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#26 2015-07-20 16:36:51

Era
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

Any bot that's public could be misused in almost every way.

That's because good bots dont get released publicly, you know bots that check if its thier world and disconnect if it is not?
And nobody gives a **** about your motives when creating the bot. you created a bot which can be missused to troll , which is your fault. yet instead of fixing it you sit here trying to defend yourself.

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#27 2015-07-20 16:41:00, last edited by SirJosh3917 (2015-07-20 16:41:12)

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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Era wrote:
ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

Any bot that's public could be misused in almost every way.

That's because good bots dont get released publicly, you know bots that check if its thier world and disconnect if it is not?
And nobody gives a poop about your motives when creating the bot. you created a bot which can be missused to troll , which is your fault. yet instead of fixing it you sit here trying to defend yourself.

Any bot can :v, and almost any bot will in its time.
Let's just stop, this is going no where, and this is going off topic. Agree? If you want the final say, fine with me.

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#28 2015-07-20 16:42:45, last edited by Era (2015-07-20 16:42:55)

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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

Any bot can :v, and almost any bot will in its time.

I disagree with this premise , you have no evidence to back it up.

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#29 2015-07-20 17:05:29

Kirby
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:
Era wrote:
ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

I feel... offended... whats wrong with it? Well, it has had a bad past history, but thats only because the users of the bot are bad, not because I am, but because the user was... I didn't create it to troll, look at the atomic bomb!

You are responsible for the trolling & grieifing done by your bot , it is your fault that it can be missused in that way.

So? I still didn't create it to troll, that's not the reason it was created. Any bot that's public could be misused in almost every way.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=28900

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#30 2015-07-20 18:04:43

Gooberg
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:
Era wrote:
ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

I feel... offended... whats wrong with it? Well, it has had a bad past history, but thats only because the users of the bot are bad, not because I am, but because the user was... I didn't create it to troll, look at the atomic bomb!

You are responsible for the trolling & grieifing done by your bot , it is your fault that it can be missused in that way.

So? I still didn't create it to troll, that's not the reason it was created. Any bot that's public could be misused in almost every way.

It is still your doing that allows the players to troll in that way, try making it a bit more troll-proof.


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#31 2015-07-20 18:48:49

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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

<snip> Any bot that's public could be misused in almost every way.

Then why make public bots? Once everyone has them, they are not cool anymore.


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#32 2015-07-20 23:51:44

Sam777
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From: Canada
Joined: 2015-07-17
Posts: 83

Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

JaWapa wrote:

Okay, so you are talking about spam... not trolling.  Gotcha.

No, I'm talking about trolling. They simply kept using bots to reconnect when I kicked them.

Gooberg wrote:

The request for someone to make a bot, is worthless because Sam could have just not given them edit.

Not in Code=____ worlds. And don't say change the code cus I'm not going to do that.

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#33 2015-07-21 13:44:59

capasha
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Sam777 wrote:
JaWapa wrote:

Okay, so you are talking about spam... not trolling.  Gotcha.

No, I'm talking about trolling. They simply kept using bots to reconnect when I kicked them.

Gooberg wrote:

The request for someone to make a bot, is worthless because Sam could have just not given them edit.

Not in Code=____ worlds. And don't say change the code cus I'm not going to do that.

It's simple. Don't give out code, don't give unknown people edit access.
It feels like you guys that give out code or give edit access want to be trolled. Just so you guys can cry on the forums about it.

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#34 2015-07-21 15:29:19

Gooberg
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Sam777 wrote:

Not in Code=____ worlds. And don't say change the code cus I'm not going to do that.

I am not asking you to change the code, I am asking you to not make Code = ____ worlds.  Those worlds are pretty dissapointing. (imo <--- Now ya can't argue with me about it :3)


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#35 2015-07-21 19:06:32

Xfrogman43
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Gooberg wrote:
Sam777 wrote:

Not in Code=____ worlds. And don't say change the code cus I'm not going to do that.

I am not asking you to change the code, I am asking you to not make Code = ____ worlds.  Those worlds are pretty dissapointing. (imo <--- Now ya can't argue with me about it :3)

People can make whatever worlds they want.

capasha wrote:

It's simple. Don't give out code, don't give unknown people edit access.
It feels like you guys that give out code or give edit access want to be trolled. Just so you guys can cry on the forums about it.


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#36 2015-07-22 01:52:20

Gooberg
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

People can make whatever worlds they want.

Then if he can create whatever world he wants, and do whatever he wants, then I would love him to stop complaining about how he wants someone to create a 100% useless bot.


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#37 2015-07-22 02:32:21

capasha
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

I heard you likes IP's so I post some EE IP's here.
JYqK4WQ.png I have more if you want.

