[Update] 12th of June - Block revamps and general streamlining

shadowda · 2015-06-12 22:54:45

I DONT LIKE CHANGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New packs are nice and all
but changing names, moveing blocks around, changing blocks. no

Sparta, Viking, mars, ect. Why?

skullz17 · 2015-06-12 23:07:54

Badoosh wrote:

skullz17 wrote:
Also pillars are transparent on the minimap now. I thought you were going to be different than the previous staff, but turns out you like to break maps too. Art maps using pillars will be ruined.
Here's one of the best parts of the update: it brings back the consistency that was destroyed by the older devs. Decorations were intended to be transparent until mrshoe threw in "exceptions." Lots of his backgrounds that got fixed were better as decorations, but mrshoe just loved exceptions. Exceptions destroy the clarity of a game. Honestly a few broken decoration minimap levels are better than a broken game.

I am not talking about pillar decorations. I am talking about the pillar one-ways, which used to have a nice grey colour which was close to white. I personally found this useful. This block has never been transparent, I'm pretty sure. I can't see any problem with it having a minimap colour, and I honestly don't understand why you changed that.

Mylo, kubapolish

Yandax · 2015-06-12 23:15:34

BuzzerBee wrote:

That cliffhanger tho

Stole the words right outta my mouth.

BuzzerBee

BEE · 2015-06-12 23:16:42

I am extremely upset about the change of the house from background to decos

this tiny change ruined an entire level concept of mine, and because I can't put decos on top of decos, it is irreparable.

Raon, kubapolish

Badoosh · 2015-06-12 23:25:10

skullz17 wrote:

I am not talking about pillar decorations. I am talking about the pillar one-ways, which used to have a nice grey colour which was close to white. I personally found this useful. This block has never been transparent, I'm pretty sure. I can't see any problem with it having a minimap colour, and I honestly don't understand why you changed that.

Okay. I had forgotten that there was a pillar block, having never referred to it by that name. I didn't notice that it had lost its color, though.

shadowda wrote:

I DONT LIKE CHANGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New packs are nice and all
but changing names, moveing blocks around, changing blocks. no
Sparta, Viking, mars, ect. Why?

Mrshoe threw a bunch of crap at EE to see what would stick, but all that did was cover the game in crap. If you don't want that to change you deserve watch the game slowly die while you get more block packages. I know you probably can't see the problems that were fixed (albeit damaging levels at its expense), but the 1000+ players that left the game and never came back did. Fix the problems that made them leave, and the game SHOULD be more appealing.

Overall, I think that these changes needed to happen. If the game is going to have a large influx of new players, give them something useful to work with, because most of the stuff that was changed was:
1. Only useable in one very specific way, such as cannon and pirate window (it's a sandbox game: this is bad!)
2. Contrasty: too much contrast in a flash game causes eye pain. Most people have stopped using those blocks or were part of the 1000 users who left.
3. Plain dumb. "Pirates had rubber floaties! OH yeah let's make it a background too!"
4. Depth problems. Who else couldn't tell whether the lava was a block or a background, same with sand? Lots of people, and for those who don't know: blocks have something called depth, backgrounds are flatter. That's how you can be CERTAIN if you are going to jump into a pit of spikes or land safe on a block. Less rage for newbies.

Pyromaniac, ZeldaXD, some woman, Nou

Jedpogi · 2015-06-13 02:07:58

are you serious? IP bans

Raon · 2015-06-13 02:39:13

My 2 cents on the bad parts:

1. Lifeguard donut from the pirate pack has been removed. Why?
2. Changing backgrounds into decorations literally ruined a ton of art levels because of the color gap left behind.
3. The white border on the japan letters is totally unnecessary. We can no longer make smooth transition effects with them (example: ying-yang on a pure black backround/pure white background).
4. Some blocks are way too blurry (example: industrial pack, prison mirrors, checker background, chains).
5. I kind of liked the old fire animation's color palette better. Maybe try having a mixture of two?

But apart from that most of the block revamps are amazing, and i like the new features too.

Miasmic, some woman

BEE · 2015-06-13 02:59:08

Raon wrote:

My 2 cents on the bad parts:
1. Lifeguard donut from the pirate pack has been removed. Why?
2. Changing backgrounds into decorations literally ruined a ton of art levels because of the color gap left behind.
3. The white border on the japan letters is totally unnecessary. We can no longer make smooth transition effects with them (example: ying-yang on a pure black backround/pure white background).
4. Some blocks are way too blurry (example: industrial pack, prison mirrors, checker background, chains).
5. I kind of liked the old fire animation's color palette better. Maybe try having a mixture of two?
But apart from that most of the block revamps are amazing, and i like the new features too.

1. It's a deco now
2. It shouldnt have, they were careful about replacing it with blocks that showed up very similarly on the minimap. Do you have an example or a broken art world?
3. Agreed, but I didnt use them much anyways
4. Agreed! but apparently we are in the minority here
5. Same

Mylo

Cola1 · 2015-06-13 03:03:32

Backgrounds with objects shouldn't have been turned into decorations for sure.

Aside from that.

*intense drooling*

EDIT: Now that the buttons in the "Outer Space" pack are giant, I can no longer use them as water drops.

