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Jdizel619 · 2015-03-27 22:10:21

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Creature · 2015-03-27 22:26:51

C3-C6, my vocal range was lower than this.

Anak · 2015-03-27 22:41:17

Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)

skullz17 · 2015-03-27 22:51:30

Anak wrote:

Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)

It's still accurate because it will still be the same note.

Anak · 2015-03-27 23:00:06

skullz17 wrote:

Anak wrote:
Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)
It's still accurate because it will still be the same note.

I hope so, lmao! The fact that my voice is different gives me anxiety, like what will my singing sound like!

SPT · 2015-03-27 23:48:41

im so high right now

RavaTroll, Sensei1

tentacleTherapist · 2015-03-28 00:59:39

That is quite a bad method of finding your vocal range, using scales would be a better opinion.
Yeah Creature that cannot be right, C6 is incredibly difficult to hit, I am female (therefore higher vocal range) and sing as a hobby and I can only just hit top C. And C3-6 is quite a range as that is going into Alto.

Anch · 2015-03-28 15:39:12

I could make super high-pitched squeaky noises that some people can't even hear but its really hard (just squeaky noises I obviously can't talk like that)

skullz17 · 2015-03-28 16:02:52

Something like E3 - E5.

FDOOU · 2015-03-28 16:07:21

Anak wrote:

Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)

If that was true, choirs wouldn't be a thing.

Anak · 2015-03-28 16:12:25

FDOOU wrote:

Anak wrote:
Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)
If that was true, choirs wouldn't be a thing.

What do you mean? As Skullz said, it's still the same note. I also don't see why choirs wouldn't exist, because it's not like the difference is massive. If you've ever recorded yourself speaking or singing, you'll know that your voice sounds different, no matter the quality.

FDOOU · 2015-03-28 18:06:24

stupid, stupid, stupid

Creature · 2015-03-28 18:23:27

FDOOU wrote:

stupid, stupid, stupid

Let me understand: This is all you can sing?

Pingohits, Zumza

tentacleTherapist · 2015-03-28 18:33:31

FDOOU wrote:

Anak wrote:
Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)
If that was true, choirs wouldn't be a thing.

It is true, if you are going to be an undercooked chicken nugget at least make sure your facts are right. The voice you hear when you talk is a combination of the the vibrations in the hair between your mouth and ear outside the head and vibrations in your skull to your ear drums making it sound deeper, hence why you sound different when you record yourself and play it back. If you have a piano you would have a better job doing scales to see which notes you can and cannot hit rather than using that video.

Choirs are a thing because with very minimal amount of practice it is easy to tell what note you are actually singing at.

rubixguy · 2015-03-29 06:53:06

tentacleTherapist wrote:

FDOOU wrote:
Anak wrote:
Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)
If that was true, choirs wouldn't be a thing.
It is true, if you are going to be an undercooked chicken nugget at least make sure your facts are right. The voice you hear when you talk is a combination of the the vibrations in the hair between your mouth and ear outside the head and vibrations in your skull to your ear drums making it sound deeper, hence why you sound different when you record yourself and play it back. If you have a piano you would have a better job doing scales to see which notes you can and cannot hit rather than using that video.
Choirs are a thing because with very minimal amount of practice it is easy to tell what note you are actually singing at.

I find this explanation all over the internet, and its highly quoted by people in general, but I'm finding it hard to find actual facts to back it up. If I understand it correctly, the deeper quality in your voice is supposedly caused by an enhancement of low-frequency notes resonating in your body which your own ear easily detects, but other people and recording devices won't pick this up. This implies that there should be some low-resonant objects within your body. I would think that these low-frequency resonators should be fairly close to the ear. But, what I've found so far seem to suggest that the human head (and everything inside it) is resonating at the higher frequencies (in the B5 to G7 range). Larger things tend to resonate at lower frequencies. The skull is the largest thing in the head I can think of but its lowest resonance that I could find here hits around a B5. I did however find some research that suggests that the vertebrae can resonate as some low frequencies.

But I don't find this convincing enough to say that this is the reason for our voices to sound deeper to ourselves. It does explain why it would sound different, but not deeper. Anything I try to look up only leads me to believe that we should be hearing ourselves with higher pitched tones mixed in. However, from experience, I know that my voice sounds deeper to me as I'm talking, versus hearing my own recording. I even tried to find out which frequencies travel better through air, to see if maybe lower frequencies tended to dampen faster than higher sounds, but turns out, the opposite is true. Can anyone here give me something conclusive (or nearly so) that can explain this phenomenon?

