2012 Presidential Election

Jaybm · Before February 2015

ipwner wrote:

...is this because you see this logic?

ipwner wrote:

But NO one could have taken the "heat"

These are the only points I got out of that illogical rambling post. No and no. I made a post with strong points, and you responded with un-true nonsense. If you give me something to work with that isn't immature nonsense, then I will gladly respond. Try again.

And I don't care if I "loose the argument" in your 100% biased agenda, that means less than nothing to me.

iPwner · Before February 2015

Nope, that wasn't illogical rambling. I'm not posting anything more if you are too lazy/stupid to take in any of it :o)
This just further proves your arrogance, saying that you made a post with strong points, and I responded with un-true nonsense, even though that is far from the truth. ^.^ Once again, out of politeness, I am not going to explicitly say your posts were complete nonsense, as you said. So I'm not giving you anymore, you ignorant arrogant ;p i win, i0i0i0i0i0i0i0i0i

Also, you just said "no" and "no"...? That doesn't tell me anything. This way I can assume that you have no comeback, and you lose i win lalelulale! Hold tight, honey bunthz!!!!!!!!

So why don't you try again and take some more notes out my essay Mr. Bm. The only reason you said it was "illogical rambling" was because your mind couldn't process the information, or you didn't read it at all !! Good day Jaybind the Gray-mind of Unseeing! ^,0 lel

Let me end this post with some real illogical rambling (but imo it is very fitting ;3)

~,~^,^=3=DC==P:3~iPwnedxXxXxX^ . ^ CREAMED into the ice l0lz0r

Last edited by ipwner (Nov 8 2012 4:47:25 pm)

krubby · Before February 2015

GKAbyss wrote:

I think the government should primarily be concerned with the environment, rather than topics like the economy and illegal immigration.

As important as conservation is, I think it's more important that we make sure that citizens are doing well first. Illegal immigration can wait though.

iPwner · Before February 2015

I think they're all quite important. ._.

Shift · Before February 2015

Jaybm wrote:

Considering the circumstances? The economy has declined since he took office. Yes, the country was falling. Point is: If Obama couldn't take the heat, he should of never ran for office.

Americans like you are why America is largely ridiculed. Do you understand the concept of this little thing called a "rate"? The economy was worsening at an alarming rate. Although Obama didn't end the decline entirely, he did lessen the decline to an extent. Somebody already posted proof of this.

If you honestly expected the economy to reverse itself in four short years, then you're seriously disturbed. Even if the President and Congress could get along in harmony, which they never will, it would be quite a feat to fix it so quickly.

Jaybm · Before February 2015

Shift wrote:

Jaybm wrote:
Considering the circumstances? The economy has declined since he took office. Yes, the country was falling. Point is: If Obama couldn't take the heat, he should of never ran for office.
Americans like you are why America is largely ridiculed. Do you understand the concept of this little thing called a "rate"? The economy was worsening at an alarming rate. Although Obama didn't end the decline entirely, he did lessen the decline to an extent. Somebody already posted proof of this.
If you honestly expected the economy to reverse itself in four short years, then you're seriously disturbed. Even if the President and Congress could get along in harmony, which they never will, it would be quite a feat to fix it so quickly.

Where do you get this stuff from? I never stuck Obama with a time limit. I never said that his stuff will never work, or drawing any conclusions about him at all yet. I'm going to wait to see if his policies ever start working. I was dismissing the excuses by Ipwner, no need for you to take things out of context and draw drastic conclusions from them.

You have a strong argument, but i'm not taking the other side.

Last edited by Jaybm (Nov 8 2012 4:55:58 pm)

Tako · Before February 2015

@Jaybm: Well let's look at it this way... which economic policies do you think work?

Also I don't want any talking about talking. Either you talk about the election or you don't, I don't need this thread seasoned with personal attacks and other rude remarks.

Jaybm · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

@Jaybm: Well let's look at it this way... which economic policies do you think work?

At this point, I can't give you a solid answer on what would actually "work". Because between congress and senate, no democratic or republican policies will make it through. I think policies that would please both parties might be our the only hope right now for change, if there even is any like that.

iPwner · Before February 2015

EDIT: i'm changing this post a little, to avoid some flaming ;P

Jaybm, what takoman asked you is exactly what i asked in my big post. I guess I might as well break it down into bite-sized bits for you - bee arr bee!

Last edited by ipwner (Nov 8 2012 5:26:23 pm)

Different55 · Before February 2015

ipwner wrote:

! !
I'm so glad Obama was re-elected!!!
=0)
yippeedoo!
^.^
hunny bunny jay-bee-ummy !

Jeez, you sound so childish.

