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#1 Before February 2015

epicstonemason
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Fake moderators

I'm bored so I'm going to do something to make this forum a better place. I'm making myself a moderator; a fake moderator. I'm going to do everything a moderator would do (without actually doing it). I'll give out "warnings", "sticky" topics, and "lock" other topics. This isn't against the rules and I don't care if it makes people angry because everybody hates me here already. Feel free to join me as a fake moderator.

#2 Before February 2015

Different55
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Re: Fake moderators

It's called minimodding, and I think we're allowed to warn people for it.... just a sec lemme check...

here you go, sir.


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#3 Before February 2015

epicstonemason
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Re: Fake moderators

Here is a quote by Martin Luther King Jr (if you don't know who he was you can Google him)

An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.

That quote expresses how I feel about being a Fake Moderator. I'm not being a fake moderator so that I can be an annoying "mini-Moderator". I believe that if I get banned trying to make the forum a better place then the "mini-Moderator" law is unjust. I'm doing what my conscience tells me is right, and if you can accept that I'm being a Fake Moderator to help the forum, then maybe we'll work together to make the forum better that it ever would have been if we worked separately.

#4 Before February 2015

Panic
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Re: Fake moderators

epicstonemason wrote:

Here is a quote by Martin Luther King Jr (if you don't know who he was you can Google him)

An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.

That quote expresses how I feel about being a Fake Moderator. I'm not being a fake moderator so that I can be an annoying "mini-Moderator". I believe that if I get banned trying to make the forum a better place then the "mini-Moderator" law is unjust. I'm doing what my conscience tells me is right, and if you can accept that I'm being a Fake Moderator to help the forum, then maybe we'll work together to make the forum better that it ever would have been if we worked separately.

You may believe that you are making the forum a better place, but you really aren't. Fake moderating and mini-modding are the same thing, as already stated. These kinds of posts count as spam, as they in no way contribute to the thread. You currently do not hold any power over other forumers, therefore all of your posts that involve minimodding are just boxes of text that are relatively useless. Just report the post and get on with it.


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#5 Before February 2015

Rurigok
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Re: Fake moderators

Actually, by being a 'fake moderator', all you're doing is interfering with the actual moderator's jobs, as you can not issue warnings.   Therefore, your posts would have no purpose and be considered spam.   If you want to help, report the posts.   Otherwise, don't do anything.

#6 Before February 2015

Twipply
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Re: Fake moderators

Rurigok wrote:

Actually, by being a 'fake moderator', all you're doing is interfering with the actual moderator's jobs, as you can not issue warnings.   Therefore, your posts would have no purpose and be considered spam.   If you want to help, report the posts.   Otherwise, don't do anything.

How exactly would that be interfering?   His posts have purpose purely from him trying to help moderate, so them being spam isn't quite true either.   Although, being without purpose isn't the sole requirement for spam anyway, is it?

#7 Before February 2015

Cyclopsicle
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Re: Fake moderators

'nother great pwnage from twipply.

#8 Before February 2015

Twipply
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Re: Fake moderators

Cyclopsicle wrote:

'nother great pwnage from twipply.

I try my best.   (I'd so +rep you if I could.)

#9 Before February 2015

Calicara
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Re: Fake moderators

Dear Epicstoneman: If you were a fake moderator it would ultimately give the real moderators no purpose. So instead of going around pretending to be a moderator you should judt be a good community member. And not saying you do this in particular, but instead of calling topics dumb or useless you should just explain why you think it is useless and try to make it so people don't create lockable topics in the first place. So instead of mini-modding just be a good community member who helps others, but does not perform the jobs of the moderators. Because the moderators are moderators for a reason. And if everyone did their job for them they would be out of a job.

#10 Before February 2015

jakery
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Re: Fake moderators

If you start acting like a mod all you're going to do is spam topics, cause confusion, and create animosity. We have the report system for a reason. Have you read this yet?

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?id=9354

And no, it's not part of the written rules (which haven't been updated in forever, and desperately need revision), but mini-modding is highly frowned upon and is punishable with warnings if you get zealous enough about it. So if you want to stick around, don't play mod.

#11 Before February 2015

epicstonemason
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Re: Fake moderators

I'm not going to spam. I'm going to do what I believe is right.