Sensei1 · 2015-03-29 13:26:13

I'd be a baritone

skullz17 · 2015-03-29 21:18:55

rubixguy wrote:

tentacleTherapist wrote:
FDOOU wrote:
Anak wrote:
Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)
If that was true, choirs wouldn't be a thing.
It is true, if you are going to be an undercooked chicken nugget at least make sure your facts are right. The voice you hear when you talk is a combination of the the vibrations in the hair between your mouth and ear outside the head and vibrations in your skull to your ear drums making it sound deeper, hence why you sound different when you record yourself and play it back. If you have a piano you would have a better job doing scales to see which notes you can and cannot hit rather than using that video.
Choirs are a thing because with very minimal amount of practice it is easy to tell what note you are actually singing at.
I find this explanation all over the internet, and its highly quoted by people in general, but I'm finding it hard to find actual facts to back it up. If I understand it correctly, the deeper quality in your voice is supposedly caused by an enhancement of low-frequency notes resonating in your body which your own ear easily detects, but other people and recording devices won't pick this up. This implies that there should be some low-resonant objects within your body. I would think that these low-frequency resonators should be fairly close to the ear. But, what I've found so far seem to suggest that the human head (and everything inside it) is resonating at the higher frequencies (in the B5 to G7 range). Larger things tend to resonate at lower frequencies. The skull is the largest thing in the head I can think of but its lowest resonance that I could find here hits around a B5. I did however find some research that suggests that the vertebrae can resonate as some low frequencies.
But I don't find this convincing enough to say that this is the reason for our voices to sound deeper to ourselves. It does explain why it would sound different, but not deeper. Anything I try to look up only leads me to believe that we should be hearing ourselves with higher pitched tones mixed in. However, from experience, I know that my voice sounds deeper to me as I'm talking, versus hearing my own recording. I even tried to find out which frequencies travel better through air, to see if maybe lower frequencies tended to dampen faster than higher sounds, but turns out, the opposite is true. Can anyone here give me something conclusive (or nearly so) that can explain this phenomenon?

I think resonance is something different.

BuzzerBee · 2015-03-29 22:34:55

Yay choir nerds!
I'm a Bass I and on a normal day my lowest note is an F2 but with training I've gotten down to a C2 but that was temporary. My falsetto is impressive I'd say, as I can sing an E6 confidently. My comfortable range would probably be G2-D6

Best: C2-F6.
Average day: F2-E6
Most comfortable: G2-D6

Sybil · 2015-03-29 22:37:07

Thought this was about limbo.

rubixguy · 2015-03-30 07:18:44

skullz17 wrote:

rubixguy wrote:
tentacleTherapist wrote:
FDOOU wrote:
Anak wrote:
Isn't your voice actually different than to how it sounds to yourself? Since you're hearing your own voice through your bones, rather than through air and then into your ear and etc. I know that my voice is actually deeper than it sounds to me.
That said, I can go pretty deep, and I guess sort of high as well. I'm not really able to get my range right now though. (From that video at least)
If that was true, choirs wouldn't be a thing.
It is true, if you are going to be an undercooked chicken nugget at least make sure your facts are right. The voice you hear when you talk is a combination of the the vibrations in the hair between your mouth and ear outside the head and vibrations in your skull to your ear drums making it sound deeper, hence why you sound different when you record yourself and play it back. If you have a piano you would have a better job doing scales to see which notes you can and cannot hit rather than using that video.
Choirs are a thing because with very minimal amount of practice it is easy to tell what note you are actually singing at.
I find this explanation all over the internet, and its highly quoted by people in general, but I'm finding it hard to find actual facts to back it up. If I understand it correctly, the deeper quality in your voice is supposedly caused by an enhancement of low-frequency notes resonating in your body which your own ear easily detects, but other people and recording devices won't pick this up. This implies that there should be some low-resonant objects within your body. I would think that these low-frequency resonators should be fairly close to the ear. But, what I've found so far seem to suggest that the human head (and everything inside it) is resonating at the higher frequencies (in the B5 to G7 range). Larger things tend to resonate at lower frequencies. The skull is the largest thing in the head I can think of but its lowest resonance that I could find here hits around a B5. I did however find some research that suggests that the vertebrae can resonate as some low frequencies.
But I don't find this convincing enough to say that this is the reason for our voices to sound deeper to ourselves. It does explain why it would sound different, but not deeper. Anything I try to look up only leads me to believe that we should be hearing ourselves with higher pitched tones mixed in. However, from experience, I know that my voice sounds deeper to me as I'm talking, versus hearing my own recording. I even tried to find out which frequencies travel better through air, to see if maybe lower frequencies tended to dampen faster than higher sounds, but turns out, the opposite is true. Can anyone here give me something conclusive (or nearly so) that can explain this phenomenon?
I think resonance is something different.

Ya I think your right. Unfortunately, most sources I found on this topic use the word "resonate" to describe what is happening. This is a bad choice of words. I have finally found a source that correctly identifies the effect called "conduction". The skull and jaw bones are really good at conducting lower frequencies. This to me explains it all perfectly.

skullz17

Moukdaboss · 2015-03-30 14:04:47

B2 - E4

Zoey2070 · 2015-04-01 17:46:46

Old topic is old, but I'm an alto (as I was back in choir... four years ago). D5 - G3

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