What if a cheater keeps on hacking edit and you have no power? What if Meredith comes in and steals the world for herself? We shouldn't report it?! I never understood why we shouldn't report cheaters. It should be strictly against the rules since it violates game mechanics through exploitation.

Because the report system does not collect proof that a player was hacking/cheating, we won't do anything without proof


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#11 2015-11-08 21:21:06

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Different55 wrote:
AmdS wrote:

You're mod.

Deal with it.

They are.

They're banning anyone and everyone who submits false reports like this. The topic is trying to prevent any more of that because it's a crappy reason to have to ban someone.

But you really think that ee noobs don't look at this forum? Would some admin add something to the EE game saying something like this?

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#12 2015-11-08 21:23:48

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Why isn't there a warning dialogue box that pops up asking if people really want to submit the report and informs of the consequences of submitting false or spam reports?


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#13 2015-11-08 21:26:11

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

u couldve just sent an alert since noobs wont be on the forums too much ;D


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#14 2015-11-08 21:27:25

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

BuzzerBee wrote:

Why isn't there a warning dialogue box that pops up asking if people really want to submit the report and informs of the consequences of submitting false or spam reports?

oh, you mean like this?

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#15 2015-11-08 22:12:33, last edited by Master1 (2015-11-08 22:12:48)

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

I would also like to add onto this and say, do not report people for swearing UNLESS they are dodging the censors. Getting so sick of seeing reports for swearing.

Each day when I check the reports it basically looks like this:
5% - Good legit reports. (Ex. Spamming, Inappropriate usernames, Censor evasion, Inappropriate links, etc.)
20% - Reports on swearing. (Does not include censor dodging)
20% - Reports where people are trying to PM each other.
25% - Reports on "Hacking"
30% - Reports on trolling.
Pretty sad in my opinion.

(Note: This could be slightly off as I'm not actually doing any math, but I'd say it's a very close estimate.)


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#16 2015-11-08 22:16:23

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

If people doesn't want trolls, then don't share the code, or use a bot for it.

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#17 2015-11-08 22:19:05

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

I'm going to be putting this on the blog, and making a new pop up.  Something came up right after I posted this and I didn't have the time.


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#18 2015-11-08 22:19:30

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Master1 wrote:

I would also like to add onto this and say, do not report people for swearing UNLESS they are dodging the censors. Getting so sick of seeing reports for swearing.

Each day when I check the reports it basically looks like this:
5% - Good legit reports. (Ex. Spamming, Inappropriate usernames, Censor evasion, Inappropriate links, etc.)
20% - Reports on swearing. (Does not include censor dodging)
20% - Reports where people are trying to PM each other.
25% - Reports on "Hacking"
30% - Reports on trolling.
Pretty sad in my opinion.

(Note: This could be slightly off as I'm not actually doing any math, but I'd say it's a very close estimate.)

yeah people are just noob these days
anyways, post it in the news


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#19 2015-11-08 23:00:34

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Give the people only certain options of the following pattern to choose, when they report.
Also make some of the options so, that the report will actually never come to you.
Reveal in the forum which report topics will be sent to you and which are fake and will be deleted by the system.

Fake report topics:
- trolling
- spamming
- no edit
- hax

real report topics, that will be sent to you:
- inappropriate behaviour (actually means really hardcore and report worthy behaviour)
- improbable movements (means real hacking)
- ...
- ...


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#20 2015-11-08 23:02:26

Schlog
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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

You could make a report window when /report is typed in chat that displays all real offensive and some fake ones that you receive spam reports for. Add like a timer or something so they have to wait x seconds until they can proceed with the report maybe

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#21 2015-11-08 23:52:37

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Ok, something on the blog is posted talking about it. Let take care for reading it now

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#22 2015-11-09 00:27:18, last edited by Onjit (2015-11-09 00:28:14)

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

There's a game I used to play regularly, WarLight, that has a pretty good warning system.

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They give the player a drop down menu, from which they give many offences.

Most of these are not valid, such as "they broke a truce", but these are likely to be chosen by players that don't know what to report. After clicking one of these 'invalid' options, this shows:

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This explains the situation nicely to the player, and doesn't add a useless warning to the queue.



I think something similar could be implemented into EE, with all of the options listed in the blog post.


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#23 2015-11-09 00:57:05

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

AmdS wrote:
Different55 wrote:
AmdS wrote:

You're mod.

Deal with it.

They are.

They're banning anyone and everyone who submits false reports like this. The topic is trying to prevent any more of that because it's a crappy reason to have to ban someone.

But you really think that ee noobs don't look at this forum? Would some admin add something to the EE game saying something like this?

I said they were doing something about it, not succeeding at doing something about it. //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue


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#24 2015-11-09 02:30:18

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

@Onjit - we intend to do something similar.


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#25 2015-11-09 15:46:55

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Re: Trolling and Spam Reports

Key spamming gets people banned from Everybody Edits. It is a fact.


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