Feedback and brainstorming: The Block Bar

BuzzerBee · 2015-09-30 13:55:48

Here's an idea, I don't think it's the best because if we got to an insane amount of block placks in EE it wouldn't really work, but what about expandable block packs? Or what about clicking on a block to change the color/type you want (for example, in the basic pack, you could click on the grey block and then it would change to blue, red, green, etc

skullz17 · 2015-09-30 16:52:53

The thing with a lot of these ideas is that they involve making things compact by categorising things or tucking them away. But I much prefer to see all the blocks at once, which is why I like spinastar's idea, even though it doesn't make it that much smaller. But like I said, I'm mostly fine with the way it is.

The problem is obviously that the block bar is too big and obstructs your view of the game. However, the only time I have the block bar open for a long time is when I'm placing things with IDs or some sort of input (such as portals, switches, music blocks, etc). So if you could do all of that stuff from the hotbar, that would be perfect for me.

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Minimania · 2015-09-30 20:19:19

I'd like to use this thread now to ask for a seperate tab for one way blocks, please.

(Also please let us rotate previously existing one ways)

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SmittyW · 2015-10-01 17:16:24

I can't wait.

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Nou · 2015-10-01 17:38:22

skullz17 wrote:

The thing with a lot of these ideas is that they involve making things compact by categorising things or tucking them away. But I much prefer to see all the blocks at once, which is why I like spinastar's idea, even though it doesn't make it that much smaller. But like I said, I'm mostly fine with the way it is.
The problem is obviously that the block bar is too big and obstructs your view of the game. However, the only time I have the block bar open for a long time is when I'm placing things with IDs or some sort of input (such as portals, switches, music blocks, etc). So if you could do all of that stuff from the hotbar, that would be perfect for me.

This is true, but keep in mind the amount of blocks will keep expanding so some futureproofing would also help.

Liking the feedback/suggestions/designs so far guys, keep it coming.

Swarth100

skullz17 · 2015-10-01 17:41:07

Well my point was that I wouldn't care if the block bar even filled the whole screen, because I barely have it open (or I would if I could input IDs and stuff from the hotbar).

Most of these ideas don't really suit me so I can't say much, but please consider Tomkazaz' fullscreen idea that he posted a while ago, because if something is added to make the block bar smaller I think that would be my favourite.

SmittyW · 2015-10-01 17:44:38

skullz17 wrote:

...the only time I have the block bar open for a long time is when I'm placing things with IDs or some sort of input (such as portals, switches, music blocks, etc). So if you could do all of that stuff from the hotbar, that would be perfect for me...

This needs to be added.

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Michele · 2015-10-01 17:45:47

I love the style 1.

SilverStar · 2015-10-15 18:28:36

So is the final solution this lock bar?

(I hope not.)

some woman

Nou · 2015-10-15 18:48:59

SilverStar wrote:

So is the final solution this lock bar?
(I hope not.)

Not at all. This doesn't solve the initial issue presented in the OP. This lock bar is actually separate from all this.

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Thanel · 2015-10-15 18:49:21

SilverStar wrote:

So is the final solution this lock bar?
(I hope not.)

No it's just temporary addition. We still need to find best solution and implement it.

Edit: Nou beat me

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skullz17 · 2015-10-15 20:22:59

It actually used to be in the game some time ago, then it was removed, and now it's back again.

shadowda · 2015-10-15 20:43:39

i really like three. it looks ee and you can chose which menu you want with out scrolling one to the next. meaning you would not have to go through page 2 to get to 3 if there was a page three 3. maybe make it so the tabs only appear when you hover over it.

Number two seems alright but a bit ugly if i do say so. its themed with the tabs but its boring

Number one seems the most practical but clicking an arrow to go between one long row of items just seems boring and i know i wouldn't want to click through page after page to fine something. its a simple design and i like that more that number two's larger more themed design.

Number fore takes up to much space and it just does not look good the way it is not connected.

The u shape is down right hideous, and you have to turn your head to look at it.

Maybe if all else fails make it a setting in the lobby how a player wants it. if that does not take up to much resources.

Pingohits

Badoosh · 2015-10-16 22:16:18

▼New Interface Design

▼Go To Lobby

▼Settings

▼Level Code Disabled

▼Likes

▼Smileys Tab

▼Auras Tab

▼Blocks Tab

▼Campaign

▼Modify Level

Some of the reasons behind the changes I made and other details:

▼Read Me (Warning, kinda long)

Go To Lobby:
A popup asks players if they really meant to click go to lobby. If you don't feel like clicking twice in a game about clicking, you can disable it in the lobby.
It is now colored red not only to match the new style interface from the rest of the game, but to stand out from the rest of the buttons.

Settings:
This popup puts level settings the player controls under one popup, whether to play without volume or in full screen.

Chat:
Nothing really changed here, but it doesn't get between the smiley and aura and block selectors anymore.

Smiley Hotbar and Selector:
The smiley tab was getting a bit tall, so it was reorganized to act like the blocks tab.
With it getting dangerously close to covering your smiley, page numbers were added.
To counter this, a smiley hotbar was created, ensuring that you can switch between your 3 favorite smileys with ease.
The smileys are now spaced in the selection so that beards do not overlap onto hats.

God Mode and Aura Selector:
Instead of having an aura selector on the right side of the smileys, and god mode all the way on the left of the smileys, it was condensed into one button.
Clicking on the aura symbol will turn god mode on, and clicking the upwards arrow opens the aura selector.
The aura selector is larger than the current one, but allows the addition of more auras in the long term. (who wants to cycle through 40 auras using left/right arrows?)