What exactly are you going to do if things go bad? What if Obama screws stuff up? I'm not saying he will, but WHAT IF. What if things don't improve? What if they get completely worse? You're not giving any facts with that post, as far as I can tell, you're blindly putting your trust in a person. Why are you doing that?

iPwner · Before February 2015

@Different55, You can scroll back through the posts if you want to see my reasons, Different55. I think I posted at least 2 or 3 times with logic. ;3 I posted all of that stuff on page 5 - check out page 5 for logic, hon'!

Also I do these "childish" things so i can entertain myself while typing these rather enduring paragraphs! =*D}~ AND it may potentially humor others ;p!! Furthermore, I am a bit of a snop when I'm online ;-]. It humors myself ;P. If I wasn't humored/entertained, there wouldn't really be any reason to play EE or go on the EE forums, no? I think that covers up my "childish" smileys and phrases.

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@Jaybm, here is the last speech I made, bite-size for your mind's maximum comprehension!

*NOTE: I might have under-summarized some of the points, revert back to the original 2nd essay for more accurate details!

Bite-Sized Speech to Republicans Like Jaybm #2!

~You cannot expect ANYONE to magically make millions of jobs out of thin air-- do you have any better plans than obama had?

~I am sure you are a republican because your parents are republicans as well-- but at least I took the time to understand why¹

~You never responded to two of the points I had made-- is that because you didn't have a comeback?

~The economy only got worse during the first couple of years due to the deficit George Bush started-- it has been improving ever since one or two years ago-- not only recovery-from-the-deficit-wise, but also policy-wise! (Such as Usama Bin Laden dead, Obamacare, upcoming legalization of illegal immigration, etc.)

¹I have watched plenty of debates and looked up data, so I think I have quite enough logic.

Last edited by ipwner (Nov 8 2012 5:31:01 pm)

Different55 · Before February 2015

ipwner wrote:

hon'!

Don't call me "hon'".

You say:

Also I do these "childish" things so i can entertain myself while typing these rather enduring paragraphs!

But then you do this:

ipwner wrote:

EDIT: i'm changing this post a little, to avoid some flaming ;P
Jaybm, what takoman asked you is exactly what i asked in my big post. I guess I might as well break it down into bite-sized bits for you - bee arr bee!

at the END of a very short post.

But whatever, you never responded to the main part of my post earlier:

What exactly are you going to do if things go bad? What if Obama screws stuff up? I'm not saying he will, but WHAT IF. What if things don't improve? What if they get completely worse?

You said all this stuff about WOOHOO LOL 4 MOAR YEARS OF IMPROVEMENT WOOT, but what if that improvement never happens. Still, Obama drove up the debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8. It passed that point somewhere toward the beginning of year 3 under Obama. WHAT UP WITH THAT.

AzurePudding · Before February 2015

Number(1)KirbyFan10 wrote:

*quintuple votes for Romney*
Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.

You remind me of Romney. Trying to scare some votes in. pfft. WEAK!

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I voted Obama.

Romney's against gays. Voting for Romney is a vote for inequality, which is the opposite of what America is suppose to be about.

Romney's a pancake. He flip-flops all the time. I have no idea what he stands on because he changes what he says to appeal with the audience he's dealing with. The only thing I know where he stands on is he's against gay marriage, which is one thing he should change his mind on. Ironic.

His lies are desperate. He lied 26 or 27 times during the first debate, the one he "won" apparently.

He interupts a lot. Not too important, but it looks bad if you want to become president. Bah-bah-bah-buh let me say one more thing--- No, screw you. A good leader listens to who he leads, he listens for input, takes ideas, and doesn't ignore or cut people off. He did this a lot in the second debate I believe. He came off as a bully.

So many reasons not to vote for Romney. Obama may not be the best president, but there is no such thing as a perfect president. He started with a lot on his plate, such as two wars, a falling economy, etc. Republicans expect him to finish everything Bush handed off to him in 4 years. He needs another 4 years to complete. This time, he won't spend the last year on campaigns for re-election, so he can spend more time on what's important.

Lots of people voted for Romney just because he's mormon. yes, there are people who voted for Obama for being black, but also those who don't because he is black. These people are stupid.

When Bush left office, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month

With Obama now, we're gaining around 150,000 jobs a month.

Our unemployment went down, but lately, went back up, because people are more confident in finding a job, so they are entering the workforce, which now qualifies them for unemployment.

Osama Bin Laden is dead. Romney said he would have waited on that, and would have asked permission before taking out this terrorist leader.

McCain would not have taken us out of war. Romney would have us going into Iran if he had won.

Anyone who voted for Romney, is incredibly un-informed. Facts win over these twisted lies that republicans tell each other to make Obama look bad.

Congress has said no to what Obama wants to do, even though what he suggests is what they were for years before. They say no just because he's a democrat, or just because he's Obama. Congress is incredibly childish. People need to stop voting based by name, and vote based on facts.