#12 Before February 2015

supadorf24
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Re: Fake moderators

Which in this case is a form of spamming.

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#13 Before February 2015

epicstonemason
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Re: Fake moderators

I would say something about that, but I'm afraid this could turn out like "EE conservatives" (which was awesome and very funny).

#14 Before February 2015

Chimi
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Re: Fake moderators

epicstonemason wrote:

I would say something about that, but I'm afraid this could turn out like "EE conservatives" (which was awesome and very funny).

But hey, why say something about it when you can say something about saying something about it?

#15 Before February 2015

jakery
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Re: Fake moderators

epicstonemason wrote:

I'm not going to spam. I'm going to do what I believe is right.

If you are saying that you are planning to habitually disobey the mods' instructions, we can just skip over your next five warnings and permaban you now, saving everyone a bunch of bargain bin e-drama. Is this what you want?

#16 Before February 2015

Cyclopsicle
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Re: Fake moderators

So when are the rules gonna be updated?

Cause newcomers see those rules first and you can't really blame them if they only read some of the rules and not the other spread out topics //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/neutral

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#17 Before February 2015

epicstonemason
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Re: Fake moderators

I'm not going to spam so I won't be breaking the rules. I'm going to do the right thing. If you are not happy with me doing the right thing I could always do the wrong thing. If you ban me because I want to do the right thing you will make me a martyr.

#18 Before February 2015

Panic
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From: Virgo Supercluster
Joined: 2015-05-26
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Re: Fake moderators

You've already had 2 mods and an admin disagree with you. Drop the idea and leave it. You have horrible debating skills, so stop arguing with the exact same useless point rephrased.


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#19 Before February 2015

RPGMaster2000
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Re: Fake moderators

epicstonemason wrote:

I'm not going to spam so I won't be breaking the rules. I'm going to do the right thing. If you are not happy with me doing the right thing I could always do the wrong thing. If you ban me because I want to do the right thing you will make me a martyr.

Your idea of the right thing is the wrong thing. Think about that before you go and get yourself banned for such a silly idea.

#20 Before February 2015

jakery
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Re: Fake moderators

@epicstonemason Did you read the thread that I linked in an earler post? I've updated the part on why users shouldn't say "you broke the rules".

When non-mods start calling out broken rules, they can create confusion. Only mods officially decide if a rule has been broken. The reason mods exist is because forum rules are subjective by nature. Mods sometimes look at a reported post and think to themselves, "I can see how [reporter] thinks that [rule x] was broken, but this is actually an acceptable post.", and then they take no action. Please leave post evaluation to the mods.

There are many logical and rational reasons why the report system is preferred over mini-modding. I'm willing to hear out any counterarguments you have, but your proposed course of "civil disobedience" is hardly rational at this time.

#21 Before February 2015

Koto
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Joined: 2015-02-18
Posts: 3,269

Re: Fake moderators

epicstonemason wrote:

Here is a quote by Martin Luther King Jr (if you don't know who he was you can Google him)

An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.

That quote expresses how I feel about being a Fake Moderator. I'm not being a fake moderator so that I can be an annoying "mini-Moderator". I believe that if I get banned trying to make the forum a better place then the "mini-Moderator" law is unjust. I'm doing what my conscience tells me is right, and if you can accept that I'm being a Fake Moderator to help the forum, then maybe we'll work together to make the forum better that it ever would have been if we worked separately.

Here's the difference between you and Martin Luther King Jr:   He had people on his side.


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#22 Before February 2015

Pyromaniac
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Joined: 2015-02-15
Posts: 4,868

Re: Fake moderators

Ouch. This is an appropriate time to say, SALT

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#23 Before February 2015

Different55
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Joined: 2015-02-07
Posts: 16,575

Re: Fake moderators

nice one, king. That's the most painful burn I've seen in a while. *+rep*


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#24 Before February 2015

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Re: Fake moderators

That wasn't even a burn.
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#25 Before February 2015

Different55
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Posts: 16,575

Re: Fake moderators

It was totally a burn. He was fried alive with a side of bacon for breakfast.


"Sometimes failing a leap of faith is better than inching forward"
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