Enter Level Code:
The bar is now smaller to fit the rest of the buttons in with ease. Nobody has a "code is 213456754567545646754566435346" level anyways.
Levels that are meant to be played can disable level codes entirely in level options.

Campaign Bar:
The current campaign information was too large to fit onto this quickbar, but with a small popup to give more info this problem is averted.

Edit Bar:
The numbers now appear under the blocks so that they are more legible, at the expense of the old "Level Bricks" line above which was rather obvious and expendable.
The block tab uses page numbers to find a specific pack on a page you know where it is, and the side arrows for builders casually looking through their blocks to find one that works best for an area.
The blocks don't have the names written above anymore, because it was a waste of space (look between Halloween 2011, summer 2011, etc.). Instead the pack name appears when it is hovered over.

Liking and Favoriting:
They are stacked on top of each other to match the other popups (settings/go to lobby)
The button is wider so that the modify level button can replace it without anything shifting.

Modify Level:
The button is green, as it is an important button for level owners and draws their attention to it. It also complements the "Go to Lobby" button and matches the rest of the game's interface.
Modifying a level is now a single organized window instead of a tall tab and more options leading to a big block of unorganized info.

Share Level:
It's been moved to the right as a double purpose:
1. It's next to liking/favoriting a level, so players use it to share levels they like
2. It's next to modify level, so level owners can share the levels they make
Also it was reverted to text, because the old symbol could have been interpreted for anything between another fullscreen button or opening EE in another window (It's a box with an arrow in it).

Toggle Minimap:
The compass icon is the same as the one in the lobby.
It now has text to draw attention to it and give a name to its function instead of being a minor button like the settings one.

These are the basic reasons for the new design, but there may be perks that I didn't consider that you could find helpful

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Gosha · 2015-10-16 22:30:12

Badoosh, i dont like it. Interface looks fine .
we just need tool bar
and i think Spinastar suggested the best way how to do it
For me, it looks very fine and it is very easy to remember there each block are situated

EDIT: + saves a lot of space

Swarth100, TaskManager

AmdS · 2015-10-16 22:32:20

I like style 3 more. Maybe add a setting people can choose what style to use.

skullz17 · 2015-10-16 22:41:40

I don't think fully black should be secret, there's nothing secret about it. It's just transparent on the minimap.

TaskManager · 2015-10-16 22:47:04

The blockbars with pages are kinda bad idea, would require you a lot of clicks to find some block that you need but I like the first design (arrows on the sides).
IMO the best way to make it simple would be turning current block bar into a "full palette" menu (which would be a separate window?) and putting in it's place a new block bar with up to 10 (or more) setups/tabs (named 1 2 3 and so on, thus the tab buttons will take tiny amount of space) that the players will make themselves from the items (as in bricks + action things + decorations + backgrounds) they have and it saves forever (and can be edited anytime).

EDIT: Another idea that came to my mind when I saw goshanoob's post, this one is for the blocks only: Making a "quick block maker" for the simple colors blocks. You select block texture (basic, bricks, glass, mineral, beta, checkers, plastic, magic etc.) and color and it finds the block you need. Of course it won't work with unique looking blocks, such as environment or medieval packs.

Badoosh · 2015-10-16 22:49:47

skullz17 wrote:

I don't think fully black should be secret, there's nothing secret about it. It's just transparent on the minimap.

I understand that, but there is an anti block of it. To me, it's very much like a door and gate in block form.

OINX · 2015-10-16 22:56:55

SmittyW. wrote:

I can't wait.

Exactly what I imagined. This suggestion
+ the ability to drag and swap a package by clicking on a package name, drag it over another pack and let go of the click.
If the package is on the next page, drag that package over one of the arrows on the side to get to the next page. Want to get to the page after that? Then keep holding the pack with your mouse over the arrow and after a 1 sec delay it will again go to the next page.

Btw, I wonder what you meant with that loading symbol. I don't think it will load at all.

shadowda · 2015-10-17 15:25:55

Badoosh. i don't like it. the lay out you suggested changes what we already have considerably and that will confuse people.

Koya · 2015-10-17 17:58:00

I want to be able to select the blocks that I need, for instance I rarely need every single block - I want to be able to select for instance

• Basic
• Beta
• Stone
• Prison
• Pirate
• Marble
• Gravity
• Effect
• Sign
• Clay

The block box will be as small as it has to be to fit in only those block packs

Nou · 2015-10-28 23:25:03

After reading the thread and collecting feedback I think I've come up with the ideal compromise:

http://i.imgur.com/tWs6aZD.png (too large to fit here so click it).

The designs aren't final, I'm just looking for more feedback.

- You get to choose your own style: Classic, Compact, or Ultra Compact.

- Each style gets the additional features.

- One-ways will be moved to the Action tab.

Initially I liked the sidebar design, but considering its lack of futureproofing, I decided against it.

Two questions:

1: What do you guys think if the proposed designs/features?
2: For the custom tab (not yet in preview), how should you get blocks to the custom tab, making it as user-friendly as possible?

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Bimps · 2015-10-28 23:27:40

in the words of a little mexican girl

or in this case all
btw get ninja'd son

SirJosh3917

Terrasher · 2015-10-28 23:36:46

Classic or compact.

What I don't want is only being able to see a single block of a whole pack and having to hover over that block to see the rest.

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