Raon · 2015-06-13 03:11:17

BEE wrote:

Raon wrote:
My initial post

1. It's a deco now
2. It shouldnt have, they were careful about replacing it with blocks that showed up very similarly on the minimap. Do you have an example or a broken art world?
3. Agreed, but I didnt use them much anyways
4. Agreed! but apparently we are in the minority here
5. Same

1. Nope, check again, they missed that one.
2. Here you go The red circles on the minimap indicate zones that used the timber pack for a smooth shading, after the update the backgrounds got replaced automatically but the minimap colors got reduced to a total of 2... Unfortunately i can't find a *before* pic

Calicara · 2015-06-13 03:56:04

Well by the time I finally got on to give my two cents, it seems everyone has already gotten here before me. Basically like the others, not a fan of the new fire design. I'm also not a fan of the new trophy design. I liked having a giant trophy, it make me feel special. Now it's small and underwhelming. The only minor thing that bothered me was the lava blocks. I liked having them flat looking, it helped them blend better together.

I don't think I've made a ton of memorable maps where this update will really ruin anything, but I have to agree with Nou and the other admins on this. I really like the new gui, and while it has caused many setbacks for older map designers, I think it makes navigation in the edit bar much easier. Also this way in the future we can have more block variants and rotatable items to make better levels.

I also really like the clay pack, the simplicity of the industrial pack, and the option to have a color picker for backgrounds. I think this is the best update since effect blocks. Keep up the good work

EDIT: Almost forgot. While I like having rope as a climbable option, I am really underwhelmed by the design. Toop has made amazing graphics in the past, but the rope just seems mediocre to me. I hope that you are planning on updating that graphic.

BEE · 2015-06-13 04:43:53

Oh I completely misread your post Raon, I thought you meant the cannon "donut". You are right no more lifesaver :c

So accumulated list of removed blocks:
-BGs for timbered (timbered now as decos)
-Mars upsidedown ice cream cone and pillar
-Picture block from prison
-Small checkered bg from carnival (made "large" checkered for unknown reason)
-Nails on wood bg from pirate
-Two star types (though we gained three)
-Life saver

And I see about the art Raon, though it doesn't look *terrible* I see what you are saying.

Master1 · 2015-06-13 05:02:18

Calicara wrote:

I think this is the best update since effect blocks. Keep up the good work

This is the only update since effect blocks. (Other than bug fixes)

...Unless I'm stupid and forgot about something.

BuzzerBee

Moukdaboss · 2015-06-13 05:09:38

Master1 wrote:

Calicara wrote:
I think this is the best update since effect blocks. Keep up the good work
This is the only update since effect blocks. (Other than bug fixes)
...Unless I'm stupid and forgot about something.

Cave things

mrjawapa · 2015-06-13 05:20:14

Combining packs made things in the shop much simpler for new users. This will lower the time it takes to get everything, and provide fluctuation in the shop prices.

Tomorrow, I will go through and rearrange some stuff. For the most part, it shouldn't be too much of a change, and action blocks will probably stay the same.

kurtv13 · 2015-06-13 06:33:43

After the update, I received all the block packs I didn't have yet. Around 5 or 6 I think? THANKS!

EDIT: I really love you for removing that cuss filter!

BuzzerBee · 2015-06-13 06:40:57

My only complaint is fire. It looks great but does not fit the game at all. It's too detailed? Semi-realistic? You decide but it just doesn't look right.

N1KF, Xfrogman43, Onjit, skullz17, xJeex, tak4n, Napakeun, Muftwin, mrjawapa

Era · 2015-06-13 09:11:50

I love the new fire , its perfect for giving 32 a nice lil hell

2015-06-13 11:05:10

I didn't know of this update until now.

(Check edit date)

xen90 · 2015-06-13 12:53:08

Woah

kubapolish · 2015-06-13 13:09:49

The update is great, but:

- TURN BACK MEDIEVAL BG OR WHAT IS THIS FROM DECORATION YOU RUINED MY IDEA FOR MY LVL
- also turn back image bg from prison....
- fire hazard turn back
- turn back old lava blocks beacuse it looks odd when placed next to other lava block
- turn back old "outer space" bg blocks and decoration
- make cake and hologram into one group
- make desert into outer space, desert blocks looks more "space" than desert
- turn back medieval window block
- TURN back the old carnival checker bg

so i think its all.... plz fix dat or i leave from this game will be mad

Mylo, Raon, Jedpogi

Shadow · 2015-06-13 14:41:08

You guys removed the one of the pirate decor and it ruined my art level ...... srsly
Now i have to work on them again .

Edit: oh my GOD.. i just noticed its not just 1 level ..my 4 levels have been changed .
The update is nice and you guys worked hard but ....TY

Calicara · 2015-06-13 15:40:20

Master1 wrote:

Calicara wrote:
I think this is the best update since effect blocks. Keep up the good work
This is the only update since effect blocks. (Other than bug fixes)
...Unless I'm stupid and forgot about something.

Cave BG's, and the promotion of an unknown user to adminitrative powers (Thesource85), which I don't need to reiterate how I feel about that.

BEE · 2015-06-13 15:49:34

Kubapolish wrote:

The update is great, but:
- TURN BACK MEDIEVAL BG OR WHAT IS THIS FROM DECORATION YOU RUINED MY IDEA FOR MY LVL
- also turn back image bg from prison....
...
- turn back medieval window block
- TURN back the old carnival checker bg
so i think its all.... plz fix dat or i leave from this game will be mad

Can you link me to your level that used the Timbered bgs? I had a level that was affected as well.

Thanel · 2015-06-13 16:25:56

Could you please link me to affected worlds. I would like to see your creative uses of these blocks that no longer work.

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My 2 cents on the bad parts:

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My 2 cents on the bad parts:

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