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#38 2015-07-22 19:46:44

Sam777
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

capasha wrote:

Just so you guys can cry on the forums about it.

yeah cus im totally crying right now. -_-

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#39 2015-07-22 20:51:14

lrussell
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

capasha wrote:

I heard you likes IP's so I post some EE IP's here.
JYqK4WQ.png I have more if you want.

If you obtained those IPs in the way I think you did, they're extremely outdated and very few users have them.

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#40 2015-07-22 21:06:40, last edited by Mylo (2015-07-22 21:06:58)

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Joined: 2015-02-15
Posts: 829

Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Why not give us ip-bans though? (and maybe a longer / flexible ban time)
There is clearly a need for it by some users?
Also I bought the world - and I pseudo own it,
why am I not allowed to control who gets in it?

Imagine there is a person I don't like, because he just stole my girlfriend.
I don't wan't him in my level, but still I need to kick him every 5 min.
Such a waste of time and energy for that //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad one.

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#41 2015-07-22 22:21:17

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Posts: 4,174

Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Mylo wrote:

Why not give us ip-bans though? (and maybe a longer / flexible ban time)

People can change their IP's.
Somebody else might get a banned IP, even though they weren't the original owner.


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#42 2015-07-22 22:35:53

Mylo
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Xfrogman43 wrote:

[...]
People can change their IP's.
Somebody else might get a banned IP, even though they weren't the original owner.

That's not a reason why it shouldn't be implemented.
People can circumvent a standard ban, too - and it's still there.
The user get's what he wants. An IP-ban. Also things like these could be solved with cookies & an activation email.

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#43 2015-07-22 22:36:32

Xfrogman43
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Posts: 4,174

Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Mylo wrote:
Xfrogman43 wrote:

[...]
People can change their IP's.
Somebody else might get a banned IP, even though they weren't the original owner.

That's not a reason why it shouldn't be implemented.
People can circumvent a standard ban, too - and it's still there.
The user get's what he wants. An IP-ban. Also things like these could be solved with cookies & an activation email.

Maybe they will add this in the next update.


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#44 2015-07-22 22:48:45

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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

The users account age should be easily accessible, so that super new users can be identified. For example, having a user that was "created 5 minutes ago" and is asking for edit, probably shouldn't be given edit. This prevents users from just creating accounts mindlessly to troll someone else.

Mylo wrote:

The user get's what he wants. An IP-ban. Also things like these could be solved with cookies & an activation email.

This is a really good idea, and an activation email + skill testing question is the minimal for security/spam purposes. I'm not sure why this hasn't been implemented yet.

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#45 2015-07-23 01:41:06

eeisol
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Joined: 2015-07-21
Posts: 27

Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Basic information that we've had come into grasp and pass seem to be the dominant ideas here.
PlayerObjects show(ed?) the IP address. Users could choose to ban on that. Player levels gave a good indication of their dedication to EE.

Hexagon, I would see your account age and raise you a max energy level. (Or some way to determine how much they PLAY, not how long ago the alt (cough) was created)

I also agree with the IP ban. If there is a backfire, that's an issue for the world owner. Your problem is simply education and implementing. If bans become a problem, they can take action. Otherwise, they're good to go. (People can be dumb, but properly motivated, they can figure some things out.)

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#46 2015-07-23 16:29:20

Sam777
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Mylo wrote:

I don't want him in my level, but still I need to kick him every 5 min.

Off topic: I thought it was 10 mins?

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#47 2015-07-23 17:36:07

Gooberg
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Posts: 81

Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Sam777 wrote:
Mylo wrote:

I don't want him in my level, but still I need to kick him every 5 min.

Off topic: I thought it was 10 mins?

It's 5


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#48 2015-07-23 18:13:06

mrjawapa
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

Again, if you don't want someone to troll your world, DO NOT GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO EDIT.  If your world name is "code is 1234123", whatever, and someone comes in ruins all the hard work you put into your stairs... that's your fault.  We're not going to give people the ability to indefinitely boot someone, especially since the easiest solution is right in front of them.

We have a /giveedit command, so use it to give those who you trust edit.  And don't even give me the line of, "I don't want to /giveedit username 20 people".  Your other option is to get a bot to protect against trolling, but that isn't exactly full proof.


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#49 2015-07-23 22:05:30

den3107
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

He's talking about that he doesn't want a person in his/her room.
A person can also troll by spamming the chat, hence we'd like methods to ban a person not just on something innocent like a username, where a user can easily create a new one.

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#50 2015-07-23 22:09:39

rgl32
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Re: I need someone to make me a bot.

den3107 wrote:

He's talking about that he doesn't want a person in his/her room.
A person can also troll by spamming the chat, hence we'd like methods to ban a person not just on something innocent like a username, where a user can easily create a new one.

I already mentioned that and it seems he means actually trolling by placing blocks as said here.

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