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#1 Before February 2015

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A Religious Christmas

I know a lot of you are not very religious, but for those of you who are, like me, you can discuss the real meaning here.

I said this in another topic:

It's not Christmas Love. Flip the "m".

Christ was love.

Discuss.

#2 Before February 2015

Cyral
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Yea it seems only a few of us (including me) actually celebrate christmas religiously


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#3 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

Christmas can hardly be called a religious holiday anymore.   Look at the way its commercialized.   Going through a month of shopping, baking, and getting gifts for other people really isn't a good way to celebrate Jesus' birthday is it?     (I'm not religious either)


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#4 Before February 2015

Maikel
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Since when was Christmas about Jesus?

I mean really: It's commercialized like crazy, and plus, it's not even on Jesus' birthday.

#5 Before February 2015

Bimps
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Actually, nobody knows when his birthday is

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#6 Before February 2015

treejoe4
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Its a day to celebrate his birth.

#7 Before February 2015

Echo!
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Bimps1002 wrote:

Actually, nobody knows when his birthday is

Wrong, He was born on the 3rd of September...

#8 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

Maikel wrote:

Since when was Christmas about Jesus?

I dunno, since it started being celebrated?


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#9 Before February 2015

Echo!
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Re: A Religious Christmas

JadElClemens wrote:
Maikel wrote:

Since when was Christmas about Jesus?

I dunno, since it started being celebrated?

Pretty much, If you did not know what the word "Christmas" meant, it means the "Mass of Christ" So if you did not know it was about Jesus, than that's a bit silly..

#10 Before February 2015

Chewy
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Ooh, this is going to be fun. Not sure is I should close it. Please keep it civil, guys.

xputnameherex wrote:

It's not Christmas Love. Flip the "m".

Christ was love.

Discuss.

Coincidences...

Maikel wrote:

Since when was Christmas about Jesus?

:facepalm: I don't know, since it was first celebrated maybe?

Echo! wrote:
Bimps1002 wrote:

Actually, nobody knows when his birthday is

Wrong, He was born on the 3rd of September...

Proof?

#11 Before February 2015

Echo!
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Chewy wrote:
Echo! wrote:
Bimps1002 wrote:

Actually, nobody knows when his birthday is

Wrong, He was born on the 3rd of September...

Proof?

Well if you put all of the proof together in the bible you can figure out when he was born... It's not big news..

#12 Before February 2015

xputnameherex
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Guys, I know that it is hugely commercialized, that is why I made this topic! So that us religous folks could discuss it!

Also, know one even knows what year Jesus was born, we only have a rough estimate that can spans almost 3 years.

@Chewy: I know it's a coincedence, that is why I did that.

So please, no more talking about how it is commercialized, we all know that, only talking about religousness. Talk about commercialization in another topic...

#13 Before February 2015

Echo!
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Re: A Religious Christmas

I'm not religious.. But I'm just pointing out some valid stuff...

#14 Before February 2015

xputnameherex
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Re: A Religious Christmas

Echo! wrote:

I'm not religious.. But I'm just pointing out some valid stuff...

It wasn't really valid though. No one knows when he was born exactly. The monk who made the calender kind of messed up a bit. But he was close enough.

Also, time for your (41st? 40th?) + rep.

#15 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

Even religious people don't celebrate Christmas for the sole purpose of Christ's birth. It's more like "the day of hedonism which also just so happens to be what we think was Christ's birth so we might as well celebrate that as well".

xputnameherex wrote:

It's not Christmas Love. Flip the "m".

Christ was love.

Discuss.

I'm sorry, but that was really corny. :]

Last edited by Tako (Dec 24 2011 3:55:18 pm)


Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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#16 Before February 2015

Twipply
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Re: A Religious Christmas

xputnameherex wrote:

you can discuss the real meaning here

I'm interested to know if you're suggesting that the religious meaning is the only 'real' one.

Echo! wrote:

...all of the proof together in the bible...

You keep using that word.   I do not think it means what you think it means.

xputnameherex wrote:

No one knows when he was born exactly.

Or even if he was born?

#17 Before February 2015

Koto
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Re: A Religious Christmas

^ I believe christ was real, but whether he was divine, or just a normal person that people followed is a totally different discussion.


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#18 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

Twipply wrote:
xputnameherex wrote:

No one knows when he was born exactly.

Or even if he was born?

If some archaeologist found a gravestone with someone's name on it, do you think they [whoever was on the gravestone] would exist? Same story with Jesus, except more like finding 1000 recordings of him.

Now, as far as him doing miracles and whatnot is beyond me, but I'm mostly positive he existed.


Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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#19 Before February 2015

dominator3000
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Re: A Religious Christmas

I am one of the few people that know what festivus is.

#20 Before February 2015

Twipply
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Re: A Religious Christmas

TakoMan02 wrote:

If some archaeologist found a gravestone with someone's name on it, do you think they [whoever was on the gravestone] would exist? Same story with Jesus, except more like finding 1000 recordings of him.

Now, as far as him doing miracles and whatnot is beyond me, but I'm mostly positive he existed.

Depends if that archaeologist was actually a priest who conveniently found it in the back of his church.   This is about christianity, right?   Their jesus liked to walk around and defy all sorts of physics, logic, and reason.   Did he exist?   Certainly not.   Did some ordinary guy called Jesus exist back then?   Sure, maybe.

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#21 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

Twipply wrote:
Echo! wrote:

...all of the proof together in the bible...

You keep using that word.   I do not think it means what you think it means.

I like rubber ducks too...

#22 Before February 2015

Koto
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Re: A Religious Christmas

dominator3000 wrote:

I am one of the few people that know what festivus is.

Thats what the restofus celebrate!


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#23 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

@Twipply: You just had to come into this topic, didn't you?

I say "real" because Christmas wasn't started as something for people to give gifts to each other, it was started to celebrate the birth of Jesus. So, although both are real, that is what I meant, and I think everyone understood that.

Jesus was born, but other religions argue if he was God, so yes, he was born.

I'm assuming you're an atheist here, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite. One thing you should know: Never insult someone's religion. My beliefs may differ from yours, but that doesn't mean I have to insult you. Someone's religion is someone's religion, if no one believed in it then it wouldn't exist anymore.

#24 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

xputnameherex wrote:

@Twipply: You just had to come into this topic, didn't you?

I say "real" because Christmas wasn't started as something for people to give gifts to each other, it was started to celebrate the birth of Jesus. So, although both are real, that is what I meant, and I think everyone understood that.

Giving gifts is pagan. Just so you know.
[So are Christmas Trees.]

Also, it's only insulting if you see it as such.


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#25 Before February 2015

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Re: A Religious Christmas

Zoey2070 wrote:
xputnameherex wrote:

@Twipply: You just had to come into this topic, didn't you?

I say "real" because Christmas wasn't started as something for people to give gifts to each other, it was started to celebrate the birth of Jesus. So, although both are real, that is what I meant, and I think everyone understood that.

Giving gifts is pagan. Just so you know.
[So are Christmas Trees.]

Also, it's only insulting if you see it as such.

Gift giving on Christmas comes from the giving of Myrrh, Frankincense, and gold to the baby Jesus.

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