I'll finish off with: If pro is the opposite of con, then is progress the opposite of congress?

ThuggishPrune · Before February 2015

Edit: Screw it, I'm just going to watch you guys squabble on every little thing and laugh.

Last edited by ThuggishPrune (Nov 8 2012 8:23:08 pm)

Different55 · Before February 2015

AzurePudding wrote:

Number(1)KirbyFan10 wrote:
*quintuple votes for Romney*
Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.
You remind me of Romney. Trying to scare some votes in. pfft. WEAK! When did Romney try to scare some votes in?
Romney's against gays. Voting for Romney is a vote for inequality, which is the opposite of what America is suppose to be about. America is also a God-fearing nation supposedly, and God said no.
He interupts a lot. Care to link a video and some times?
So many reasons not to vote for Romney. Obama may not be the best president, but there is no such thing as a perfect president. He started with a lot on his plate, such as two wars, a falling economy, etc. Republicans expect him to finish everything Bush handed off to him in 4 years. He needs another 4 years to complete. This time, he won't spend the last year on campaigns for re-election, so he can spend more time on what's important. Sure, it was bad when he came in, but he put on more debt in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. I don't think anybody could have fixed it, but what happened was not necessary.
Lots of people voted for Romney just because he's mormon. yes, there are people who voted for Obama for being black, but also those who don't because he is black. These people are stupid. There are more people who don't vote for Romney because he's LDS and LDS members are all crazy polygamist pedophile cultists (FYI, they aren't. There's not a single LDS poly-pedo-cultist) than there are people who don't vote for Obama because he's black. But yeah, I agree with you that they're stupid.
When Bush left office, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month[citation needed]
With Obama now, we're gaining around 150,000 jobs a month.[citation needed]
Our unemployment went down, but lately, went back up, because people are more confident in finding a job, so they are entering the workforce, which now qualifies them for unemployment.[citation needed]
McCain would not have taken us out of war. Romney would have us going into Iran if he had won.[citation needed]

Tako · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

Still, Obama drove up the debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8. It passed that point somewhere toward the beginning of year 3 under Obama. WHAT UP WITH THAT.

Okay, this is the second time I've heard the separate Bush administrations referred to as one. George H W Bush and George W Bush are two different people... what's up with referring to them as a team? Yeah they're related, but they didn't work together on anything.

Regardless, it's important to understand what exactly "Bush" did. To start, his tax cuts weren't exclusive to his term.

We still pay for it, eleven years after the asinine proposal was put into effect. Eleven years ago it was responsible for 40% of our debt, and in 2011 it was responsible for 59%. It's more now. The longer his tax cuts are in effect, the more debt we rake in.

So is it right to blame Obama for this, the man who has been desperately working with a Republican Congress to remove it over the last four years? Or should we blame the man who created them?

http://www.ameriburn.org/verification_v … enters.php

supadorf24 · Before February 2015

This is the saddest thread I have ever had the misfortune of reading. It's 90% kids regurgitating their parents' opinions or giving into the popular Obama-ruined-the-(already crumbling)-economy mindset. Young kids shouldn't talk politics. Before you post again, consider the following:

What actions did Obama take or fail to take that hurt the economy?

What would have been the correct course of action?

Don't just say GOBAMA or NOBAMA. Why are you for or against a particular candidate?

CITATIONS

lol.

krubby · Before February 2015

Different55: America is also a God-fearing nation supposedly, and God said no.

America is not allowed to have a national religion, so no law can be made just because a single religion says no.

Different55 · Before February 2015

@Krubby it's all the religions that believe in the bible.

@Tako
I was referring to George W Bush.

D-rock2308 · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

@Krubby it's all the religions that believe in the bible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re … traditions

Twipply · Before February 2015

Obama so that Romney doesn't win. Ideally, third party.

D-rock2308 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re … traditions

I wonder how many of those would swear they're the ones that've got it right.

D-rock2308 · Before February 2015

Twipply wrote:

I wonder how many of those would swear they're the ones that've got it right.

A lot of them are just branches off large religions like Christianity and Islam, and I think a few are considered "myth" on the list, but still, that is an interesting thought.

Tako · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

@Tako
I was referring to George W Bush.

That's who I was referencing to too.

(Although I'm an idiot and forgot he served two terms. Ignore the first paragraph.)

Jeffburtonfan · Before February 2015

Video contains inappropriate language.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhep2QOzM2s[/youtube]

The reason Obama won.

supadorf24 · Before February 2015

Jeffburtonfan wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhep2QOzM2s[/youtube]
The reason Obama won.

Surely a small group of protestors represents the Obama-supporting demographic as a whole.

Don't be stupid.

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